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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
sorry jimbo gotta just totally disagree with everything you said...
especially about T3....
id hate to see your movie collection if you honestly think its better than T2...
“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK
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Originally posted by: miochza
Well, rik, alot of fans already had Revenge of the Sith in their minds for a while, it just hadn't been confirmed. So Lucas very well could have went online to find a title that his fans would like. Wait, that seems uncharacteristic of Lucas. Do something to please his fans? Nevermind then.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Lucas doesn't do things just because fans want it. Its called Revenge of the Sith because that is the best title for the movie. So was Attack of the Clones. Also Bossk I suggest seeing Terminator 3 its definutly better then the second part.
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I thought T3 was terrible compared to T2. The plot just seemed generic and done before. You like recent movies alot better than older ones don't you, jimbo?
No Terminator 1 is by far my favorite of the series. I could have liked Terminator 2 had it made any sense at all. Terminator 3s only problem is it carrys over some of Terminator 2s flaws. For example Arnold kills no one. He is the friggin Terminator he needs to kill. One of the biggest flaws of Terminator 2 was the fact Arnold was too human, too emotional, and had to take orders from some punk. In the third he is still the good guy but it less emotional and doesn't take orders. He acts alot more like a machine like he should have acted in Terminator 2. Still he was best as the villian. Though the worst thing about Terminator 2 was how it fucked with the first movies view on time travel. In Terminator 1 time travel is a circle of inevidibility. In Terminator 2 its a branching butterfly effect where things can be altered (either that or Kyle and the Terminator were lying). Terminator 3 appears to return to the first movies views on time travel which was a welcome plus. Also the T-1000 is scientifically possible. It mentions the T-1000 can't form complex machines. Yet he can see, hear, and talk. All of these require complex moving parts. I enjoyed the T-X more since its endoskeleton makes her far far more possible. Though it still makes no sense how either of them got through time. Also Terminator 3s got Kristanna Loken. Possibly the sexiest women alive. Who can forget her entrance from the time displacement equitment.
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Originally posted by: R2
Whoshew! For a second there I thought you were gonna say the new Apes movie was the best. I hated the new one. Total mind rot. The apes looked great but the whole thing just stunk. In my opinion. For me, there was really no good reason to remake that movie. The original was and will always be the best. I will say that neither film folows the book that closely. However, at least the original had characters that were in the book. Not one character in the new film was ever mentioned in the book. Burton really messed that movie up.
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Originally posted by: R2
Yep. $$$$$$$$$$ is the only reason that I can see for remaking that movie. The original is a classic. I'm always of the opinion that just because we can do something doesn't always mean that we should do something.
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Originally posted by: R2
Whoshew! For a second there I thought you were gonna say the new Apes movie was the best. I hated the new one. Total mind rot. The apes looked great but the whole thing just stunk. In my opinion. For me, there was really no good reason to remake that movie. The original was and will always be the best. I will say that neither film folows the book that closely. However, at least the original had characters that were in the book. Not one character in the new film was ever mentioned in the book. Burton really messed that movie up.
As for T2. It doesn't matter which version you see, they still kill Miles, blow up Skynet and destroy all of the Terminator chips. Therefore, logically, how can the machines rise? All traces of them have been destroyed. The only logical way for this to happen is if someone went back in time to before Miles was killed and stole the chip that Skynet had from the original Terminator. Now if that happened, then maybe, I could buy the story of T3. However, by traveling back in time to steal the original Terminator chip then that pretty much negates the events of T2. Sarrah's whole quest to stop Skynet in T2 becomes a mute point.
Also by your logic, if the future is unchangable, then why did they send the Terminator back in time to kill Sarah in the first place? If the future is unchangable then with or without Kyle's involvement or the Terminator's, John was going to be born and therefore become the leader of the human resistance. It didn't matter how many Terminator's went back in time to kill Sarrah or John, they were going to live to fulfill their destiny.
The future is the past. The past is the future. The whole thing gives me a headache.
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
oops..
i thought i was in the T2 vs T3 thread...
hehe
i still find that the ending to T2 through the dialogue and black road or the ending with sara at the park is the ending...
thats how i thought of it.... so giving us a sequel after you think its the end is always going to create conflict....
thats why im dreading Indy 4...
they should just leave it alone...
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I know Indy 3 had all of them riding into the sunset! Riding into the sunset! It's THE END for any story. If that is not closure, I don't know what is