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Yet another proof for an unbeatable coolness of Mr Darth V.

The coming-and-going villiains make me think of a comic book series: the Caped Crusader (or whatever) has to have new baddies to beat up each next episode, right?
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But even the Caped Crusader has perpetual baddies.

The Joker never dies, man.
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Except in The Dark Knight Returns and Batman (1989).

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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"There's nothing wrong with you Joker I can't fix with my hands."
And I dance. And I sing.
And I'm a monkey, in a long line of kings.
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Yet another proof for an unbeatable coolness of Mr Darth V.


You are absolutly right! Darth Vader is clearly the greatest movie villian of all time


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wait a minute people... the Star Wars Saga is ALL about Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader... if course he will be perpetual!!!!!
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Except in The Dark Knight Returns and Batman (1989).

He's died twice? That's quite an accomplishment.

And I agree with everyone else here... there is no badder villain than our Dark Lord, and I don't mean Sauron.
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sauron cant compare with DV, i apologize to all you LOTR fans (im one too...) but sauron is only a threat whereas DV backs his threats up with more than gruesome words.
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DV is a badass.

What's such a shame is that Darth Maul had so much potential. He was shaping up to be such a kickass baddie. Not quite Vader scale, but still and all the same. I just wish they didn't kill him off so quickly. He had a memorable (saying the least) image, great presence, and just didn't care about anything that got in his way. The makings of a great baddie. Damn you Lucas.
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DM wasnt a mastermind, thats the problem... he was a "thug" (if you get my meaning)...
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As was Joe Pesci in Goodfellas, but that made him no less of a badguy in my book.
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true, but DV has brains and such...
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Yes, but he was still a thug for the Emperor. Either way though, I think given more time, DM (not Depeche Mode) could've really shined as a baddie.
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i agree... but due to the short amount of screentime he got in ep, he is not the fully incarnated baddy that DV is... unfortunately.
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That was why I said initially that he had such potential to be a great baddie. Never was, but could've been.
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thats why i think ep 1 beats ep 2 better baddies and it tells a good story
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I just don't like the PT enough to consider any of them as interesting villains. Although I admit that DM had an intriguing, if non-Star Wars look.

Actually a friend of mine is convincing me finally watch TPM and AOTC again, but in a foreign language (Cantonese). He says it's far more entertaining this way. I suppose you get to imagine how good the story could be yourself this way, and now I'm curious what voice DM might have in this version.
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Ok now it is on.

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Originally posted by: Warbler

Ok first off Your right when you say that Lucas can make Stars Ways his way. However that does not mean I have to like it. Yes Star Wars is not mine but if it weren't for me and the rest of the fans there would be no Star Wars or least no sequels. The fans bought the tickets, toys, videos, books, clothes and other merchandise that made him his millions. And yea of course there were no Star Wars fan before Star Wars came I was really refering to movie fans in general. Stars Wars was made to entertain the viewer, The PT was made for Lucas to fullfill his dream.


OK NO you got it backward. HOW the FUCKING HELL can he make a movie for the 'fans' if there are no fans. TELL ME THAT. MOTHER FUCKER!!! were there any SW fans b4 1977 NO,. second thing fro the sequels he already had a vision, so he wasnt makeing them fro the fans. he has also tald us that his vision was not completed in the OT. That is why he is making the unltimate edition.

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As for why I think epIII is going to suck, as I said before lots of Jar,Jar Binks(stinks), bad acting, flat characters. poor plots, lots of CGI crap, a horrible script. Why do I believe the epIII will contain these things? Simply because ep 1 and 2 did and I believe that he will make epIII in the same style. Please note I am not the only one to criticize ep 1 and 2. Put yourselve in my shoes. If you thought that ep 1 and 2 sucked and could'nt hold a match much less a candle to the Ot, and you believed that epIII was going to be made in the same style as ep 1 and 2 would you or would not conclude that epIII will suck as well?


like i said before, how the hell can you say that a movie will have bad acting a year and a half b4 it comes out. we already know that is has a great cast ( samuel Jackson (i dislike him but he is stil a good actor)the guys who plays obi wan and dooku are all brillent actors). next point EVERY movie nowadays has CGI in it, so are you saying that all movies are bad? Besides EP3 is a Scifi movie it has epic battles, spaceships, etc. If your so smart how the hell would you make scenes like this without using CGI footage. you would probable use cardboard models hangin a string right. that is what i thought. you say the movie will have a bad scprit. have you read it? you said that the movie will have poor plots. again have you read the script. i dont care of you see the movie and then make these points. but declaring them a year and a half b4 a movie permier is just bull shit.

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I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it and if I am I'll be glad to eat crow. If you liked ep 1 and 2 you will probably love ep3. Just understand that not everybody did and therefor they will probably not like ep3 as well.


that is good.

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You say Lucas is not a God, I agree so tell me why you worship him like he is a god and why do you act like he can do no wrong and get angry at those who dare question his "great vision"?


I worship him like a fucking god eh. WTF are you on, cus you mus be on some pretty strong shit to come up with that one. did i ever say he can do no wrong, presonally i thought ep1 was poor but ep2 was a much better effort and i would rank it up there iwth the OT. Last thing, i dont treat him like a god i treat him like a person that is why i am not bullshiting his movie a year and half b4 it comes out.

p.s. your bulshit about ep3 being bad cus in your opinion ep1 and 2 were bad it bull shit too. dont fro get that the same guy yes GL also made the OT, and if he can do a great job on that it shows that he is capable. on some idoit as you make him out to be.

p.s.s. and if you ever fuckin say that i worship GL like a god again you, see me whe i really get pissed off.
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Why develope a character that stinks? I would have had him on the ship blows up at the begining of the movie. End him once and for all!


just shut the fuck up ok man, to have remade him is a good idea.


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I say forget about the Midichlorians it was bad Idea to begin with. They were never in the OT and should never have been in the PT


that is one of the stupidest reasons for droping medichorians i have ever heard. so according to your phylosophy. no mace they never talked about him in the OT, no yoda living on courasant cus he was on dagobath in the OT. just follow the OT to a fucking KEY. if GL did that then the movie would truely be bad.


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Sorry I can't forget about the OT. And thats the real problem with PT in that it doesn't feel like a sequel to the OT. It seems like Lucas is changing the OT to make it fit with the PT. When what he should do is make the PT fit with the OT.


so that explains everything. you dont like the PT cus you dont understand that the PT happed b4 the OT, you just cant comprehend that can you.
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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
I'm sure he'll be a fun character, my only concern is that he distracts from the overall story, I'd rather some better developed villians then a new one in each movie that dies.


i agree with you rebel, too many villians is not a good thing.
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
sauron cant compare with DV, i apologize to all you LOTR fans (im one too...) but sauron is only a threat whereas DV backs his threats up with more than gruesome words.


you know how much of a lotr guys i am motti and i agree with you.

sorry of all the post i just had to get those in.
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good to hear that shimmy.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
Ok now it is on.

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Originally posted by: Warbler

Ok first off Your right when you say that Lucas can make Stars Ways his way. However that does not mean I have to like it. Yes Star Wars is not mine but if it weren't for me and the rest of the fans there would be no Star Wars or least no sequels. The fans bought the tickets, toys, videos, books, clothes and other merchandise that made him his millions. And yea of course there were no Star Wars fan before Star Wars came I was really refering to movie fans in general. Stars Wars was made to entertain the viewer, The PT was made for Lucas to fullfill his dream.


OK NO you got it backward. HOW the FUCKING HELL can he make a movie for the 'fans' if there are no fans. TELL ME THAT. MOTHER FUCKER!!! were there any SW fans b4 1977 NO,. second thing fro the sequels he already had a vision, so he wasnt makeing them fro the fans. he has also tald us that his vision was not completed in the OT. That is why he is making the unltimate edition.

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As for why I think epIII is going to suck, as I said before lots of Jar,Jar Binks(stinks), bad acting, flat characters. poor plots, lots of CGI crap, a horrible script. Why do I believe the epIII will contain these things? Simply because ep 1 and 2 did and I believe that he will make epIII in the same style. Please note I am not the only one to criticize ep 1 and 2. Put yourselve in my shoes. If you thought that ep 1 and 2 sucked and could'nt hold a match much less a candle to the Ot, and you believed that epIII was going to be made in the same style as ep 1 and 2 would you or would not conclude that epIII will suck as well?


like i said before, how the hell can you say that a movie will have bad acting a year and a half b4 it comes out. we already know that is has a great cast ( samuel Jackson (i dislike him but he is stil a good actor)the guys who plays obi wan and dooku are all brillent actors). next point EVERY movie nowadays has CGI in it, so are you saying that all movies are bad? Besides EP3 is a Scifi movie it has epic battles, spaceships, etc. If your so smart how the hell would you make scenes like this without using CGI footage. you would probable use cardboard models hangin a string right. that is what i thought. you say the movie will have a bad scprit. have you read it? you said that the movie will have poor plots. again have you read the script. i dont care of you see the movie and then make these points. but declaring them a year and a half b4 a movie permier is just bull shit.

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I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it and if I am I'll be glad to eat crow. If you liked ep 1 and 2 you will probably love ep3. Just understand that not everybody did and therefor they will probably not like ep3 as well.


that is good.

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You say Lucas is not a God, I agree so tell me why you worship him like he is a god and why do you act like he can do no wrong and get angry at those who dare question his "great vision"?


I worship him like a fucking god eh. WTF are you on, cus you mus be on some pretty strong shit to come up with that one. did i ever say he can do no wrong, presonally i thought ep1 was poor but ep2 was a much better effort and i would rank it up there iwth the OT. Last thing, i dont treat him like a god i treat him like a person that is why i am not bullshiting his movie a year and half b4 it comes out.

p.s. your bulshit about ep3 being bad cus in your opinion ep1 and 2 were bad it bull shit too. dont fro get that the same guy yes GL also made the OT, and if he can do a great job on that it shows that he is capable. on some idoit as you make him out to be.

p.s.s. and if you ever fuckin say that i worship GL like a god again you, see me whe i really get pissed off.


Ok, I could respond to you, I could take your arguments apart at the seems. But I'm not going respond to somone who me a Motherbleeper. I think you need to do some growing up. I believe I deserve an apology.





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Lets see you take apart fucker. and anit geting now apology out of me mother fucker. o wait I shouldnt swear some body may read this MotherBEEP.
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"What is it?" "Courtesy. It is the vocabulary of a polite person. Not as clumsy or random as insults. An elegant form of communication - from a more... civilized age."

*puts down a fire extinguisher next to Warbler and Shimraa*