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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 122

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This is starting to smell like an epic trolling event.

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I found it half laughable half disgusting but it wasn’t painfully out of place like Leias return from space death scene

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LukeWarmTaunTaun said:

I found it half laughable half disgusting but it wasn’t painfully out of place like Leias return from space death scene

When I saw that scene my first thought was that she was force pulling herself to the ship. Why any SW fan would think it was something else is beyond me.

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Creox said:

LukeWarmTaunTaun said:

I found it half laughable half disgusting but it wasn’t painfully out of place like Leias return from space death scene

When I saw that scene my first thought was that she was force pulling herself to the ship. Why any SW fan would think it was something else is beyond me.

No man I totally get that that’s what they were going for. It’s simply utterly ridiculous

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Creox said:

LukeWarmTaunTaun said:

I found it half laughable half disgusting but it wasn’t painfully out of place like Leias return from space death scene

When I saw that scene my first thought was that she was force pulling herself to the ship. Why any SW fan would think it was something else is beyond me.

Agreed. Plus the classic theme was a nice touch.

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when i saw the scene my first thought was “how the heck is she alive?”

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It’s possible to survive in space. No one complained about Dave surviving in a vacuum after he set off his explosive bolts in 2001.

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i’ve never seen 2001 and i bet i’d complain about that.

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You can survive direct exposure to vacuum provided you exhale as much as possible before decompression. Otherwise your lungs’ll rupture.

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Collipso said:

when i saw the scene my first thought was “how the heck is she alive?”

People have survived being exposed to the vacuum of space before. Also remember that she is surrounded by the air that got blown out of the ship, which she could have subconsciously kept around her using the Force.

What really strains credulity is someone surviving three of their limbs being hacked off and being barbecued beside a river of lava, or literally being cut in half and falling down a bottomless shaft.

Force users are weird like that.

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Collipso said:

i’ve never seen 2001

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Collipso said:

i’ve never seen 2001 and i bet i’d complain about that.

Kubrick had scientists on the production to make sure it was as realistic as possible.

To be sure, Dave knew damn well what he was doing was dangerous and that he very well could’ve died. But it’s not a foregone conclusion.

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NeverarGreat said:

Collipso said:

when i saw the scene my first thought was “how the heck is she alive?”

People have survived being exposed to the vacuum of space before. Also remember that she is surrounded by the air that got blown out of the ship, which she could have subconsciously kept around her using the Force.

What really strains credulity is someone surviving three of their limbs being hacked off and being barbecued beside a river of lava, or literally being cut in half and falling down a bottomless shaft.

Force users are weird like that.

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Creox said:

LukeWarmTaunTaun said:

I found it half laughable half disgusting but it wasn’t painfully out of place like Leias return from space death scene

When I saw that scene my first thought was that she was force pulling herself to the ship. Why any SW fan would think it was something else is beyond me.

I don’t have a problem with the scene conceptually, but something about it just feels, “Over the top,” if you will. Like I understand why they made it look like a tribute to Carrie Fisher before, “Surprise!” she’s still alive, but it doesn’t sit well in my stomach, as irrational as it may be.

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LukeWarmTaunTaun said:

NeverarGreat said:

Collipso said:

when i saw the scene my first thought was “how the heck is she alive?”

People have survived being exposed to the vacuum of space before. Also remember that she is surrounded by the air that got blown out of the ship, which she could have subconsciously kept around her using the Force.

What really strains credulity is someone surviving three of their limbs being hacked off and being barbecued beside a river of lava, or literally being cut in half and falling down a bottomless shaft.

Force users are weird like that.

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NeverarGreat said:

Collipso said:

when i saw the scene my first thought was “how the heck is she alive?”

People have survived being exposed to the vacuum of space before. Also remember that she is surrounded by the air that got blown out of the ship, which she could have subconsciously kept around her using the Force.

IMO the ‘Space Leia’ scene is problematic, because it is heavily switching between movie genres and their specific rules. The overall genre of the STAR WARS movies is science-fantasy. But the movie event of being sucked into space belongs mainly to the science-fiction genre. Being sucked into space is very well ‘documented’ in lots of sci-fi movies and even the dumbest movie-goer knows what happens to a character/person by that event. The rules are clear. But Rian Johnson tries to solve that science-fiction problem with the rules of the science-fantasy genre, let’s say magic, namely the Force. And that is why the scene does not work.

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Most movie depictions of exposure to a vacuum are complete baloney. Human beings aren’t water balloons. And movie rules are not etched on some stone tablets somewhere.
And again, Guardians Of The Galaxy doesn’t get the crap TLJ does over doing essentially the same thing. And don’t tell me that’s a hard sci-fi movie.

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yeah but when people get sucked into space after an explosion in Star Wars, they die.

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Collipso said:

yeah but when people get sucked into space after an explosion in Star Wars, they die.

example?

edit: and even if so, evidence they died instantly and couldn’t have survived if they could’ve used the force or some other tactic to pull themselves to safety?

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Collipso said:

yeah but when people get sucked into space after an explosion in Star Wars, they die.

There’s literally only one example of this in the films (ROTS) an that is not what happens. You’re making up a rule that doesn’t exist.

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well, if characters were to survive after an explosion and getting sucked to space, space battles would have no tension at all. not when force users are the pilots at least.

i do recall a clone wars episode where plo koon and three clones survive outisde for a very short period of time - and they explicitly say that plo koon survives because of the mask he uses and that the clones survive because of their armor.

and the kanan example shared above lasts for basically 5-10 seconds, and you can clearly see that he was almost, well, freezing to death already. i was under the impression leia was floating in space for a couple of minutes at least.

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Collipso said:

well, if characters were to survive after an explosion and getting sucked to space, space battles would have no tension at all. not when force users are the pilots at least.

i do recall a clone wars episode where plo koon and three clones survive outisde for a very short period of time - and they explicitly say that plo koon survives because of the mask he uses and that the clones survive because of their armor.

and the kanan example shared above lasts for basically 5-10 seconds, and you can clearly see that he was almost, well, freezing to death already. i was under the impression leia was floating in space for a couple of minutes at least.

No one is surviving a direct hit on a light fighter. This is different. A large space with many people. She was away from the windows. And so what if it was an anomaly. People unbelievably survive catastrophic accidents all the time in real life too.

Edit: also, IIRC, the sequence was not a couple minutes.

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