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Precisely. The thread is called EU *Discussion.* It doesn't say you have to like them as long as you're not a jerk about dis-liking them.
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But the point is, that he just posted that He liked the OT novels and found the two EU novels he tried to read too boring to continue.

If you didn't read them, you can't discuss them.

It would be like me going to a "Casablanca" web board and telling people how much I hate that movie, after just getting boared within the first five minutes and turning it off.

But, like I said, Eightbit is free to do whatever. So let us continue.

Why did you find Heir to the Empire boring. (I started with Dark Force Rising, and never read Heir, so I really can't discuss that one.)

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Basically... I admit I didn't get very far in it, but from the onset it seemed more like a Tom Clancy novel than Star Wars. Now I like in-depth details and stuff, but I feel they're out of place in Star Wars.

I read a lot more of Splinter of the Mind's Eye than I did of Heir (I think I got at least one third of the way through), but it had Luke and Leia doing stuff I didn't feel was very true to their characters--willfully letting themselves be thrown in jail without a fight, for example, instead of having an all-out brawl. The plot was also a little slow, and many of the concepts it advanced are things I just don't see in Star Wars. So again, it just to me felt less like a Star Wars book and more like a book that just happened to feature the Star Wars name.
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Well, those are legitimate reasons.
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I dunno. Luke allowed himself to be taken by Vader/the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

I don't know what his intentions were for not resisting arrest in Splinter, but maybe it isn't so out of character for Luke.

And by extension, Luke rubbed-off on Leia, so she went along with it.

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To be fair, I also see what he means about the Mandalorian Trilogy, Boba Fett (a minor character in the saga already) is the minor character in his set of novels and the other characters are really not that interesting.
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Boba Fett is sort of overrated.

If some brave developer would sit down and make a Halo/MP caliber first-person game where you play as Boba Fett, then maybe he would become cool, but as of now, he is just a studid clone with cool armor.

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I think the whole mystery is why he is cool to people, which is why the Mandalorian Trilogy and Prequel backstory just fell flat.
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BTW, I'm about halfway through the Republic Commando game tie-in. And I have to say that for a game tie-in its pretty good, definitely worth picking up.
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I still havent had a chance to make it to books a million.

BTW, if you ever have the impulse to buy "War of Honor" by David Weber. Dont...

It is mind-numbingly political, and boring as all get out.

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I dunno. Luke allowed himself to be taken by Vader/the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

I don't know what his intentions were for not resisting arrest in Splinter, but maybe it isn't so out of character for Luke.

And by extension, Luke rubbed-off on Leia, so she went along with it.


But you must remember that in ROTJ he was specifically trying to get close to Vader in order to try and convince him to turn back to the good side. In that context, it makes sense--if he had fought his way in, he would've just ended up fighting and killing Vader, which isn't what he wanted.

In Splinter, he just decides the odds are more than he can handle. I guess some of the mistakes made in that book are forgiveable considering that it was written before Empire Strikes Back came out, but still things like this made it not feel like Star Wars to me.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I still havent had a chance to make it to books a million.

BTW, if you ever have the impulse to buy "War of Honor" by David Weber. Dont...

It is mind-numbingly political, and boring as all get out.


To tell you the truth, all sci-fi seems to be heading that way these days.

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Well, there's still StarWars,Trek, and Gate.

And GeneRodenberrie's Andromedia has quite a large amount of gratuitous violence.

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Well, you could argue that alot of Trek was mind-numbingly polititcal as well.
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Perhaps. The original Trek tended to deal more with philosophical issues rather than political ones though, like what it means to be human or how even the smallest screw up can have huge consequences.
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Yeah. There's a lot of 'talk' episodes in StarTrek, where problems are solved diplomatically... Plus, for ever Elementary Dear Data, there was a Best of Both Worlds to balance it.


But that isn't what I was talking about. There are literally pages of monologues in this book I gave up on reading about coups,queens,presidents,congresses, and various other things that normal people only reference passingly in conversation.

I swear the most interesting scene so far was a baseball game at the beginning of the second chapter...
AND I HATE BASEBALL!!!!!

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*adds this book to the burning list*
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I might find a way to sell it.

I might as well be recompensed for these 900 pages of boardome...

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Find a used book store, they'll usually give you store credit so you can find a better novel.
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965.2 pages of boredom, eh? Apparently. He's that bored that he came up with a decimal equivalent for that last page. Yikes. Remind me to stay away.

Just a note, you can try to sell it on Amazon.com Marketplace used.
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Anyway, has anyone picked up the new Yoda novel yet?
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They're making books about Yoda now?


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965.2 pages of boredom, eh? Apparently. He's that bored that he came up with a decimal equivalent for that last page. Yikes. Remind me to stay away.



The last page--966--has about half a paragraph on it. I couldn't count it as a whole page.

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The rest of the continuity that was out at that time was contradicted by Darksaber
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