Fix up original Terminator effects?

Author: naknek
Date: 22-Oct-2004, 4:39 PM

Author: naknek
Time: 22-Oct-2004 4:39 PM
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OK, just wondering: I'm a huge fan of Terminator 2, but I've always found the original Terminator to be almost unwatchable when it gets to the climax due to the hideous Terminator effects -- it really jolts me out of the movie whenever I see it.

While I really prefer to do without the "enhancements" Lucas added to SW, I would welcome the replacement of a decent-looking Terminator. Just curious what others think about this ... I'm guessing most here would rather not see it messed with.

I find it strange that this is a change I've daydreamed about for a while now, but I've had no desire to see the effects cleaned up in ANY other movies I can think of ... normally I can just accept the effects of a movie as a product of its era. I think one reason Terminator is different for me is that T1 and T2 have such a gap in the quality of their effects, but the same actors, etc ... so the effects differences mar the continuity to some degree. Also, probably a big reason is that I saw T2 first, so going back to T1 was just that much more painful.

Author: Darth Justin
Time: 22-Oct-2004 4:44 PM
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Wasn't the first Terminator movie made real cheap anyway? I think the movie was more about story then effects. The effects didn't tell the story, as Lucas likes to claim all the time.

Author: Warbler
Time: 22-Oct-2004 5:22 PM
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leave the Terminator as it is. The effects aren't wonderful, but they will do and they are hardly "unwatchable"

Author: Regicidal_Maniac
Time: 22-Oct-2004 5:39 PM
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I love those stop motion effects in Terminator.

They don't pull me out of the film because the direction as a whole so powerful that it would take Jar Jar to pull me out at that moment.

Stop motion effects such as those in Terminator and in RoboCop 1 and 2 look more real to me than CGI ever can.

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Author: PSYCHO_DAYV
Time: 23-Oct-2004 12:07 PM
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I SAY LEAVE IT ALONE. IF JAMES CAMMERON WANTS TO MESS WITH IT THOUGH HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO.

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Author: Windexed
Time: 23-Oct-2004 1:04 PM
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I might be in favor of it as long as the original is still available <cough>. Also, if he actually were to spruce up the effects, I think that he should use traditional animatronics/props and not just lazily cgi the endoskeleton scenes. Just my two cents.

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Author: DanielB
Time: 23-Oct-2004 3:21 PM
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Change Terminator? Hell no! One of the errors in the movie (and I was the first in the entire world to notice it and post it on the net, I know because I searched extensively) is near the beginning when Reese asks the cop the date; who says "12th, May, Thursday". The movie is set in 1984. The 12th of May is a Saturday in 1984, it was a Thursday in 1983.

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Author: PSYCHO_DAYV
Time: 23-Oct-2004 3:24 PM
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GOOD JOB, DANIELB.

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Author: Darth Justin
Time: 23-Oct-2004 3:29 PM
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Riiight...the first person in the entire world. Congratulations.

Author: PSYCHO_DAYV
Time: 23-Oct-2004 4:10 PM
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HEY, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE JUST NOT PROBABLE.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 24-Oct-2004 2:13 PM
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you know the terminator is just one of those movies where the effects were great even though it was made so long ago. so no i shouldnt be changed.

Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 24-Oct-2004 3:31 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen all of the first two Terminators.

Wait.. Yeah... I think I saw all of 2...

So, what is the scene that nanek was talking about?

Author: DanielB
Time: 24-Oct-2004 3:33 PM
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You know what? The effects in War of the Worlds are pretty primitive, maybe we should change them too?

Author: Shimraa
Time: 24-Oct-2004 4:09 PM
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lol i got an idea lets redo all of the 70s scifi movies.

Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 24-Oct-2004 4:10 PM
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But watching ancient campy effects is fun.

Author: Shimraa
Time: 24-Oct-2004 4:11 PM
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so buy the Originals if you dont want to watch the new ones.

Author: Darth Chaltab
Time: 24-Oct-2004 4:40 PM
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The orignials of what? I didn't even know there was a War of the Worlds movie.

Author: Shimraa
Time: 24-Oct-2004 4:49 PM
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LOL

Author: Warbler
Time: 24-Oct-2004 7:32 PM
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Quote
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
The orignials of what? I didn't even know there was a War of the Worlds movie.

you have to watch more movies. I say weither the effects are bad or good leave them the way they were made.

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 25-Oct-2004 5:51 AM
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Part of what makes the original Terminator so great is those special effects. There's a grimy look to the whole thing that just seems to ground it in reality, unlike, say, the antiseptic and artificially clean look of the PT and the first two Harry Potter movies.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 25-Oct-2004 6:50 AM
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ok thou i dont think they should change the effects, the effects are not what defines that movie for me.