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Florida "Baker Act" and "Gang Stalking" My True Horror Story!

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FanFiltration

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Sounds like a nightmare. Any idea why you're being stalked or who is behind it? Also, are you suggesting that the police are covering for the stalker?
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Sounds more like a joke. Or did you just find it here http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-is-organized-gang-stalking.html

About halfway down in the comments section is a story that's almost exactly the same, just with some minor changes. This might be more believable if the dates and times weren't exactly the same. Or is that post from you as well?
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Wow.

As if the harassment itself isn't enough you have to deal with this abusive police officer and this retarded piece of law.



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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Sounds more like a joke. Or did you just find it here http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2007/07/what-is-organized-gang-stalking.html

About halfway down in the comments section is a story that's almost exactly the same, just with some minor changes. This might be more believable if the dates and times weren't exactly the same. Or is that post from you as well?


Yes that's my story as well! I did not want to place my medical history here, but thanks...

First off, we are good people who have never hurt anyone, never had any problems with the law or crime. But, we are very political in our views and we also spoke out for PEACE when the war started in 2002. We also helped AIDS victims at a patients advocacy center that supported medical cannabis laws in California. We don't use cannabis (doctors even tested me with negative test results during my October ordeal). We just support the law for it's use in California by people with very serious medical need with a doctor's recommendation.

Why am I target? Could be due to my medical problems, personal lifestyle, our out spoken political views, or could be for other reasons. Our stalkers have not filled us in.

Our Stalking started in a rural town in California (Mariposa) and when we moved, began again the very first day we moved into our new home in Florida. We found out from some nice people who live by us that some calls had been made to people in our area with ugly rumors about us shortly before we arrived to our new home.

Now I have decided to come out, and broadcast this sick trend that hurts peoples personal freedom. If Big Brother is watching, little brother is going to have a big mouth! (I'm now placing all of my remaining energy into producing a film documentary on this subject)

A great YouTube video about "Gang Stalking" tactics can be seen by CLICKING HERE!

If you want to know how some (but not all) people are targeted for "Gang Stalking", click on the link below for a great video on how many groups are manipulated into "Gang Stalking" people even by the U.S. Government! CLICK HERE

Florida and California doesn't own the monopoly on gang stalking. Although Florida may have found a great new revenue stream.

From what I have Googled on gang stalking, it seems that it is going on all over the U.S., England, Germany, and other countries in the world. This is the "New World Order" at work folks!

SOME GOOD NEWS! (But more needs to be done)

The Honorable Jim Guest (U.S. Representative) is working to help victims, and get the word out to his fellow lawmakers about "Organized Stalking" groups and tactics. Representative Guest has been gathering videotaped testimony from victims to be presented to the U.S. Congress about people’s personal gang stalking experiences.

More people NEED to find out what this "Organized Stalking" is all about. It's important to help put this attack on our personal freedoms to an end!

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Uh, it looks more like a case of paranoia than anything else. What reason would these people have to "stalk" you? Do they know you? Do they know anything about you? I just can't believe that random people would be stalking other random people for no apparent reason.

I might sit there staring at someone filming with a video camera too, wondering what the hell they're filming. Especially when they hide the camera everytime someone gets to close. That wasn't in the video you linked to, but it was an additional video from that one.

This just seems like some serious paranoia to me. Nothing wrong with being paranoid, but it looks a little extreme right here. "Why are they watching me? What is the purpose?" Um, maybe it's nothing and you should just ignore it.
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FF explained in the post right above yours lordjedi several potential reasons for being stalked. I wouldn't want to write this off as paranoia, I am sure there is something to it. However, theorizing about it being more than just someone out with a personal grudge or a bunch of teenagers out for thrills and elevating it to the level of a government conspiracy or even higher than that into a part of an international secret society's plot to rule the world might be eligible for being considered paranoia. At anyrate, I have no doubt somebody really was harrassing FF and that he/she is not just imagining things.

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Not really. FF explained that they're very political and have been involved in many political movements. These were all out in California. They then moved to Florida and somehow, people 3000 miles apart that probably didn't even know each other, started stalking them. I'm sorry, but I find it really hard to believe that it's related. I also don't think it has anything to do with a government conspiracy. I think the more likely explanation, that you put forth, is that it's just a bunch of teenagers or other people with a lot of spare time pulling a prank.

Since the story seems like it was a one time incident, I'd hardly consider it stalking.

Here's a tip for you. The next time it happens and the cop acts like a jerk, get his badge number, then file a complaint with the police department. Sure, it's only one complaint and it may not do any good, but if you keep doing it and keep getting badge numbers, eventually someone's going to notice that something's fishy. It probably wouldn't hurt to start recording any other actual events. Just don't hide the camera. If they realize they're being recorded, they're more likely to stop. If you hide the camera, then other people that see what's happening might just think you're some kind of weirdo.
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I'm also curious, did you move to Florida to get away from stalkers or were you planning to move anyway?
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Uh, it looks more like a case of paranoia than anything else. What reason would these people have to "stalk" you? Do they know you? Do they know anything about you? I just can't believe that random people would be stalking other random people for no apparent reason.

I might sit there staring at someone filming with a video camera too, wondering what the hell they're filming. Especially when they hide the camera everytime someone gets to close. That wasn't in the video you linked to, but it was an additional video from that one.

This just seems like some serious paranoia to me. Nothing wrong with being paranoid, but it looks a little extreme right here. "Why are they watching me? What is the purpose?" Um, maybe it's nothing and you should just ignore it.



Thanks for your response.

You may help to make a point here about the common reactions victims must face.

Your comments sound very much like the typical text book reaction of some people who tend find it hard to believe "Stalking" actions could be truly taking place.

If anyone out there wants to do a bit of research on the subject and Google "Gang Stalking", they can find lordjedi's type of response to the "Gang Stalking" movement, and also to victims stories again and again. Thankfully the negative reactions are in the minority.


You can see such reactions to "Gang Stalking" stories at:

Click Here

Look how the votes about the entries tend to lean. See how there is some, but little support to suppress something that is clearly wrong with our society. The "it's all in your head" reaction is common , but the tactics of "Gang Stalking' are designed to get this type of response when victims go and seek help. Thank God it's not working. More victims are coming out everyday, and the word is getting out.

Some who are recruited to do stalking agents people such as us have been manipulated and lied to about the target, and some don't even know that they are a "Gang Stalker" or part of such a group. These people may truly believe that are providing a service to their community, and may not have any knowledge that other neighbors are also involved. Again, I told you above about how in our chase some phone calls had been made to a neighbor of ours who was nice enough to let us know and confirmed that this was in fact taking place. We had been informed of this after we started to expose tactics in our area. Our neighbor had the good sense to inform us. She told us that she had reservations about informing us, but could not keep quite. Anyway I am not into making wild unfounded statements. I get my facts straight, have a clear mind about what happens around me, and also have photo, video, and actual testimony that these "Stalking" events are very real. I'm sure there are a number of people who enjoy seeing this type of thing go on, and it does not deter me or, other whistleblowers at all.

Gang stalking involves the use of multiple individuals to stalk, harass and taunt a victim, as well as to vandalize personal property. This can take place for many years, particularly since law enforcement and legislation have yet to catch up with the reality of organized stalking by groups.

Techniques of psychological warfare are used against the target in a methodical and well orchestrated attack that often leaves the target a victim of ridicule among his friends and family because this occurrence is so hard to believe. However, the number of targets are increasing to the point that they can network with one another and find out that the same tactics are used everywhere. These tactics are intended to weaken the target to the point of physical and psychological collapse.


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Many people ask, "Why would anyone engage in this kind of activity?". In order to answer that question, it's important to realize that the person who has decided to target an individual is not the person (or persons in this case) doing the stalking. This is known as "stalking by proxy". Those who have called "the hit" (so-to-speak) may be doing it for any number of reasons, including revenge, jealousy, or a desire to keep someone silent. It may be that physically harming a person is considered too extreme or too risky by the perpetrators. In fact, this kind of psychological attack can be a far more effective way to harm someone. It can completely destroy a person's life while leaving little or no evidence to incriminate the perpetrators.

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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
I'm also curious, did you move to Florida to get away from stalkers or were you planning to move anyway?


Thanks for your question!

The plan was to move anyway (wanted to be in the warm weather). The stalking never did bug us that much at first, but grew stronger over time. Before moving we just kept notes, photos, and videos in our records, and chalked it up to random events or just plain bizarre behavior by people in our rural area. But when the same tactics started to be used again and again by others, and that patterns of tactics started to become more frequent we became suspicious that it was very organized. Before moving we thought it was a local church group behind this, because one of our California neighbors who befriended us and informed us about some rumors taking place (after she had moved from the area herself) was ostracized by her new local church (same denomination) and vandalism started to take place affecting her and her husband. Another husband and wife who moved in close to us was told lies about us being poor and a danger for break ins. Funny how a week after being told that we got our new Hummer H3. When they saw us in our new truck and found out that we owned two homes and that one of us worked for a law firm, they told us what was said about us by other people in our area. Then soon after they stopped communicating with the people who spread the lies about us, they started to be harassed in the same ways we had. We did not relate any of this to gang stalking at the time. We only found out about this subject and how big it was after looking up the words "community harassment" on Google in September 2007. This was after the same tactics had been showing up in Florida, and some people made some comments to us. This was from people that we did not know. These comments alerted us, and we are thankful that some people are not that smart, and like to brag about how they are part of a group doing this. Leave it to good old human nature to expose such things.

FF


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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
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Make no mistake. I think it's very possible that "Gang stalking" could be taking place, but you only posted one incident. It wasn't until later that you said it had been happening a lot. Do yourself a favor and document every incident.

And I'm sorry, but I still can't believe it's the "New World Order". Yeah, it might be some organized group, but to say it comes from high levels of government is true paranoia if I've ever seen it.

People have been saying there's a New World Order a foot for over 15 years (I read/heard about the same thing when I was a senior in high school). After doing a lot of research on the subject, I've found that it's nothing more than paranoid delusions by people who think their privacy rights are now somehow gone. Newsflash, if you do something outside your home, you have no privacy.



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Here are some more articles promoting the awareness of this growing problem:

http://www.freedomfchs.com/

http://www.eharassment.ca/multimedia/gangstalking.mp4

http://www.multistalkervictims.org/

http://stoporganizedstalking.org/rules_of_engagement.php

NOTE: I am only giving these links so that people can take a look at some of the posted ideas about this subject. I did not write the info in the web pages linked, or advocate every idea put forth in them.

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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: FanFiltration
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And I'm sorry, but I still can't believe it's the "New World Order". Yeah, it might be some organized group, but to say it comes from high levels of government is true paranoia if I've ever seen it.


This may be true. I have no way of knowing how deep this goes. There may be some thing to this "New World Order", but I have no proof.

All I know is that the tactics are the same in my situation that I have seen in other reports. I may be jumping the gun on the NWO thing.

Also, I don't think that our Government is all bad. I think that some groups can manipulate and use law officers and members of our government without those people even realizing what they may be part of another groups hateful agendas. All types can be conned.

I feel that more people should know about the tactics, so they can avoid being victims at either end of the game.

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OMG. Now I officially think you're a loon. At least two of those websites have got to be a joke. Terri Schiavo was a victim of Gang Stalking? Are you kidding me?! She was a victim of an abusive husband, nothing more. Tinfoil hats? Yep, that's right, they amplify radio signals. But some people vouch for them as having stopped the voices. How the hell can that be? And don't forget the episode of Mythbusters where they found a bunch of stuff on the Internet to do mind control and NONE of it worked.

LOONEY!!!!
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Originally posted by: lordjedi

OMG. Now I officially think you're a loon. At least two of those websites have got to be a joke. Terri Schiavo was a victim of Gang Stalking? Are you kidding me?! She was a victim of an abusive husband, nothing more. Tinfoil hats? Yep, that's right, they amplify radio signals. But some people vouch for them as having stopped the voices. How the hell can that be? And don't forget the episode of Mythbusters where they found a bunch of stuff on the Internet to do mind control and NONE of it worked.

LOONEY!!!!


That's not quite fair. I am only giving these links so that people can take a look at some of the posted ideas about this subject. I did not write the info in the web pages linked, or advocate every idea put forth in them. All I did was provide links so that people can get an idea of what is being said about "Gang Stalking”. I for one have NEVER had electronic or Electromagnetic Harassment attacks done to me, or personally know of anyone who has. It's just important for people to see as much info as they can of what is being put forth on the internet, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Every subject has fanatics attached to it, including this one. People need to have information of all types to form an opinion. Is anyone who is part of a religion that uses the Bible and or Old Testament a loony? Some people would say there is some far fetched accounts referenced in that text.

Funny how a few links discredits my personal story and mental competency. And, you attack as soon as you see something that you do not find credible in a document that has nothing to do with my personnel account. That says a lot to me about your lack of understanding and character.

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I think connecting it to the New World Order is pretty looney. And I think people are making more of this than need be, but on the opposing side, I don't think it fair victims be categorized as crazy. It is very plausible that there are organized groups doing things like this, maybe with or without a personal motive. Could be just randomly choosen victims. There are similar things taking place in other countries, I would chock that up to copy cat crimes, and the internet "Hey guys guess what me and some friend did to terrorize these people..." "ROTFL!!! I gotta try that!!!"

Remember the crop circles? Those things were showing up all over the world, so plenty of people were convinced that there was no other explaination for it other than extra terresterial activity. I think we all know how that turned out. It really is only the aluminum foil hat people who still believe crop circles are messages from space men.

Hmm, but them again if there is a NWO, I suppose this is exactly the type of reasoning they would want us to follow...

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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
Originally posted by: lordjedi

OMG. Now I officially think you're a loon. At least two of those websites have got to be a joke. Terri Schiavo was a victim of Gang Stalking? Are you kidding me?! She was a victim of an abusive husband, nothing more. Tinfoil hats? Yep, that's right, they amplify radio signals. But some people vouch for them as having stopped the voices. How the hell can that be? And don't forget the episode of Mythbusters where they found a bunch of stuff on the Internet to do mind control and NONE of it worked.

LOONEY!!!!


That's not quite fair. I am only giving these links so that people can take a look at some of the posted ideas about this subject. I did not write the info in the web pages linked, or advocate every idea put forth in them. All I did was provide links so that people can get an idea of what is being said about "Gang Stalking”. I for one have NEVER had electronic or Electromagnetic Harassment attacks done to me, or personally know of anyone who has. It's just important for people to see as much info as they can of what is being put forth on the internet, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Every subject has fanatics attached to it, including this one. People need to have information of all types to form an opinion. Is anyone who is part of a religion that uses the Bible and or Old Testament a loony? Some people would say there is some far fetched accounts referenced in that text.

Funny how a few links discredits my personal story and mental competency. And, you attack as soon as you see something that you do not find credible in a document that has nothing to do with my personnel account. That says a lot to me about your lack of understanding and character.

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I would not consider someone that reads and understands the Bible a looney. Those who don't understand the text need to sit down and really read it, not just give it a "quick read through". In order to understand anything that has deeper meaning and lots of symbolism, you have to actually slow down and think about what you're reading.

Linking to sites that talk about mind control and other fanatical subjects does not help your case. If you want to help your case, gather evidence other than "it's a conspiracy!". Document all the attacks. Write down the time, date, and place that they happened. Get video recordings if you can and don't try to hide that you're recording it. The more evidence that you have to backup your claim, the less crazy you will look.

I get that there will be lunatics and fanatics for everything. You should do yourself a favor and not provide links to their sites, especially if it would hurt your case. It'll only make you look like one of them.

The police aren't going to be able to ignore a log of times and dates along with a description of what happened. Including pictures of the assailants will only help your case in the long run. Until then, some people will just see it as the ramblings of some person out on the Internet that's trying to become famous.
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Originally posted by: C3PX

Remember the crop circles? Those things were showing up all over the world, so plenty of people were convinced that there was no other explaination for it other than extra terresterial activity. I think we all know how that turned out.


Yes, M. Night Shyamalan made lots of money.



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Originally posted by: FanFiltration

Yes, M. Night Shyamalan made lots of money.


Actually, I could be mistaken, but wasn't Signs a flop?
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Wow, this really sucks, dude. And for the record, LordJedi, you don't need to be such an unsupportive ass.

I don't think it's government-oriented so much as neighbors hearing things and taking it out of proportion and trying to scare you away. It really sucks that you have to go through all this just because some people are assholes - if this goes on for too much longer I'd consider moving again and not telling anyone there where you're moving to, although I don't really know how feasible that is for you.
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Originally posted by: FanFiltration

Yes, M. Night Shyamalan made lots of money.


Actually, I could be mistaken, but wasn't Signs a flop?



Flop or not, it had very little to do with crop circles. Maybe I take that back, perhaps everyone does not know how that turned out.

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Hmm, this whole case has seriously made me rethink my stance on gun control. I am going to destroy all my guns tomorrow. I have now joined the ranks of the anti-gun people! If some freaks were ever to harrass me and my family while we are in our very own home, a place in which we are suppose to feel safe and secure, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have a gun around. In fact, I think it might be smart to paste a sign on my door saying "No fire arms allowed! This is a gun free home" that way anyone who might want to harrass me or rob me or whatever else could feel 100% at ease about it.

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Originally posted by: lordjedi


Actually, I could be mistaken, but wasn't Signs a flop?




Production Budget: $72 million

TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic: $227,966,634 55.8%
+ Foreign: $180,281,283 44.2%
= Worldwide: $408,247,917


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