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Originally posted by: Oldschooljedi
Ok, now it works. I just finished another encoding.

Did you download your needed .dll's here:

http://avisynth.org.ru/

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Whew! Great! How does it look compared to the original?

avisynth.org.ru is where I got all my DePan stuff.

So I've been trying different techniques and settings to get the back and forth wobble out when R2 rocks back and forth (like around frames 26950-27000). Everying I do destroys the improvements in stabilization that I've made in the other parts of the film though. So I think I'm going to have to identify all the problem scenes and switch back to the unstabilized version for those clips. I've tried MVDePan, DePanEstimate, and playing around with all the variables in those as well as my script. Any other ideas?

-G
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The picture is much, much better than the original. This is great!

I have no idea to make the picture better and have no suggestion for the "R2-wobble".

Until Moth3r and Arnie.d discussed some avisynth-scripts in the "GOUT-antialiasing"-treat I even did not know how to use avisynth-plugins and always used one-klick-tools for encoding (shame on me )

At the moment I'm learning how powerful avisynth-filtering can be...
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"Windows Media Player cannot play this file."
Don't ask me why? I'm not a mind reader. If the difference is really noticable as people say it is, I'm wondering do you think a screenshot comparison would show anything?

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Oh my god, somebody is USING Windows Media Player ? And wondering why some non-MS formats don't work ?
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I've deleted the GOUT DVD files off my hard drive, and I'm too lazy to rip the DVD again to try out the scripts. Anyone want to post some screenshots? (Ideally the same frames as shown HERE so I can compare with my disc.)

I know still shots won't demonstrate the stabilization part of the script, but I'm interested to see if FFT3DFilter softens the image at all and how the levels/saturation tweaks compare.

One day I'll compare the PAL laserdiscs again. I'm sure that the weave was not as pronounced as the DC source.

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I'll post some screen shots soon. These threads are much more fun with pretty pictures!

I've been working on the script some more. I've decided to back off the image stabilization a bit to make sure that there is no added wobble. On static sceens the stabilization is about half way between the original and my previous script, but now there is absolutely no problem with close up objects wobbling back and forth. I just didn't want to search for every scene that was a problem and hope that I cought them all. Don't worry, the stability is still much better than the original.

I've also noticed some ringing in certain scenes that is helped by turning on the deringing filter on mpeg2source. I'll post a pic of that too.

I've decided to do the do the fft3dfilter after the lanczos4resize so that it doesn't take as long. I had to re-tune the parameters, but I don't see any difference and it seems to run quicker now.

I'll update the posted script tonight.

Moth3r - fft3dfilter is pretty good. It also has some sharpening ability that I use to negate the effects of the eeid2. And as far as the saturation goes, when I look at your comparison pics, I think the original is a bit undersaturated, and I think yours is bit oversaturated, so I chose a value half way inbetween. This is all very subjective though, so my script only reflects how I want the picture to look.

Oldschooljedi - I didn't start using Avisynth until Arnie.d and Moth3r did the anti-aliasing either. It's been fun learning a new tool, but I'm still learning, so I don't think my script will ever be "finished". It might be interesting to start a thread devoted to the "script" and people can post suggestions to make it better.

-G
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All right, what is so bad about windows media player? The quality is better than quicktime or real. I have divx player and probably should try that but I only opened the file, didn't want to save it and it opened in wmp by default. It's not that important to me either, if it was I would have already made a couple of long posts asking a ton of questions by now.

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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
All right, what is so bad about windows media player? The quality is better than quicktime or real. I have divx player and probably should try that but I only opened the file, didn't want to save it and it opened in wmp by default. It's not that important to me either, if it was I would have already made a couple of long posts asking a ton of questions by now.


I use WMP a LOT (old .exe version)! It's quick and dirty! Don't know why the clip won't play for you though.

-G
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Screencaps through the script!

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/3postabilized.jpg

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/3po2stabilized.jpg

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/rebelstabilized.jpg

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/leiavaderstabilized.jpg

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/greedostabilized.jpg

coming soon: matte removal, DeSpot and deringing camparison pics.

-G
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Comparison shots! you might have to turn up the brightness for this one. Guess which is the original.

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/tieoriginal.jpg

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/tiestabilized.jpg


Now for the money shot. Check out the dirt spot on the left helmet, and the ringing on the right helmet:


http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/elevatororiginal.jpg

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/elevatorstabilize.jpg

-G
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So far, that's looking great!

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Moth3r,

I'm curious to hear your comments on the screencaps and comparisons to yours.

-G
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Wow. So some of the damage can be undone.

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Perhaps I'm just missing it, but is there another thread maybe that has the actual full script in it?
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I'm wondering what the X0 project will do with the second screen. "R2D2 where are you?" Because I've never liked the brightness/contrast in this shot, it seems like the telecine did not capture the dark greys well. The other shot I really wonder how it should[i/] look is right after the binary sunset when C3PO has his arms up saying "Please don't deactivate me."

What is the ringing? Is that like edge enhancement and was it on the laserdiscs. As for the dirt removal, are you doing spot correction?

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OK, the screenshots convinced me ! I WILL do a version 6 of my "project" and share it with you, guys. Expect something big in a few weeks
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Originally posted by: g-force
Moth3r,

I'm curious to hear your comments on the screencaps and comparisons to yours.

-G
The lower black level is good, but I think you've taken the contrast down too far with it. I prefer the corridor walls to look white rather than light grey.

The colour saturation boost is good, but I think the face of the rebel trooper looks too pink. As you know, I tweaked the hue slightly towards the yellow in my version.

I think your settings for fft3dfilter are too strong; the reduced grain makes the picture look a little too soft.

Bear in mind this is all subjective, comments are based on my personal opinion (and might be affected by differences in display calibration and so on...)

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To add to my previous post, here are some screenshots to illustrate my comments about the contrast and the filtering:

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9844/sample1oq5.png
GOUT

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6308/sample2vw7.png
Moth3r

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6640/sample3vu8.png
g-force

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Originally posted by: boba feta
Wow. So some of the damage can be undone.

I'm not so sure that tey damaged the film during de-interlacing (although if it wasn't interlaced in the first place it'd be a lot better) but they only did half a job. From my understanding, you can de-interlace slowly and with high quality, or quickly and do post processing (like EEDI2) for decent results.

Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
What is the ringing? Is that like edge enhancement and was it on the laserdiscs. As for the dirt removal, are you doing spot correction?

Notice around the top of the right helmet in the elevator pic there is a white line above the helmet that follows the contour of the helmet. That's what I'm referring to as ringing. I am doing some very limited spot removal (so fast moving stars don't get lost).

Originally posted by: pittrek
Expect something big in a few weeks


Can't wait! any hints?

Originally posted by: Moth3r
I think the face of the rebel trooper looks too pink. As you know, I tweaked the hue slightly towards the yellow in my version.

I think your settings for fft3dfilter are too strong; the reduced grain makes the picture look a little too soft.

Bear in mind this is all subjective...


Agreed. Mine looks too pink. I think yours is a little too orange though. Somewhere inbetween maybe?
Agreed. The zoomed in screencaps convinced me. I'm going to back that off a bit.
It is subjective, that's why I need more opinions other than just mine. Or at least you've convinced me of what I already suspected!

BTW, I found a sizing error in the script. I will update now.

-G
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g-force : I'm working on a restoration of all 6 movies to their theatrical versions, with bonus discs of course, most of it is done
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Originally posted by: pittrek
g-force : I'm working on a restoration of all 6 movies to their theatrical versions, with bonus discs of course, most of it is done


Yeah, sorry, I remembered you said that in another thread after I posted last.

Are you thinking of using some of the anti-aliasing that Arnie.d and Moth3r have done and my image stabilization for your GOUT sources?

I'll be looking forward to seeing your work!

-G
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Originally posted by: g-force
Originally posted by: pittrek
g-force : I'm working on a restoration of all 6 movies to their theatrical versions, with bonus discs of course, most of it is done


Yeah, sorry, I remembered you said that in another thread after I posted last.

Are you thinking of using some of the anti-aliasing that Arnie.d and Moth3r have done and my image stabilization for your GOUT sources?

I'll be looking forward to seeing your work!

-G


Yes, I abandoned the project a couple of month ago because of total lack of free time, but I definitely have to return to it ASAP and finish it.
My last version of SW uses as video a combination of color-corrected 2004 DVD and GOUT resized to anamorphic, and it has 5 audio tracks containing all mixes. I'm still not satisfied with it because all of the GOUT footage was shaky and I used an incorrect font to Greedo's subtitles (your font looks MUCH better).
When I saw your screenshots and video, I decided to rework all the GOUT footage to be less shaky and also the better font
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Moth3r,

I think I put too much JPEG compression on the pics that I posted (my bad). Here is what that same frame looks like if I zoom the script output directly.

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/3pozoom.jpg
Actual G-force

I have adjusted the hue and gamma (thanks Moth3r) in the script also and updated the posted script.

I'll update the posted pics soon.

-G
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So which script is the actual one ?