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He did thank the creative artists when he received the Irving G Thalberg  award.

Last time i can remember him claiming he did not make Star Wars all by himself.

I wonder what he would say about Indiana Jones if he was asked.
Would he credit Steven Spielberg and Lawrence Kasden.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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msycamore said:

It's sad that even in an interview like that, he isn't able to be sincere when describing the writing process of what is essentially a simple fantasy movie. Instead he needs to burp his programmed "Lucasfilm mythology." The expression on Nolan's face is basically "What the hell are you talking about."

 I read no such expression on Nolan's face, although I will concede that I'm perhaps not as familiar with it (his face, that is) as you may be.

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RicOlie_2 said:

I read no such expression on Nolan's face, although I will concede that I'm perhaps not as familiar with it (his face, that is) as you may be.

Ok, ok it was my reaction. Don't be such a killjoy. :)

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Mkay...I've learned that one easy way to identify a dye-transfer print is by its silver/gray soundtrack strip. If...anyone still cares. ;-)

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This is my first time posting here - howdy! I have an original german film trailer of Star Wars released in 1977. I have the date handwritten on the side too - just not looking at it right now. It is the original black studio box from 20th Century Fox. To the best of my knowledge it is complete and also has two smaller reels. Both with Star Wars scenes on them. It is pretty neat. Currently, I am looking for someone in my hometown area (Boston) to examine the film so I can confirm that what is stated on the studio box is in fact what is on the reel. Anyone have any suggestions? I do want to sell it  once examined and do not want it cut into pieces..it is pretty rare to have the trailer, no?

Thanks!

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Cut it into pieces and they will find you... in pieces :-D

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I feel the need to comment on a few things. In 1997, film restoration was entirely old-school. Digital wasn’t up to the task yet. If you had a 3 color separation and one of the colors shrank at a different rate, they were junk. Fast forward to today and this is the very process that has restored virtually every film. No longer does difference in shrinkage make the 3 color separation useless. It just requires some extra work. In 1989, the Gone With the Wind negatives were found to suffer this in spots, so they had to use a print to patch those places. 20 years later, they used those original negatives in their entirely and realigned them. This has been invaluable with restoring color films shot on color stock. While the original color negative often has faded, some of the colors remain crisper than the color separations. Typically it is the blue/yellow that fades on these negatives and they replace it with the color separation blue/yellow to restore the picture. If the ANH color separations still survive, a complete restoration of it is still possible and relatively easy with modern restoration techniques. Someone who cares just needs to do it.

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Why do you think prints are rare? This was the biggest film of all time and showed in thousands of theaters around the world. There must have been 5,000 or more prints of this film struck. Is there a reason to believe that most of these prints were destroyed? (Maybe there is…I sincerely don’t know.)

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msycamore said:
"I wrote a giant script. The original film was basically subtitled The Tragedy of Darth Vader. And in the beginning Darth Vader comes in and kills everybody and in the middle you found out that this kid is actually the son of Darth Vader, and in the end the son validates, vindicates and allows the father to be ahh…" an awkward pause, Lucas scratches his nose and continues.

It’s sad that even in an interview like that, he isn’t able to be sincere when describing the writing process of what is essentially a simple fantasy movie. Instead he needs to burp his programmed “Lucasfilm mythology.” The expression on Nolan’s face is basically “What the hell are you talking about.”

Much more sad is how completely fabricated that entire story is. Honestly, he seems mentally ill at times. That original script was nothing like that. Annikin and Vader are two different people and Luke is older than Vader. Vader is just a military general, not some disfigured & cloaked tragic central character. It’s bizarre that he thinks he can repeat that lie continually and it will somehow become reality. The scripts are all out there for anyone who wants to read them. He’s delusional.

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dwsiddall said:

Why do you think prints are rare? This was the biggest film of all time and showed in thousands of theaters around the world. There must have been 5,000 or more prints of this film struck. Is there a reason to believe that most of these prints were destroyed? (Maybe there is…I sincerely don’t know.)

Films are “on loan” to theatres, and theatres must return them to their owners (the studios) at the end of the loan period, like a checked-out book at the library. Private ownership of film reels only even happens when someone says “Oopsie! We lost the whole film! Just bill us the replacement cost!” which sometimes happens for real, but is often a way to get film reels into the gray market. The studio owns them, and for these particular films, I believe Mr. Verta has verified that the “destroy order” for these films both exists and is still in effect today. So in short, if everyone was a good rule-obeying theatre operator, every single print would have been destroyed long ago. The prints still in existence are almost entirely due to other sorts of theatre operators.

So it’s not really a matter of how many copies of the films were struck, so much as how many people had the foresight to pull a fast one on the studios and get a private copy. Of that, how many got the type of print that didn’t fade into useless reels of pink vinegar after ten years (the vast majority of reels out there were fast-fading)? So, yeah, rare–and due to chemistry, getting rarer every day.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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There has been a story or two in the news in the past few years, of old movie theaters being cleaned out or torn down, and finding a stash of feature films.

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Where were you in '77?

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danny_boy said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Were the seps misaligned or just missing a color layer?

I have heard of other restorations where either a layer was missing or was accidentally duplicated.

Is this why we have so much more dirt and grain than what was originally exhibited in 1977.  Because they did a bad job?

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http://www.dga.org/Events/2011/04-april-2011/George-Lucas-on-Star-Wars.aspx

…Lucas says he went to Poland and Czechoslovakia to retrieve prints.

In other words huge chunks of the special edition are based off 35mm release prints.

Having watched the 2011 bluray  upscaled to 4K it easy to determine 1st generation negs from dupe stocks.

The discrepancies have been equalized by DNR.

Wow, Lucas went to a country which stopped existing in 1992? 😃
Sorry, I couldn’t resist