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So is anyone here planning on seeing the film adaptation of the book Eragon?
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For that matter, has anyone here read - or plan on reading - the original book of Eragon?
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I haven't read the book myself, but I'll probably see it anyway, even if ends up just being dismissed as a poor man's Lord of the Rings.
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Haven't read the book, but from what I've seen the movie looks fucking terrible.

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The book isn't the most original piece of literature ever, but it is a fun and compelling read and I can't wait for book 3. The film, IMHO, looks pretty good, though they did the dragon in the worst way possible. I'm seeing it Thrusday night at a press screening, and I'll post my review in this thread. I would disclose the link where my reviews are posted, but I don't want to give my real name out on a forum. A bit paronoid, I know, but you can never be sure.

Most of the casting on the movie is good, and I can't think of anyone better than Jeromy Irons to play Brom. Ed Speelers as Eragon....we'll have to see. The trailer doesn't make me all that hopeful. I've also heard the movie strays far from the book at some times, which is never a good thing. I'm hopeful, but hope doesn't make a great film, sadly. If it did, we'd all be singing the praises of the prequels.
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I'll probably see it since my girlfriend liked the book. I'll be interested to read your review Darth, just so long as you warn about spoilers.

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Soooooooo, the "audiences love high budget fantasy movies based on somewhat popular books only nerds used to read before this whole thing becomes popular" Hollywood way of thinking is not dead yet? And didn't Jeremy Irons learn anything from "Dungeons & Dragons"?
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I read the book and thought it was okay, but at the same time, I saw it for what it was: a fan-fic written by a D&D nerd. It's like these weird guys that sit in the corner of the library during break period every day playing Magic:The Gathering every day. A couple years after graduation, one of those little shits somehow gets a book published, and the rest of us think, "That little fucker wrote a book?!"

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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
Haven't read the book, but from what I've seen the movie looks fucking terrible.


I think Stinky might be right here. I haven't read the book either, but from watching the commercials, I still have no idea what the point of this movie is. It looks like to me its a CGI special effects spectacular with no plotline but plenty of CGI. Hasn't Hollywood figured out that cool special effects can't carry a no-plot movie?
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
I read the book and thought it was okay, but at the same time, I saw it for what it was: a fan-fic written by a D&D nerd. It's like these weird guys that sit in the corner of the library during break period every day playing Magic:The Gathering every day. A couple years after graduation, one of those little shits somehow gets a book published, and the rest of us think, "That little fucker wrote a book?!"


Triumph of the spirit, Nanner. Triumph of the spirit.
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The book definitely isn't original, that for one, but it is very entertaining.
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
I'll probably see it since my girlfriend liked the book. I'll be interested to read your review Darth, just so long as you warn about spoilers.


My reviews are much like those you'd find in the paper, only shorter. I don't use spoilers.
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A few years out of high school? The guy was 18 when he published the damn thing, and only because he ran around from school to school promoting his book to grade schoolers dressed like a peasant. It is a weird world we have here. Charles Dickens? Never read him. Paolini? Hell yeah I know Paolini, his books are fricken awsome. I went to see Casino Royale with my wife yester day, and the Eragon trailer came on, and my wife said that it looked cool. I laughted at her, and said it looks pretty retarded. And I am the guy whose crown jewel of his books case a leather bound copy of The Lord of the Rings. It looks like something an eighteen year old would write. Also Nanner comment about it being basically a D&D fanfic sheds a lot of light on it the whole thing. Funny stuff.

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IGN gave the film 2/5 stars, so it's apparently not very good.

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I just got back from the film, and yes, it sucked. Hard. (I'll post my review here tomorrow.) But please, do not take that as an indication of the quality of the novel. The book is, though fairly unoriginal, an excellent book, IMO. The movie omitts at least 80 percent of the novel, and the only person that does a good job acting is Jeromy Irons. (SPOILER ALERT) Sadly, Iron's Charecter, Brom, dies in the middle of the story, and from there the film falls apart. He was carrying the movie on his shoulder's, and the movie really starts sucking at that point. There is, from moment one of the movie, zero charecter development. It's sad, really. It was also only 100 minutes long. The book is 500 pages packed full of story.

I was hoping for this to be good. Irons did as I expected, giving an engaging and excellent preformence. Sadly, everything else fell far short of my expectations.

As I said earlier, I'll post my official review tomorrow. EDIT: I have the review done, but for certain legal issues, I'll have to wait until its posted on the site before posting it here. If it isn't posted on the site by my editor by tommorrow night, I'll go ahead and post it here.
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Watch the video interview on Amazon.com. I may have been more right about him than I thought.

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That kid needs a horny girl friend....and it would be good if he could stop with the nasal toned voice.....

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Whoa! IGN gave it two whole stars? I am shocked. It mist not have sucked half as bad as I thought it would.

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Originally posted by: vbangle
That kid needs a horny girl friend....


Considering much how money he has because of his book, I doubt that will be a problem.


(Edit: added the word "much.")

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Here's my review of Eragon, as I promised earlier. Keep in mind it was written for a kids site. I know many of you don't really like the book, but its one that I really love, despite it being fairly unoriginal in plot structure. I think that fact is very easy to overlook while reading it, for me anyway, and just enjoy the book.
BTW I went to the movie Deja Vu tonight, and when it was over I looked in on a showing of Eragon. The theater was packed. I guess the less than enthusiastic reviews haven't stopped the masses.

Eragon
(**) (Two Stars out of four.)


Last Cristmas season, I learned that two books that I loved would be hitting theaters in 2006. The first being Anthony Horowitz’ Stormbreaker, the first in the Alex Rider series, in the summer. Then, at Christmas, Christopher Paolini’s Eragon would hit theaters. I was thrilled. As I researched the films and the casting, saw pictures, and eventually watched trailers, I was slowly slipping into the mind frame that Stormbreaker would be awful and Eragon would be excellent. I’d always through Jeremy Irons as Brom would be perfect casting, and he was cast in the role. Ed Speelers as Eragon also looked promising. The casting of Stormbreaker looked simply awful.
Then I saw Stormbreaker this summer, and was pleasantly surprised at how good it was. Was it anywhere near as good as the book? No. Not at all. But it was an entertaining action film, and could have been much worse. But still, I patiently anticipated Eragon, my hopes still very high.
How wrong I was.
The book of Eragon, though fairly unoriginal in many aspects, is an excellent book, and so is its sequel, Eldest (part 3 will hit shelves next year). I heartily recommend both books.
The story of Eragon is that a young farm boy, Eragon, finds a blue polished stone in the forest while hunting. The stone is actually an egg, and it hatches into a dragon. Eragon becomes the new dragon rider. Dragon riders were warriors that protected the land and its people until the evil rider Galbatorix betrayed them and took over the land as King. Now Eragon, with the help of storyteller/wise-man Brom, must liberate the land before Galbatorix crushes it with his mighty fist of evil.
I thought that any movie based on the book would naturally be very good. Well, this is an example of when good books become bad movies. The core problem of the film is the horrible, no good adaptation. The book is 500 pages, each one packed with story, but the film is little over 90 minutes. Without even seeing the film, you know there’s a problem.
Roughly 80 percent of the book was omitted from the film. Changing and editing a story for a movie is a good thing, or else the movie doesn’t work. But 80 percent goes too far, especially when what remains of the story is simplified and changed.
Each and every character is horrendously under-developed. We do not get to know these characters. We never figure out what drives them, nor what their personalities are like, except for the old wise-man Brom, portrayed by Jeremy Irons. (More on that later.) The plot is under-developed, and many of the removals of plot parts create plot holes big enough to drive trucks through, and also effectively prevent the filmmakers doing Eldest without changing the entire plot.
There were some good choices in the adaptation. For instance, in the book, Eragon is attacked many times by King Galbatorix’s forces, but we do not find out who is sending them until the end. In the movie, we see Galbatorix and his flunky, Durza, directing the armies, and it works very well. John Malkovich plays Galbatorix, and does a fairly good job in his under five minutes of on screen time.
The acting is awful on everyone else’s part, except Jeremy Irons, who I have nothing but praise for. His acting is not just good, it is excellent, and he steals the show, taking the film and running away with it. He’s the reason this movie didn’t get one star.
A worldwide casting search was done to find the right actor for Eragon. And what we get is unknown Ed Speelers, blundering through the movie with strange and often disturbing facial expressions, awkward if not just awful line delivery, and the screen presence of a gerbil. If this is what a worldwide casting search yields, then maybe they should look in a smaller vicinity.
Arya, the elf maiden who Eragon saves, is portrayed by Sienna Guillory, who has very few acting skills. She thinks she can act though, and it comes off as an arrogant, strange, and below average performance. The character of Murtagh, a fan favorite, is criminally underused, only put in to the movie to make fans happy. In reality, it probably would have been better to leave him out if pleasing fans was the aim. He is so underused it makes you want to cry, and I never really was able to form an opinion on the acting of the character.
And yet my biggest gripe with the film is the execution of the dragon Saphira. The CGI was fairly impressive, but for some reason, they fashioned the dragon to look like an overgrown and deformed eagle. Feathers on the wings of a dragon? Who cares if it’s far from what Paolini described her as. That’s just weird.
Saphira is voice by Rachel Weisz, recently seen in the film “The Fountain.” She probably worked less than a day on the voice over, and obviously she did not care about making a good performance at all. She plays Saphira as somewhat of a protective mother/whiny teenager. Saphira is a powerful, strong presence, not a weak voice mothering type.
Saphira is treated by the writers as a little side character, almost just tagging along for the adventure. In the book, Saphira is just as important as Eragon. Dragons and their riders were two equal sides of a whole, dragons being equally sophisticated and intelligent as the other races like men, dwarves, or elves. But in the movie, Saphira is practically Eragon’s tool, his slave, who does what he wishes whenever he wishes it.
Another gripe is the ungodly cheesy and stupid ending. Eragon and Arya have a vomit-educing little chat before he rides into the sunset. It was painful to watch.
But after this came a twenty second pre-credits scene which was excellent, and I won’t give it a way. It sets up the Eldest film, assuming they make it. However, if I were Paolini, I would not let them do it unless he had almost absolute control on the script and the casting. Who cares about series continuity? I’d recast the whole darn movie.
I would not recommend seeing this if you’ve read the book. You will hate it. If you haven’t read the book, you may enjoy it. The families in the audience did. But most will find it very cheesy and stupid. I’d recommend buying and reading the book, which will last longer and will be much more enjoyable for all ages. But if you do see the movie, don’t take kids under 7. There’s some violence, though most of it happens with sound effects, another gripe I have with the film.
The books are fairly graphic and very violent. The movie is rated PG. Without seeing it, that should tell you something about the movie. The action is weak because all the violence is implied rather then shown, except in rare cases.
So in short, the book is better by about a hundred fold. But if you are curious, go and see it. You’ll find some entertainment value, if not soley from Iron’s excellent performance. However, most will probably walk out halfway through. I know I felt like it.
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Thank you for that review, you've saved me a bit of cash. I really need to read the rest of Eldest now.
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I'm sure you guys all seen this movie when it orginally came out in 1977, but then it was called "Star Wars".

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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Here's my review of Eragon, as I promised earlier. Keep in mind it was written for a kids site. I know many of you don't really like the book, but its one that I really love, despite it being fairly unoriginal in plot structure. I think that fact is very easy to overlook while reading it, for me anyway, and just enjoy the book.
BTW I went to the movie Deja Vu tonight, and when it was over I looked in on a showing of Eragon. The theater was packed. I guess the less than enthusiastic reviews haven't stopped the masses.

Eragon
(**) (Two Stars out of four.)


Last Cristmas season, I learned that two books that I loved would be hitting theaters in 2006. The first being Anthony Horowitz’ Stormbreaker, the first in the Alex Rider series, in the summer. Then, at Christmas, Christopher Paolini’s Eragon would hit theaters. I was thrilled. As I researched the films and the casting, saw pictures, and eventually watched trailers, I was slowly slipping into the mind frame that Stormbreaker would be awful and Eragon would be excellent. I’d always through Jeremy Irons as Brom would be perfect casting, and he was cast in the role. Ed Speelers as Eragon also looked promising. The casting of Stormbreaker looked simply awful.
Then I saw Stormbreaker this summer, and was pleasantly surprised at how good it was. Was it anywhere near as good as the book? No. Not at all. But it was an entertaining action film, and could have been much worse. But still, I patiently anticipated Eragon, my hopes still very high.
How wrong I was.
The book of Eragon, though fairly unoriginal in many aspects, is an excellent book, and so is its sequel, Eldest (part 3 will hit shelves next year). I heartily recommend both books.
The story of Eragon is that a young farm boy, Eragon, finds a blue polished stone in the forest while hunting. The stone is actually an egg, and it hatches into a dragon. Eragon becomes the new dragon rider. Dragon riders were warriors that protected the land and its people until the evil rider Galbatorix betrayed them and took over the land as King. Now Eragon, with the help of storyteller/wise-man Brom, must liberate the land before Galbatorix crushes it with his mighty fist of evil.
I thought that any movie based on the book would naturally be very good. Well, this is an example of when good books become bad movies. The core problem of the film is the horrible, no good adaptation. The book is 500 pages, each one packed with story, but the film is little over 90 minutes. Without even seeing the film, you know there’s a problem.
Roughly 80 percent of the book was omitted from the film. Changing and editing a story for a movie is a good thing, or else the movie doesn’t work. But 80 percent goes too far, especially when what remains of the story is simplified and changed.
Each and every character is horrendously under-developed. We do not get to know these characters. We never figure out what drives them, nor what their personalities are like, except for the old wise-man Brom, portrayed by Jeremy Irons. (More on that later.) The plot is under-developed, and many of the removals of plot parts create plot holes big enough to drive trucks through, and also effectively prevent the filmmakers doing Eldest without changing the entire plot.
There were some good choices in the adaptation. For instance, in the book, Eragon is attacked many times by King Galbatorix’s forces, but we do not find out who is sending them until the end. In the movie, we see Galbatorix and his flunky, Durza, directing the armies, and it works very well. John Malkovich plays Galbatorix, and does a fairly good job in his under five minutes of on screen time.
The acting is awful on everyone else’s part, except Jeremy Irons, who I have nothing but praise for. His acting is not just good, it is excellent, and he steals the show, taking the film and running away with it. He’s the reason this movie didn’t get one star.
A worldwide casting search was done to find the right actor for Eragon. And what we get is unknown Ed Speelers, blundering through the movie with strange and often disturbing facial expressions, awkward if not just awful line delivery, and the screen presence of a gerbil. If this is what a worldwide casting search yields, then maybe they should look in a smaller vicinity.
Arya, the elf maiden who Eragon saves, is portrayed by Sienna Guillory, who has very few acting skills. She thinks she can act though, and it comes off as an arrogant, strange, and below average performance. The character of Murtagh, a fan favorite, is criminally underused, only put in to the movie to make fans happy. In reality, it probably would have been better to leave him out if pleasing fans was the aim. He is so underused it makes you want to cry, and I never really was able to form an opinion on the acting of the character.
And yet my biggest gripe with the film is the execution of the dragon Saphira. The CGI was fairly impressive, but for some reason, they fashioned the dragon to look like an overgrown and deformed eagle. Feathers on the wings of a dragon? Who cares if it’s far from what Paolini described her as. That’s just weird.
Saphira is voice by Rachel Weisz, recently seen in the film “The Fountain.” She probably worked less than a day on the voice over, and obviously she did not care about making a good performance at all. She plays Saphira as somewhat of a protective mother/whiny teenager. Saphira is a powerful, strong presence, not a weak voice mothering type.
Saphira is treated by the writers as a little side character, almost just tagging along for the adventure. In the book, Saphira is just as important as Eragon. Dragons and their riders were two equal sides of a whole, dragons being equally sophisticated and intelligent as the other races like men, dwarves, or elves. But in the movie, Saphira is practically Eragon’s tool, his slave, who does what he wishes whenever he wishes it.
Another gripe is the ungodly cheesy and stupid ending. Eragon and Arya have a vomit-educing little chat before he rides into the sunset. It was painful to watch.
But after this came a twenty second pre-credits scene which was excellent, and I won’t give it a way. It sets up the Eldest film, assuming they make it. However, if I were Paolini, I would not let them do it unless he had almost absolute control on the script and the casting. Who cares about series continuity? I’d recast the whole darn movie.
I would not recommend seeing this if you’ve read the book. You will hate it. If you haven’t read the book, you may enjoy it. The families in the audience did. But most will find it very cheesy and stupid. I’d recommend buying and reading the book, which will last longer and will be much more enjoyable for all ages. But if you do see the movie, don’t take kids under 7. There’s some violence, though most of it happens with sound effects, another gripe I have with the film.
The books are fairly graphic and very violent. The movie is rated PG. Without seeing it, that should tell you something about the movie. The action is weak because all the violence is implied rather then shown, except in rare cases.
So in short, the book is better by about a hundred fold. But if you are curious, go and see it. You’ll find some entertainment value, if not soley from Iron’s excellent performance. However, most will probably walk out halfway through. I know I felt like it.


Sounds about right. But I didn't read this until AFTER seeing the film today. Oh well, live & learn.
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