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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 121

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A term for cropping a widescreen movie to conform to the 4:3 aspect ratio of most televisions at the time. Those responsible would often pan the image from left to right or right to left in scenes where talking actors occupied the far sides of the frame.

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So hold up, is Rey leaping from a hanger, across space, to the Falcon?!

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OutboundFlight said:

TavorX said:

So hold up, is Rey leaping from a hanger, across space, to the Falcon?!

No, they are in the planet’s atmosphere.

Ah I guess you’re right, background looked more black on my phone compared to now just viewing it on my computer.

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I’m pretty sure it’s actually in space - Finn’s wearing some sort of breathing apparatus.

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Well it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen people survive briefly traversing the vacuum of space.

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At least Finn was nice enough to open the pod bay doors.

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“Open then pod bay doors, Finn!”

“I’m sorry, Rey. I’m afraid I can’t do that.”

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This view of Rey reminds me of the way Athena is often depicted. Athena was the Goddess of war, courage, and wisdom. It wouldn’t be a stretch to wonder if that isn’t the arc of her character at least as she’s been portrayed so far.

It’s also the first time they’ve shown her in a way that presents her physical beauty. I know these are family friendly films for the most part, so they’ve not really made an issue of how beautiful Ms Ridley is. This shot, however, is almost Greek Goddess-like with a chiton, off of one shoulder, being blown to the side in a way that accentuates her shape. A marked change from the scavenger tough girl we met a few years ago.

And yes, I’m aware I’m reading WAY too much into a one-second shot in a trailer. 😉

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FunkyDays said:

Your_friendly_Imperial said:
-Hyperspace was a separate dimension which did not directly interact with Real Space

“Traveling through hyperspace ain’t like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that’d end your trip real quick, wouldn’t it?”

I’m nitpicking of course, and how hyperspace works has changed a bit since the 70’s (though I doubt Lucas had any specifics in mind), but the general idea is that while in hyperspace if a ship gets close to a large gravitational mass, e.g. a planet, star, supernova, etc., then the ship would be knocked out of hyperspace and back into realspace (usually so close that the ship would have a slim chance of moving out of the way before it’s destroyed).

Not that SW really needs a scientific explanation, but most sci-fi or sci-fantasy tend to come up with explanations like this, otherwise travelling beyond light-speed would be very impractical as any small, random piece of junk in space would tear the ships apart.

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Broom Kid said:

I’m pretty sure it’s actually in space - Finn’s wearing some sort of breathing apparatus.

Well, it wouldn’t be the first time SW ignored physics and just slapped some mask on someone who should technically be in a vacuum; https://youtu.be/a1Om-662nUg?t=62

(PS. not that I’m complaining, if anything I think SW is more interesting when it emphasizes story and/or action than scientific accuracy.)

On the other hand, as RogueLeader pointed out, there has been SW content recently dealing with people being sucked into space in a more sci-fi-like manner; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZTZQgBKGKg

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Interesting how that version of a “somebody is spaced and uses the Force to pull themselves back inside a ship” scene is much better staged than the one in TLJ.

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It’s Star Wars. X-Wings fly as if in the atmosphere, make airplane noises, etc.
Doesn’t matter as long as it looks cool. The problem with Leia was that it didn’t look good, not the concept itself.

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ATMachine said:

Interesting how that version of a “somebody is spaced and uses the Force to pull themselves back inside a ship” scene is much better staged than the one in TLJ.

Yeah, I think the real problem with that scene was the shot. Had it been executed differently it would have been fine.

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OutboundFlight said:

ATMachine said:

Interesting how that version of a “somebody is spaced and uses the Force to pull themselves back inside a ship” scene is much better staged than the one in TLJ.

Yeah, I think the real problem with that scene was the shot. Had it been executed differently it would have been fine.

Agreed. And the billowing dress didn’t help.

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According to what science says, as long as you don’t try to hold your breath, nothing in the vacuum of space will kill you instantly. There is no exploding. What would happen first is freezing and asphyxiation. The scene in TLJ that keeps getting complaints actually (except for the use of the force) pretty well follows what science says would happen (the ice crystals were a nice touch, though perhaps not entirely realistic). And Leia’s use of the force is no different form when Luke grabbed his lightsaber in the Wampa cave, only Leia grabbed the ship and they nicely used Newton’s laws to make her move toward it instead of it toward her. And it really fits with where her character was going (before her untimely death) and where it is rumored he character will still go. One of the problems with Abrams method of story telling is he saves backstory to add later and reportedly, before she got pregnant, Leia was training with Luke.

So there really isn’t much problem with the shot of Rey jumping out of the hanger and to the Falcon. If you have a problem with that you must have a real problem with the shot in 2001. A vacuum just doesn’t kill instantly. That is a myth (and not the fun kind that Star Wars relies on).

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Perhaps it’ll seem silly to now, but I’m bowing out of spoileriffic discussion of IX. Once it seems to have gotten to the point where people have seen the finished film, it’s time. May not be true, but now is as a good a time as any.

PM me for links to my edits; apparently, some feel shy about this.

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TavorX said:

All I can think of:

Han Solo: No time to discuss this as a committee!

Princess Leia: I am not a committee!

Kathleen Kennedy: I care

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Boycotting Disney!!!

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yotsuya said:

According to what science says, as long as you don’t try to hold your breath, nothing in the vacuum of space will kill you instantly. There is no exploding. What would happen first is freezing and asphyxiation. The scene in TLJ that keeps getting complaints actually (except for the use of the force) pretty well follows what science says would happen (the ice crystals were a nice touch, though perhaps not entirely realistic). And Leia’s use of the force is no different form when Luke grabbed his lightsaber in the Wampa cave, only Leia grabbed the ship and they nicely used Newton’s laws to make her move toward it instead of it toward her. And it really fits with where her character was going (before her untimely death) and where it is rumored he character will still go. One of the problems with Abrams method of story telling is he saves backstory to add later and reportedly, before she got pregnant, Leia was training with Luke.

So there really isn’t much problem with the shot of Rey jumping out of the hanger and to the Falcon. If you have a problem with that you must have a real problem with the shot in 2001. A vacuum just doesn’t kill instantly. That is a myth (and not the fun kind that Star Wars relies on).

The Leia scene in TLJ wasn’t a bad idea, but it was shot really weirdly in a way that made Leia look like Mary Poppins.

Also, close your eyes at least when jumping into a vacuum, otherwise you might go blind.

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