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monks19 said:

Any fresh news on this project ?

Since the last update, I managed to get another mono IB Tech print for the project. It includes reels 1 and 4 (missing in the first mono IB Tech print) and is exceptionally clean. Also, the SP color print from 1969, which I’ve mentioned before, has been scanned as a just-in-case resource for any missing or badly damaged frames from the Technicolor prints. I’m just about covered on the visual front of this project, thank God, but there have been some fascinating developments in the sound department— particularly concerning the interstitials. For now, that’s all I can say.

monks19 said:

I’ve been able to see the last result and all I can say WOW!!! Terrific work on this. I’m looking forward for any future work/improvements on this one. The only things I think that still need some works are the parts that are still looking rough on the image (dammages and splices are quite presents at the beginning of the movie) and of course the Fantasound sound track that needs some patches and adjustmants here and there.

I think you’re referring to this release, which I had nothing to do with. The project page you’re on right now is about an entirely separate Fantasia project, the end goal of which is to present as much of the original film as possible in 4K/HDR, multi-channel surround audio, and include a much cleaner optical mono mix as well. As usual, it’s slow goings over here, but the project is still progressing nevertheless.

“You missed! How could you miss-- he was THREE FEET in front of you!”
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monks19 said:

Hello all. I hope you’re doing well. Any fresh news on this project ? I’ve been able to see the last result and all I can say WOW!!! Terrific work on this. I’m looking forward for any future work/improvements on this one. The only things I think that still need some works are the parts that are still looking rough on the image (dammages and splices are quite presents at the beginning of the movie) and of course the Fantasound sound track that needs some patches and adjustmants here and there.

Otherwise, terrific work and huge improvement over the Thunderbean release indeed (which, to be fair was only scanned without any work/manipulations at all).

Is this released already? Where?

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
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TonyWDA said:

monks19 said:

Any fresh news on this project ?

Since the last update, I managed to get another mono IB Tech print for the project. It includes reels 1 and 4 (missing in the first mono IB Tech print) and is exceptionally clean. Also, the SP color print from 1969, which I’ve mentioned before, has been scanned as a just-in-case resource for any missing or badly damaged frames from the Technicolor prints. I’m just about covered on the visual front of this project, thank God, but there have been some fascinating developments in the sound department— particularly concerning the interstitials. For now, that’s all I can say.

monks19 said:

I’ve been able to see the last result and all I can say WOW!!! Terrific work on this. I’m looking forward for any future work/improvements on this one. The only things I think that still need some works are the parts that are still looking rough on the image (dammages and splices are quite presents at the beginning of the movie) and of course the Fantasound sound track that needs some patches and adjustmants here and there.

I think you’re referring to this release, which I had nothing to do with. The project page you’re on right now is about an entirely separate Fantasia project, the end goal of which is to present as much of the original film as possible in 4K/HDR, multi-channel surround audio, and include a much cleaner optical mono mix as well. As usual, it’s slow goings over here, but the project is still progressing nevertheless.

Ah ok, wrong project indeed. Sorry about that (and thanks for the right link). Although, I would really love to see yours as well once finished. When and where do you plan to release it, Btw ?

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monks19 said:

TonyWDA said:

monks19 said:

Any fresh news on this project ?

Since the last update, I managed to get another mono IB Tech print for the project. It includes reels 1 and 4 (missing in the first mono IB Tech print) and is exceptionally clean. Also, the SP color print from 1969, which I’ve mentioned before, has been scanned as a just-in-case resource for any missing or badly damaged frames from the Technicolor prints. I’m just about covered on the visual front of this project, thank God, but there have been some fascinating developments in the sound department— particularly concerning the interstitials. For now, that’s all I can say.

monks19 said:

I’ve been able to see the last result and all I can say WOW!!! Terrific work on this. I’m looking forward for any future work/improvements on this one. The only things I think that still need some works are the parts that are still looking rough on the image (dammages and splices are quite presents at the beginning of the movie) and of course the Fantasound sound track that needs some patches and adjustmants here and there.

I think you’re referring to this release, which I had nothing to do with. The project page you’re on right now is about an entirely separate Fantasia project, the end goal of which is to present as much of the original film as possible in 4K/HDR, multi-channel surround audio, and include a much cleaner optical mono mix as well. As usual, it’s slow goings over here, but the project is still progressing nevertheless.

Ah ok, wrong project indeed. Sorry about that (and thanks for the right link). Although, I would really love to see yours as well once finished. When and where do you plan to release it, Btw ?

Definitely tomorrow for sure.

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TonyWDA said:

Sometime today, or perhaps later this week, I’ll post a “to do” list of sorts at the end of the original post, to make it easier for those who have followed this project since early pandemic, and newcomers who are just discovering it, to keep track of where it stands and what needs to be done next.

Are you still going to post this list? I thought it was a good idea, would make it easier to follow the project without asking for updates all the time (and will also give those who “can’t wait” an idea why they should, I guess)

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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Curious how this is coming along? Such an exciting project. I work in video editing so if you need help with anything I’m happy to pitch in!

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GlupShitto said:

Curious how this is coming along?

It’s coming along fine; I don’t have as much time as I’d prefer to make more consistent progress and updates, but things are still moving forward. I’m currently having the IB Tech prints scanned. Going by the proxy previews alone, the footage looks great. I’ll post an update soon after receiving the files.

CMGF said:

Are you still going to post this list? I thought it was a good idea, would make it easier to follow the project without asking for updates all the time (and will also give those who “can’t wait” an idea why they should, I guess)

Done.

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There are rumors on MySpleen that Fantasia is going to get a 4K restoration released on Disney+ in the next few days which might finally have the full Deems Taylor audio. I could’t find anything about it on the internet, but may worth keeping eyes on it?

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I mean, I’m totally for that if it’s true, but whoever started/passed along that rumor may be confusing the news with Snow White’s 4K release on Disney+, which I believe is slated for the 16th of this month. As for Fantasia, I don’t think Disney would quietly slip in a 4K remaster to one of its “Big 5” features with so little fanfare, but I suppose we’ll know whether the rumor is true over the next few days.

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Yeah, that would be weird if Disney released a 4K restoration of Fantasia quietly. The guy who started this rumor was asked about it and replied:


I don’t know, one of my friends in the UK got to see a theatrical reshowing recently and told me it had Deems Tayler.

as for the release date, that’s the rumoured date that all of the 4K restorations are being added to Disney+


Whether the Disney+ rumor is true or not, if this guy is right about the Deems Taylor audio and it was actually found… then, is there any way we may be able to get our hands on it? That would quite a huge progression in the preservation of Fantasia.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows

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CMGF said:

Whether the Disney+ rumor is true or not, if this guy is right about the Deems Taylor audio and it was actually found… then, is there any way we may be able to get our hands on it?

Oh, absolutely. I can bet on it. When the 4K/HDR transfers for “The Black Cauldron” and “The Sword in the Stone” went live, it didn’t take very long for 1:1 rips to show up and make their rounds. If Fantasia’s 4K doesn’t see a physical release before it drops on Disney+ (unlikely, I think, but there’s a first time for everything), then you can expect rips to show up soon after.

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Words like “I don’t know” and “my friend in another country told me” are not very encouraging.

I firmly doubt there was a recent theatrical showing of Fantasia in the UK which had both Deems Tayler’s voice and the longer intros.

But it’s the 15th, so is anything on Disney+?

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Class316 said:

Words like “I don’t know” and “my friend in another country told me” are not very encouraging.

I firmly doubt there was a recent theatrical showing of Fantasia in the UK which had both Deems Tayler’s voice and the longer intros.

I know, but it raised my expectations somehow. Just brought it up here to see if anyone else than this guy on MySpleen knows anything about such a release.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
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TonyWDA said:

CMGF said:

Whether the Disney+ rumor is true or not, if this guy is right about the Deems Taylor audio and it was actually found… then, is there any way we may be able to get our hands on it?

Oh, absolutely. I can bet on it. When the 4K/HDR transfers for “The Black Cauldron” and “The Sword in the Stone” went live, it didn’t take very long for 1:1 rips to show up and make their rounds. If Fantasia’s 4K doesn’t see a physical release before it drops on Disney+ (unlikely, I think, but there’s a first time for everything), then you can expect rips to show up soon after.

A little off topic, but The Muppet Movie and The Great Muppet Caper also have 4K/HDR transfers on Disney+, and I can’t find any 1:1 rips of them online. I wish I could.

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Actually I also can’t find the 4K transfers of Snow White and Cinderella anywhere.

“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows