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Originally posted by: Trooperman
The transfer for the original SW on the Faces is supposed to be superior to the Def. Collection.


I'd say that's pretty much impossible, since both these sets were made from the same telecine transfer. Although I guess the split saber problem was fixed in there somewhere...

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Originally posted by: dark_jediHoichi are ALL the "FACES" VHS tapes fullscreen and if not how can you tell from looking at the set, if it is full or not?i see ebay has alot of these tapes for cheap,but none say if it is full or wide.
I know there are VHS tapes in both versions, not sure how to tell them apart. By the way did you get my package DJ?



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Originally posted by: Karyudo
Originally posted by: Trooperman
The transfer for the original SW on the Faces is supposed to be superior to the Def. Collection.


I'd say that's pretty much impossible, since both these sets were made from the same telecine transfer. Although I guess the split saber problem was fixed in there somewhere...

This is an ongoing debate and in many ways a subjective one. Pouring over captures from both sets, it's safe to say they both have their strengths and weaknesses.


That said, it's hard to argue against a straight Faces transfer as there doesn't seem to be one to date.

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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
... are ALL the "FACES" VHS tapes fullscreen and if not how can you tell from looking at the set ...

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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
are ALL the "FACES" VHS tapes fullscreen and if not how can you tell from looking at the set, if it is full or not?i see ebay has alot of these tapes for cheap,but none say if it is full or wide.


The widescreen Faces set comes in a differently shaped box set. I had thought I remembered them being a different colour as well, but apparently not.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-THX-Widescreen-Collectors-Edition_W0QQitemZ6442157138QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-TRILOGY-VHS-THX-Widescreen-Boxed-Set-NICE_W0QQitemZ6441934004QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-THX-Widescreen-Edition_W0QQitemZ6441417164QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-THX-Widescreen-Edition_W0QQitemZ6441137449QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-THX-Widescreen-Edition-Collectors-Set_W0QQitemZ6440847118QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
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i am actually looking for the fullscreen version,do you have any links for those?
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i own the widescreen vhs faces. actually, that was the first thing i bought with my first paycheck in my life. ahh. memories.

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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
i am actually looking for the fullscreen version,do you have any links for those?
DJ


I own this set. I'd be willing to let you use them for captures if you want. They've been hardly viewed at all. In fact, ANH still is in the shrinkwrap. I'd be willing to lose that for the greater good here . Let me know if you're interested.

You can go about your business. Move along, move along.

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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
i am actually looking for the fullscreen version,do you have any links for those?
DJ


Here are the first four pages or so worth on ebay, though you would probably be better off taking MoveAlong up on the offer to borrow them.
They never indicate that they are the 4:3 P&S versions, but they all look like they are.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-boxed-set_W0QQitemZ6440728969QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-1995-VHS_W0QQitemZ6440753064QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-Boxed-Set-VHS-Must-See_W0QQitemZ6440894398QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-TRILOGY-VHS-BOXED-SET-WITH-BONUS-Lot_W0QQitemZ6440897011QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-1995-VHS_W0QQitemZ6440930720QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-box-set-1995-3-VHS-tapes_W0QQitemZ6442208556QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-1995-VHS_W0QQitemZ6440895563QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-Epidodes-4-5-6-in-1-package_W0QQitemZ6441122283QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-TRILOGY-3-VHS-BOX_W0QQitemZ6441217628QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-1995-VHS-THX-Sealed-Set-OOP-no-dvd_W0QQitemZ6441248082QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-VHS-Movies-by-20th-Century-Lucasfilm_W0QQitemZ6441260441QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-3-Action-Box-Sets-Star-Wars-Die-Hard-Titanic_W0QQitemZ6442549847QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-1995-VHS-Gently-Used_W0QQitemZ6442666782QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-1995-VHS_W0QQitemZ6441458315QQcategoryZ309QQcmdZViewItem
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Looks like another great release, Dark_Jedi!
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I got the original THX 1995 pan and scan tapes, and DVD transfers of the same set in widescreen that were copied from the VHS that I got at a fair.
You can tell on e-bay, if its a good picture and you can read the back, under the credits it would say:

THIS FILM HAS BEEN MODIFIED FROM ITS ORIGINAL VERSION. IT HAS BEEN FORMATTED TO FIR YOUR SCREEN

Thats how you could tell.
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well i have them ALL burned and tested,i dont htink they look that bad(tested on a 62' hi-def DLP TV)but i will see what they look like on my 35' regular TV in the bedroom,they always look better on the smaller TV's for some reason,hell the 62' TV even makes some retail dvd's look like crap.
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I have a question DJ, is the "One last time" trailer on any of the DVD's? I love that trailer!
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no its not,if i had it,it would have though.
DJ
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
I got the original THX 1995 pan and scan tapes, and DVD transfers of the same set in widescreen that were copied from the VHS that I got at a fair.
You can tell on e-bay, if its a good picture and you can read the back, under the credits it would say:

THIS FILM HAS BEEN MODIFIED FROM ITS ORIGINAL VERSION. IT HAS BEEN FORMATTED TO FIR YOUR SCREEN

Thats how you could tell.
On the face of widescreen THX tapes there is a very thin strip at the top that actually says "WIDESCREEN." Also, the widescreen tapes were only sold as a set in a larger rectagular black box with Vader's face and the text "WIDESCREEN EDITION" on the front.
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
I have a question DJ, is the "One last time" trailer on any of the DVD's? I love that trailer!

The "One Last Time" promo (as well as other vintage SW home video promos) can be found on my bonus discs as well as the three part Lucas interview.

Excellent, job, DJ! Now we have accurate DVD representations of both the Definitive Collection set (Dr. Gonzo) and the Faces set! Thanks!!!
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Hoichi,it is the widescreen LD version,i dont have the P&S VHS tapes.
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Russ and segaflip your sets are on the way,and a BIG thanks to both of you guys for the great packages,it was like christmas here today.
Rowman and Rikter,your sets will be on their way very soon.
DJ
ps Russ,i especially loved the "surprises"thanks a bunch
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This project is definitely cool, as was the Special Collection. Lucasfilm must be scared of making the money that they'd rake in by putting out a pre-SE DVD set of some kind (any kind).

Pouring over captures from both sets, it's safe to say they both have their strengths and weaknesses.


Are the differences that notable, or are they more of the subtle variety? I've heard conflicting reports that the Faces and Def. Coll. were nearly identical because of each coming from the same source, as well as being different in spite of that alleged fact.
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Originally posted by: russs15
We never got the Faces covers in the UK which is a pity because they are the most striking ones on any official Star Wars release.

Consequently, they are my fave DJ transfer menu's by far.

I cannot wait to see them on the big screen and also get my first taste of a Faces set on DVD.

Yeah we did. I have them on VHS. And they are sitting in a cupboard because I really dislike the covers - I mean, Vader is ok, but a generic stormtrooper for Empire? Lame. And a gay photo of the inanimate Yoda puppet? Also lame. I also dislike the colour scheme. When it comes to Star Wars, it has to be the original 70s/80s art or something by drew struzan. That's no reflection on Dark Jedi though, it's not like he designed them, and it looks like he's done a great job of recreating them for DVD, which was his intention. I also like the addition on the AT-ATs and the Final duel etc. They really add something to the boring original images.

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I just went back and re-read the post. Looks like Rik made the covers. Nice one mate.

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OK Boba your set along with a bunch of other goodies,and "OUR NEW PROJECT" files Discs on the way to you.
DJ
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hi guys,does any one have or know where i can find images of the "Faces" VHS covers (NOT the widescreen)?
thanks in advance
DJ
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DJ, your title should be 'Preservation God'! Thanks for all the GREAT transfers, if you are looking for anything just email me.