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Now you're just trying to start shit...

What am I taunting you to do?

Actually....you are the troll. I'm the troll slayer. You'll be number three.....
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Have fun stormin the castle.
Your focus determines your reality.
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Sorry to interject, I'm gonna try and be civil to both of you. Obviously you guys are both pretty passionate about your beliefs in Star Wars. I don't mean to come to one persons' aid over the other but from every post I've seen of Go-Mer's I've never once thought of him as a "Troll". What do you define as a troll? Would it be because he has differing views from yours? Is it because he feels that George shouldn't release a better version of the OOT on DVD? Has he acted arrogantly? Or is it simply because he sees merit with the Prequels and voices his opinion so? I've seen him post here, give his beliefs but when told he was coming on too strong backed off and realized that "hey, perhaps I'll cool it abit". The guy obviously understands when he's pushing buttons.....so I say again, is he so frowned upon because he offers an alternative point of view? I thought among other things, in the appropriate threads wouldn't enlightened conversations like that be welcomed? I can't say that I've seen everything Go-Mer has posted and maybe he has acted inappropriately but from what I've seen this isn't the case.

The reason I am defending him here is because basically nobody else will. I mean it does send off some red flags with the amount of people that are pissed off at him that could mean that he comes off a little arrogant, but surely defending or even offering alternative responses to a thread topic should not result in such chastisation should it? I know I'm not a regular here, I've been coming for the last little while to read up on discussions and I've noticed one thing that has happened, that has changed since I came. When I came here I told them which Star Wars I preferred and I was still welcomed regardless. Now I see personal attacks thrown Go-Mer's way when he hasn't really warranted such behaviour. On the flipside though maybe I haven't seen you in full anti-OOT swing and maybe you should cool it Go-Mer. I don't know for sure. I understand that we're all pretty passionate and we all just rub each other the wrong way sometimes. No need to bring it down a level to petty attacks though.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Have fun stormin the castle.


It usually is pretty fun....but you're the most boring troll I've ever seen.
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Just by the way, I am for Lucas releasing a better quality version of the O-OT. To me that would allow the most people to be able to enjoy Star Wars the way they want to enjoy it.

I have no issue with people who don't like the new stuff, I just don't understand the depth of some people's anger over these movies.
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I'm officially bored with my own thread.

You're awesome, Gomer...you go and spread the Lucas love, brother.
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Originally posted by: garethxxgod
Sorry to interject, I'm gonna try and be civil to both of you. Obviously you guys are both pretty passionate about your beliefs in Star Wars. I don't mean to come to one persons' aid over the other but from every post I've seen of Go-Mer's I've never once thought of him as a "Troll". What do you define as a troll? Would it be because he has differing views from yours? Is it because he feels that George shouldn't release a better version of the OOT on DVD? Has he acted arrogantly? Or is it simply because he sees merit with the Prequels and voices his opinion so? I've seen him post here, give his beliefs but when told he was coming on too strong backed off and realized that "hey, perhaps I'll cool it abit". The guy obviously understands when he's pushing buttons.....so I say again, is he so frowned upon because he offers an alternative point of view? I thought among other things, in the appropriate threads wouldn't enlightened conversations like that be welcomed? I can't say that I've seen everything Go-Mer has posted and maybe he has acted inappropriately but from what I've seen this isn't the case.

The reason I am defending him here is because basically nobody else will. I mean it does send off some red flags with the amount of people that are pissed off at him that could mean that he comes off a little arrogant, but surely defending or even offering alternative responses to a thread topic should not result in such chastisation should it? I know I'm not a regular here, I've been coming for the last little while to read up on discussions and I've noticed one thing that has happened, that has changed since I came. When I came here I told them which Star Wars I preferred and I was still welcomed regardless. Now I see personal attacks thrown Go-Mer's way when he hasn't really warranted such behaviour. On the flipside though maybe I haven't seen you in full anti-OOT swing and maybe you should cool it Go-Mer. I don't know for sure. I understand that we're all pretty passionate and we all just rub each other the wrong way sometimes. No need to bring it down a level to petty attacks though.


Nope, it's trolling. He's done it for years and just wants to fuck with us here it seems. I'd go back to some old boards and find posts from 1999+ and show you the boards he's been doing this on but I really just don't give a shit enough to do that.

Why else sign up at a board meant for complaints addressed to the man he worships? Seems pretty obvious to me...
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You are pretty lazy for a hate monger.
Your focus determines your reality.
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I find Go-Mer a tad annoying at times, but I also enjoy the differing opinions. But the posts in this thread, particularly the last one, is especially annoying, where you're just accusing people of all this supposed hate in every single post.

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Oh come on....this and the hooker comment in the other thread nails it.

Troll.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I find Go-Mer a tad annoying at times, but I also enjoy the differing opinions. But the posts in this thread, particularly the last one, is especially annoying, where you're just accusing people of all this supposed hate in every single post.


No kidding....especially since he claims my swearing is an indication of "anger." Notice I haven't been swearing much, yet he still claims I'm full of "hate" and "angry."

Troll.
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See me as you choose to.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
See me as you choose to.


I see you as the worse kind of troll. The one who doesn't do confrontations and uses passive-aggressive tactics to start trouble. Above all, you're quite patient in it all, which makes you totally aware of what you're doing.

You still haven't addressed why you're coming here and sprouting your Lucas love when you know damn well it isn't a popular thing to do here...

I got your number, you little bastard. You're not fooling anyone here...
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Easy there tiger.

I'm here (as I keep repeating over and over and over again) because I care about you guys. I feel bad that there are Star Wars fans who spend more of their time lamenting their fanship than they do celebrating it.

I think that getting Lucas to re-release the O-OT in a proper format would go a long way towards aleviating the negative focus a lot of us have, and if I can help someone like the new stuff more by presenting an alternate viewpoint to "It all sucks ass" then all the better.

The reason I keep speaking out against the negativity, is because I feel it is not helping the cause. Putting Lucas down all the time isn't going to make him think: "Gee, maybe I should go further out of my way for these nice people."

I think that there is a better way to get what we all want.

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You care? Ha ha ha ha ha. Then why not sign up years ago like I did?

Stop lying. You just came here to fuck with people who actually care about Star Wars and aren't Lucas sycophants like you. But so be it. we all have the right to post whatever we want under the TOS, don't we... sigh...

To all you lurkers out there, search for this guy on google to know what he's all about if you don't know already. I've known him since 1999 and it's always the same stuff from him, and he's still at it to this day. It's been 7 years and he's still discussing the brilliance of jar jar being hit in the balls twice in tpm... I'm tempted to say he's got no life at all, well I guess I sorta did. I just find it strange that I, someone who actually has no life, spend less time on shit like this than this guy. 7 years dedicated to kissing lucas ass. Think about it.
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Why don't the mods just ban Go-Mer? Perfectly simple solution. Never have I seen a troll quite like him. Some trolls just cause havoc and sit back to watch the show unfold, but Go Mer comes to a perfectly fun thread, and then starts talking about how great Star Wars is and how cool "differing opinions" are. But then every other post is his, and he squanders everyone's opinions by sucking all the air out of the room. Hypocrite? Or troll? I think the answer is simple.
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I signed the pettition within the first week it was available.
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Holy shit.

From StarWars.com:

(this is a post a "Go-Mer-Tonic" did in 2002.)

To me it is just two categories.

Negative Jerks, and Reasonable Fans.

They don't have to love everything to be a "reasonable fan", but if all they are doing is focusing on the negative, then they are just negative jerks.


(weeps for humanity)

EDIT: Wrong quote. Sorry.

What Go-Mer-Tonic forgets to tell you is that he has been banned many times over at TF.NET for trolling and flaming other members. The Basher's Sanctuary over at TF.NET is more of a social thread where people who have the same tastes post without the thread turning into a basher/gusher war.
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Oh, it gets better. Check this out.

A debate with Gomer on the IGN boards.

Featuring such classic quotes as:

(in reference to the PT) It seems to have worked out pretty well the way it is. It all matches up because it's all made the same way.

LOL

A lot of SW fans love the prequels just as much as the classic trilogy.

It's hard to say, are we including the people who didn't like the classic trilogy?

Critical Consensus: “Star Wars” Prequels Actually Better Reviewed Than Originals (link posted shows reviews from RottenTomatoes.com to support claim)


The great PT characters:

Anakin Skywalker
Darth Vader
Obi-Wan
Palpatine
Darth Sidious
The Emperor
Gran Moff Tarkin
Watto
Jar-Jar
Sebulba
Kit Fisto
Ki Adi Mundi
Mace Windu
Aayla Secura
Qui-Gon
Luke
Leia
Boba Fett
Jango Fett
Chewbacca
Yoda
Mon Mothma


Never mind the fact that half the people listed on here hit minor to non-existant parts. And that debate went on for five pages before he got bored and stopped posting.

So he's a gusher. I haven't seen one of those in a while.
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You think it came out in the end for you? Think about how it came out in the end for these guys.
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You should have dug up my "Is the classic trilogy dragging down the overall quality of the saga?" thread like they did in the "Take it easy with the George Lucas Bashing" thread.
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Wow gomer you're even more of a Lucas bitch than I thought you were. This thread is just terrible thread. How could anyone make something like this and then sign up here? Why oh why would anyone who hates the classic trilogy so much post here?
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Because I feel taste is subjective, and don't hold anything against people who don't like the SE changes. I just want as many people to be able to enjoy Star Wars as possible. If they are going to enjoy the O-OT more, then I would hope they can get that.

Also, I don't hate the O-OT, I just think that overall the 2004 SE is better. There are some things about it that aren't as good, but there are far more things that are better to me.

Also, I didn't just refer to some reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, I linked to an article they wrote where they determined that there was a higher % of positive reviews for the prequels than there were for the classic trilogy when you compared reviews that came out during the time of each movie's release.

Here it is again: Critical Consensus

I understand a lot of you don't like to hear things like this, but I don't think that makes me a troll.

Prequels Tomatometer Scores Based on Current Active Critics:
83% - Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
65% - Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
62% - Star wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Average Tomatometer: 70%

Original Trilogy Tomatometer Scores Based on Current Active Critics:
80% - Return of the Jedi
98% - The Empire Strikes Back
93% - Star Wars
Average Tomatometer: 90%

Tomatometer Scores for Original Trilogy During Original Release Dates:
31% - Return of the Jedi
52% - The Empire Strikes Back
79% - Star Wars
Average Tomatometer: 54%

I brought it up to illustrate the fact that it took time for critics to see how great the classic trilogy was, which lends credibility to my claim that the same could happen for the prequels as time goes on too.
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I enjoy the non-fucked-with star wars. Are you happy now?
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"Miss you, I will, Original Trilogy..."

"Your midichlorians are weak, Old man." -Darth Vader 2007 super deluxe extra special dipped in chocolate sauce edition.

http://prequelsstink.ytmnd.com/
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I'll be happier when you have it in the format you would prefer.
Your focus determines your reality.