Five live action shows

Rick McCallum has said that they hope that after the live action show's second or third year they could make a spin-off show for a character (like what? a Boba Fett show with Daniel Logan? puke!) and that by the fourth or fifth year there could be at least five separate shows going at the same time.

Five fucking shows? Are they trying to take over television? Talk about a fucking industry! Well, I guess that's where I'll quit trying to follow what Lucas does with Star Wars, because I'm not watching five bloody shows of the stuff.

To me there's something awfully cynical about making a whole load of shows of this stuff. It's like thoroughly milking the thing after it's already been soundly murdered and beaten to deah with a stick.

George, I don't want your five fucking shows. I just want the OOT restored and made available in future formats.

Yeah, that's skyjedi's job.

HotRod said:

Stop moaning!!!

 

 

Stop acting like an arse.

Criticising something that deserves to be criticised isn't "moaning".

skyjedi2005 said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

 

Rick McCallum has said that they hope that after the live action show's second or third year they could make a spin-off show for a character (like what? a Boba Fett show with Daniel Logan? puke!) and that by the fourth or fifth year there could be at least five separate shows going at the same time.

Five fucking shows? Are they trying to take over television? Talk about a fucking industry! Well, I guess that's where I'll quit trying to follow what Lucas does with Star Wars, because I'm not watching five bloody shows of the stuff.

To me there's something awfully cynical about making a whole load of shows of this stuff. It's like thoroughly milking the thing after it's already been soundly murdered and beaten to deah with a stick.

George, I don't want your five fucking shows. I just want the OOT restored and made available in future formats.

 

 

Are you sure he did not mean five different seasons or five different story arcs going on at the same time like has been speculated on the show being an anthology series.  

As for bitching and whining i gave up on star wars and lucas a while ago and sometimes just enjoy the conversations and a spirited debate, but lucas destroying star wars is past tense since he cannot really bury it any further than the prequels or the non anamorphic gout and ruined 2004 dvd release with botched sound and colors.

I hate to restate my opinion on where i parted ways with star wars and indiana jones but it is like this.

star wars 1977-1983 R.I.P.

indiana jones 1981-1989 R.I.P.

The other movies are so bad as to be an alternate reality version of the series they claim to be, and i will never accept them as canon.  I would just as soon pretend they don't exist.  For those who enjoyed skull and will see indy V more power to them.

Are you sure he did not mean five different seasons or five different story arcs going on at the same time like has been speculated on the show being an anthology series.  

I think it's clear he didn't just mean five different arcs. The talk seems to have been about five different SHOWS. McCallum said "One of the ideas is that we’ll have multiple series going on in about two or three years' time."

As for bitching and whining

Justified criticism is not "bitching and whining". Calling it bitching and whining and "moaning" is pushing the argument of the Lucas worshippers who consider all criticism invalid. The whole "bitching and whining/moaning" accusation is based on the false assumption that there's something wrong with such criticism. There isn't. Speaking out against a real problem is a good thing to do.

but lucas destroying star wars is past tense since he cannot really bury it any further than the prequels or the non anamorphic gout and ruined 2004 dvd release with botched sound and colors.

He can always ruin it more.

If Lucas releases the true unmolested versions of his movies restored on blu ray that will be the last of anything i ever by from Lucasfilm.

Here is a list of them:

THX 1138

American Graffiti

Star Wars

The Empire Strikes Back

Return of the Jedi

Raiders of the Lost Ark

The Temple of Doom

The Last Crusade

Nice pipe dream, skyjedi. The remastered OOT is the ST of this site.

The 2012 doomsday scenario has a more likely chance than this.

HotRod said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

HotRod said:

Stop moaning!!!

 

 

Stop acting like an arse.

Criticising something that deserves to be criticised isn't "moaning".

 

 

Me acting like an arse...Mate, you're bloody moaning about something that hasn't even happened yet, or if it's even going to happen.

 

You're the arse...all you ever do is bloody moan...Christ help anyone that actually has to live with you. You're worst than my missus, and that's saying something.

 

 

Lighten up man!!

Like I said, you're acting like an arse. Such wondrous wisdom coming from you (as in total bullshit).

You seem to think it's unreasonable to be concerned about the future. You must be one of these people who live mindlessly in the present with no concern for what's to come.

Criticism isn't "moaning". I think what I post is rather more of value than going around telling people "stop moaning" or whatever it is you do -I haven't seen anything of special value in your posts that sticks in my mind.

There was absolutely no call for you to come onto this thread and start getting rude with me. It was absolutely unnecessary. If you weren't interested in the topic of the thread, you could have posted elsewhere. If you felt the show wasn't something we needed to worry about yet, you could have said so politely. But no, all you could think of was "Stop moaning". 

Stop acting the arse.

Ziz said:

HotRod said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

HotRod said:

Stop moaning!!!

 

 

Stop acting like an arse.

Criticising something that deserves to be criticised isn't "moaning".

 

 

Me acting like an arse...Mate, you're bloody moaning about something that hasn't even happened yet, or if it's even going to happen.

 

You're the arse...all you ever do is bloody moan...Christ help anyone that actually has to live with you. You're worst than my missus, and that's saying something.

 

 

Lighten up man!!

Ditto.  Skyjedi and VINH oughta get married.

Ah, another person who likes acting like an arse. Giving me unprovoked shit on the other thread wasn't enough for you?

C3PX said:

McCallum is the guy who quite literally starts orgasming every time he talks about George Lucas or Star Wars. Just because this guy dreams of their being five Star Wars tv shows, thank goodness, doesn't mean it is going to happen. Nothing lasts forever, and I think Star Wars has (finally!) run its course, at least with adult/teenage audiences. I have a feeling the live action tv show will never happen, I think it is the sequel trilogy of the current generation of Star Wars fans, but ultimately will wind up being "an invention of the media" sort of thing. 

If it does get made, I can't imagine it aiming for an adult audience (though I wish it would, I'd love to have a live action Star Wars tv show that I enjoy, but there is just no part of me that thinks this could be anything but awful. I certainly wouldn't mind being wrong though). And unfortunately, if it were aimed at an adult audience, I am afraid it would be doomed to failure simply due to the fact that sci-fi shows don't seem to go over to well. If it managed to be more character focused like BSG and be more adult themed, it might fly, but that seems really, really, really unlikely. 

If the live action show does get made, my guess is that it will be more along the lines of a live action kids show with a high budget. Basically a cartoon with live actors.

Either way, I think Star Wars' number is up. From here on out it may endure as a children's cartoon series, but nothing more.

 

The live action show is supposed to be in the style of Battlestar Galactica and Firefly and has been compared to the Sopranos and Deadwood. How Lucas is going to make something like that I don't know. But it is adult-aimed. That doesn't mean it's going to be any good.

skyjedi2005 said:

If Lucas releases the true unmolested versions of his movies restored on blu ray that will be the last of anything i ever by from Lucasfilm.

Here is a list of them:

THX 1138

American Graffiti

Star Wars

The Empire Strikes Back

Return of the Jedi

Raiders of the Lost Ark

The Temple of Doom

The Last Crusade

The indy trilogy already got an acceptable dvd release but as for the rest it is a joke, they no longer exist unless you own the laserdiscs long out of print from before the cgi changes.

Even though Indiana Jones trilogy did have too much dvnr and was not the theatrical colors or it was missing the stereo mix of the three films it was still a far sight better than those botched star wars releases.

He tried slipping a cgi altered shot into Graffiti and hoped no one would notice, just like he did with the HD broadcast of Raiders.  People like me who have seen these historic films dozens of times will spot such a jarring addition even though the image moves by at whatever the frame rate on dvd and TV is.  I know it is not 24fps until blu ray only cinemas could do that.

At this point these other films getting a DVD release would just be a bonus as far as i'm concerned if they are not restored to be viable to strike new 35mm cinema prints or restored on the highest quality home media currently blu ray, then not only does lucasfilm miss out but the original negatives are left to time and age in Lucas vaults.  He thinks 1080p video versions are archival and permanent, which is incredibly laughable because 1080 does not even cover the resolving power of a 35mm release print much less what is on the camera negative.

 

I will not be buying the incredibly unspecial edition with the new special defects of star wars on blu ray, anymore than i will buy the special edition of e.t. on blu ray, theatrical versions from lucas and spielberg or no sale. The star wars Prequels and kingdom of the crystal numbskull can rot in Lucas vaults for all eternity as far as I'm concerned as i never want to see them again, ever.  I will forever and ever hate that phantom plot movie, attack of the wooden dialogue romance, and revenge of the shit.

The 1997 special edition of star wars will always be preferably to the 2004 despite its defects.  Its on film with actual film grain and true colors, and Hayden does not ruin return of the jedi and the entire saga by his creepy looking almost mug shot face staring back at the audience, at least in 1997,lol. 

Boba Fetts voice is still boba fett and not that bad prequels actor.  Yeah Greedo stills shoots, but  that and luke's scream are the worst changes in that version,imho. 

Next thing Lucas will have Ewan Mcgregor redub guiness in star wars telling luke about the midiclorians and the end of the film wil have kenobis ghost saying, "the midichlorians will be with you always!"

I wouldn't buy the SE on blu-ray either. I didn't buy the 2004 box set. I'm not interested in buying the mutilated versions of the films. Well, not unless I can get the real thing too -having the screwed up editions around can be useful for studyng how Star wars got fucked up. But if the real thing is not being made available I'm not buying the fake version. Which is why I didn't even consider buying that 2004 box set.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas someday replaces the Yoda and even Jabba puppets in the OOT with cgi versions. I've heard they want to replace the Phantom Menace Yoda puppet with cgi. That puppet was awful, but so was the cgi version of Yoda. There was an idea of replacing ROTJ's Ackbar with something presumably for the 2004 dvd release, I read.

I'm not as against TPM and Numbskull as you are, though they aren't very genuine film experiences. I would prefer if Lucas didn't fuck with TPM any further. I'm not all worked up about the original TPM dvd changes, but enough's enough. As for the other two prequels, in some ways I couldn't give a fuck what happens to them, but I also want what happened to Star Wars to be accurately recorded and represented. So if people have to be watching ROTS I want them to see how Lucas fucked it up in 2005, not how he fucks it up in whenever he comes back to fiddle with it.

The Episode III theatrical/DVD comparison is very nitpicky - the only difference is the one transition, which was a wipe in the theatrical cut, and is a hard cut in the DVD version.

Nevertheless, sky brings up a good point. If George Lucas' movies come out on blu-ray, I want the original versions. In the case of the Indy trilogy I don't care about the snake pit reflection and something in the big rolling ball shot being gone. The blatantly cgi shot during the truck chase in the HD broadcast is a different story. As long as it's the exact versions on the dvd that we get on blu-ray I'll consider buying it, but if Lucas and Spielberg (really, I guess it's more up to George isn't it .... blast ) actually intend to keep that 2008 cgi shot in the movie, sorry guys, you ain't getting my money. They really should know better, but as has been said, I guess George needs to blatantly alter at least one shot in all his classic movies.

Anyway, yeah, I don't know where McCallum is getting this idea of five simultaneous shows. That quote has been flying around the internet for like, what, two years now?

Ziz said:

Which was where, exactly?

I didn't have the chance to memorize all 200,000+ frames of the film in the theater like Sky and VINH did, which is apparently what enables them to critique the films so specifically in spite of constantly claiming that they refuse to watch them.

The 35mm and D-Cinema versions of ROTS are 100% identical (I think). There is at least one alteration on the dvd, though. Instead of there being a wipe to transition from Padme's ship flying away from Mustafar to the shot of Anakin's hand, there's just a straight cut.