Peter Pan said:
I know DJ was wrong too, but the movie explicitly tries to make a compromise between DJ’s beliefs and the beliefs of the Resistance, resulting in the whole “save the things you love” scene, which was one of the worst scenes of the movie in my opinion. Throughout the movie, it felt like Rian was trying to make it seem like the heroes and villains should find a compromise, which doesn’t seem like a good lesson for a franchise all about the light always winning.
I’m not sure I understand. “Saving what we love” isn’t about finding a compromise. It’s about caring more for helping people than killing others. It’s the very ethos of the franchise. Selflessness, and all that. Vader takes down the Emperor not because of hatred, but because of love for his son. The Jedi defend what they love, the Sith attack using hatred to fuel them.
I get people not liking the line because it’s on the nose, but the message is very important. I don’t know what it has to do with DJ’s line.
That line creates an inconsistency in Rose’s character: earlier she was fighting what she hated (animal cruelty) by freeing the Fathiers at Canto Bight, and yet she stops Finn’s sacrifice and tells him that Saving What We Love™ is more important than Fighting What We Hate™, resulting in the First Order’s giant laser cannon blowing up the metal door.
Uh, wasn’t she explicitly saving what she loved by freeing the fathiers?
She still prevents Finn from sacrificing himself and indirectly allows the First Order to destroy the door. Yeah, I know that Finn’s speeder probably wouldn’t have completely destroyed the cannon, but it could’ve at least damaged some of it.
Just a little theorizing over here, please don’t take me too serious.
What if Finn would have had destroyed the canon? The FO would have brought another canon. The Rebellion was trapped inside the cave and did not knew about the natural exit until the critters disappeared, which were escaping the giant laser that blew up the main gate (fun how Finn is the one pointing this out).
It would still take at least a day to clean up the remains of the destroyed cannon, transport another cannon through hyperspace, and use those weird transport things to land it on Crait. While that was happening, the Resistance would have had plenty of time to find an escape route.
On another note, see how saving Finn, one single rebel, reinforces the theme of hope. Neither a dozen nor 400 will bring down the FO, but if all the oppressed people -like broom boy- rise as one there’s hope.
The Resistance was small, but it was the only real rebel group fighting against the First Order. Without them, the galaxy would have been under the First Order’s control far longer. And also, we know from TROS that Luke’s sacrifice had no effect on the oppressed people, so the war would have ended much sooner if Rose had allowed Finn to destroy that cannon.
I understand Rian’s intentions with the “saving what you love” scene, but I feel like the scene itself was way too contrived and ridiculous.