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Estimating the original colors of the original Star Wars trilogy — Page 7

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This stuff is just amazing. You’re a miracle worker, Dre. Do you think you could use this on those 35mm frames from Raiders that you were using on your regrade? I’m curious how they would turn out.

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Re: patents, I suspect he’s not the first person to create such an algorithm, he’s just the first person to do it (presumably) for free, and also while not working for some corporate behemoth who looks at the natural, unfaded results and says, “That looks okay for a start, now let’s teal and orange that puppy!”

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Dre,

Just wonderful colors that you’re digging out of that!

Is it possible for you to post a shot of the opening star destroyer?..around the 2:20 time marker perhaps?

Great work as usual Dr!

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DrDre said:

Here’s a little experiment on a severely pink shifted frame of Star Wars that you would expect hardly contains any color information, but looks can deceive:

Unlike the other samples posted, I feel as though this correction could actually use a slight boost in contrast:

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dlvh said:

Dre,

Just wonderful colors that you’re digging out of that!

Is it possible for you to post a shot of the opening star destroyer?..around the 2:20 time marker perhaps?

Great work as usual Dr!

That shot is in pretty bad shape, but here’s one of the frames:

The first few minutes of the scan has the worst fading, with the left side of the frames more purple, and the right side more blue.

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DrDre, is it possible to create another algorithm that could estimate what the previous generation print would have looked like? We have the GOUT, the Tech IB scan, and the TN1 scans. I’m just wondering if it is possible to estimate what both a first run theatrical print and a studio presentation print would have looked like based on what we have available.

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DrDre said:

dlvh said:

Dre,

Just wonderful colors that you’re digging out of that!

Is it possible for you to post a shot of the opening star destroyer?..around the 2:20 time marker perhaps?

Great work as usual Dr!

That shot is in pretty bad shape, but here’s one of the frames:

The first few minutes of the scan has the worst fading, with the left side of the frames more purple, and the right side more blue.

Crazy what can be pulled out of it with a little work though.

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yotsuya said:

DrDre, is it possible to create another algorithm that could estimate what the previous generation print would have looked like? We have the GOUT, the Tech IB scan, and the TN1 scans. I’m just wondering if it is possible to estimate what both a first run theatrical print and a studio presentation print would have looked like based on what we have available.

I think it should definitely be possible.

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Darth Lucas said:
Crazy what can be pulled out of it with a little work though.

Here’s another challenging shot. The print is pretty bad during these early shots, with pretty uneven fading. Love that blue color on R2 though…

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Dumb question: is it really fading that’s the issue in blue frames like this? It’s not the scan or preliminary correction or something that happened in the duplication of the print?

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towne32 said:

Dumb question: is it really fading that’s the issue in blue frames like this? It’s not the scan or preliminary correction or something that happened in the duplication of the print?

I’m not sure. The scan quality improves significantly directly following the Stardestroyer shot, and is pretty consistent, aside from the really dark shots, which have no shadow detail. The color cast also changes from blue/purple to mostly blue. I guess we’ll find out, once williarob recieves the scan poita made.

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I think the blue weirdness is just how the scan came out, for whatever reason. In Mike Verta’s video “10 Minutes with an LPP”, he shows how his own scan of this same print can be corrected, and his version looked nothing that on the raw scan. It isn’t blue or dark at all, but just mildly green-shifted. So the print itself isn’t faded or weird, but the raw scans come out looking strange for whatever reason.

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DrDre said:

Darth Lucas said:
Crazy what can be pulled out of it with a little work though.

Here’s another challenging shot. The print is pretty bad during these early shots, with pretty uneven fading. Love that blue color on R2 though…

Thanks Dre!

Man…you gotta love that technicolor.

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Here’s a video sample of the SSE Grindhouse color corrected using the automated color correction algorithm:

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Edit: sadly something went wrong converting the file from raw to mp4, as this is how the video looks:

While this is the shot in the raw version as it’s supposed to look:

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DrDre said:

Here’s a video sample of the SSE Grindhouse color corrected using the automated color correction algorithm:

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Edit: sadly something went wrong converting the file from raw to mp4, as this is how the video looks:

While this is the shot in the raw version as it’s supposed to look:

Oh look! You’ve stumbled onto “how to take a good color film and create a Lucas film release sunburning faces for home video.” process. Color space conversion error? R2 probably doesn’t look right after conversion, so if you’ll add on more blue to fix him you’ll land at the official blu ray release! It sounds like I’m making fun but I’m not. I seriously think you just discovered what might have really happened.

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Very revealing Dre. It’s nice to see those rebel blue shirts, and the whites of the Tantive IV walls, among many other things.

Thanks for much for this!

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That looks excellent! Good work.

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Some shots would need a small manual correction, but overall it looks great. Can’t wait till the updated tool 😃

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Ah man, it feels like the 70’s in here!

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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As stated before, some shots could use some work, but this is a phenomenal starting point for color correction.

If the legacy screenshots aren’t ready by then, I would love if Harmy used this for reference on 3.0.

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Keep in mind, bulb matching is a thing. This is a great way to get the color on the print, but the color on the screen is the color on the print combined with whatever color bias the projector bulb has. So for a seventies bulb, we’re probably talking a little yellower. Not to diminish the importance of this in any way–this will be extraordinarily helpful, but maybe not the final word.

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