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Episode I: The Phantom Strikes - TPM Edit by tehwallaby (* unfinished project *)

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I guess the time has come for me to make this thread. This is the first in a series of three edits where I will be editing the Star Wars prequels in line with my vision for the trilogy. These edits are primarily for myself, but if you don’t like something please tell me, I’d love to hear from you.

So, the first edit in this series will be The Phantom Strikes. For the sake of clarity I will update the lists below as I go.

Edits:

  • A lot of silly and unnecessary dialogue will be trimmed throughout (eg "There’s the blockade!" - Oh, really, do you think that might be a blockade?)

  • A new Sound Mix, complete with the redubs, and new sound effects.

  • Appearances of the Neimodians cut down to keep them shadowy and mysterious.

  • Scenes where Neimodians do appear may be redubbed, perhaps even in an “alien” language.

  • Qui-Gon Jinn’s lightsabre will be yellow.

  • Scenes with Jar Jar will be toned down, to keep his antics to a minimum.

  • Jar Jar may be redubbed, and his character changed to be more like Threepio.

A Basic Synopsis (with comments about the cuts):

Alternate Opening Crawl - Based off of this.

Negotiations - There are no shots of the Neimodians, you just see all of the Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan parts.

Cut straight to the invasion force on Naboo - Meeting Jar Jar cut to a minimum.

No Otoh Gungah, no planet core.

Dramatic rescue of the Naboo - A few small cuts here and there throughout, making this punchier and faster.

Running the Blockade - Again, trimmed throughout.

Landing on Tattoine - See above.

Visiting Watto’s Junkyard - Anakin’s lines cut to a minimum, as well as Jar Jar’s hijinks.

No fight with Sebulba.

Sheltering At the Skywalker Home - Small cuts, Threepio is built by Anakin but less dialogue by Anakin, conversation about slavery altered slightly, a lot of sections toned down to make Anakin a quiet, contemplative child.

The Podrace Sequence - Faster, punchier, more action and less shots of the actual racers. Just super-fast pods ripping around the track with explosions all around.

Anakin Beats Up Greedo - To show his dark side. Subtle use of Imperial March as foreshadowing.

This is as far as I have gone in the edit so far, and I’ll probably start over again when I have my better computer back and I can use my higher quality rips and better software.

Thanks to Bingowings, and everyone over in the Prequel Radical Redux Thread, along with your ideas, being able to post my ideas in the thread has helped me figure out my edit.

That’s all for now, but please respond to my ideas, I’d like to hear from you.

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tehwallaby said:

- A new Sound Mix, complete with the redubs, and new sound effects. Im sorry NEW sound effects, you think you can out do ILM ?

- Appearances of the Neimodians cut down to keep them shadowy and mysterious. They dont need to be shadowy and mysterious, they are a element in Sidious' plan. something to further his objectives. You already have Maul and Sidious doing the shadowy and mysterious thing.

- Scenes where Neimodians do appear may be redubbed, perhaps even in an "alien" language. People have tried this and it has yet to sound good. I wouldnt

- Qui-Gon Jinn's lightsabre will be yellow. why? Actually nvm, just dont do it.

- Scenes with Jar Jar will be toned down, to keep his antics to a minimum. This I support 100% though continual hatred of the prequels by fans and media alike make me like him more everyday, thanks everyone.

- Jar Jar may be redubbed, and his character changed to be more like Threepio.

 

A Basic Synopsis (with comments about the cuts):

Alternate Opening Crawl - Based off of this.

Negotiations - There are no shots of the Neimodians, you just see all of the Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan parts.

Cut straight to the invasion force on Naboo - Meeting Jar Jar cut to a minimum.

No Otoh Gungah, no planet core.

Dramatic rescue of the Naboo - A few small cuts here and there throughout, making this punchier and faster.

Running the Blockade - Again, trimmed throughout.

Landing on Tattoine - See above.

Visiting Watto's Junkyard - Anakin's lines cut to a minimum, as well as Jar Jar's hijinks.

No fight with Sebulba.

Sheltering At the Skywalker Home - Small cuts, Threepio is built by Anakin but less dialogue by Anakin, conversation about slavery altered slightly, a lot of sections toned down to make Anakin a quiet, contemplative child. All the above just sounds like another shreeding of the prequels by a fan. I am generally against taking things out of the movie, when I see it afterwards it just seems jarring to me. The Prequels dont need to have every moment cut up. Take fart jokes out yes please but the entire movie does not need to be put in a blender.

The Podrace Sequence - Faster, punchier, more action and less shots of the actual racers. Just super-fast pods ripping around the track with explosions all around. No one on the Earth complains about the length of the freeway chase in Matrix reloaded but everyone complains about the podrace. Leave it alone. Im an action junkey and I love and extended action sequence and so do all of you...and you know it.

Anakin Beats Up Greedo - To show his dark side. Subtle use of Imperial March as foreshadowing. I like all of the deleted scenes added back into the movie...with the exception of the waterfall one becuase it adds more Jar Jar, if someone could figure out how to add that back in without Jar Jar it would be awesome.

 

 My Two cents above in bold.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain.
"A myth is a religion in which no one any longer believes"...James Feibleman (1904-1987)
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Paint his ass out. Angel paints jar jar out very well. Ady was able to remove rontos so it shouldnt be too hard.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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AxiaEuxine said : No one on the Earth complains about the length of the freeway chase in Matrix Reloaded.

They do on my planet, I like the extended pod race for the actual race footage but I hate the wonky cartoon racers in the pods and the two headed announcer guy in any version they appear in. The extra Tusken/Jawa stuff is fine by me though.

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EyeShotFirst said:

Paint his ass out. Angel paints jar jar out very well. Ady was able to remove rontos so it shouldnt be too hard.

 

Even of you could paint out Jar-Jar in CG, who on earth are Qui Gon, Obi-Wan, Padme and Anakin meant to be talking to in numerous scenes, the invisible man, you can't just remove a character who's in most of the major plot scenes !!

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I wouldn't want Jar Jar painted out. When I first saw him on screen, before he opened his mouth, I had visions of a nervous, yet knowledgeable friend for the Jedi, like Threepio, that's what I'm aiming for with my edit.

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I like this approach!

Reminds me the little creature in Masters of the universe!

I hope to be done right :)

good luck


-Angel

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QUI-GON and JAR JAR pull themselves out of the mud. They stand watching the
war machine dissapear into the mist. JAR JAR grabs QUI-GON and hugs him.

JAR JAR : Thankyou sir, how will I ever repay you?

QUI-GON : Are you brainless? You almost got us killed!
JAR JAR : I'm speaking aren't I?
QUI-GON : The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get outta
here!
QUI-GON starts to move off, and JAR JAR follows.

JAR JAR : I'm staying, I need your protection.
QUI-GON : That wont be necessary.
JAR JAR : But master, I'm defenseless. I'm Jar Jar, who might you be?

In the distance, two STAPS burst out of the mist at high speed, chasing
OBI-WAN.

QUI-GON : I have no time for this now...
JAR JAR : Sorry master.

The two STAPS barrell down on OBI-WAN.

QUI-GON throws JAR JAR into the mud.

QUI-GON : Stay down!

His head pops up.

JAR JAR : We're doomed!

The two troops fire laser bolts at OBI-WAN. QUI-GON deflects the bolts
back, and the STAPS blow up. One-two. OBI-WAN is exhausted and tries to
catch his breath.

JAR JAR : Oh my, thankyou master! Again!
OBI-WAN : What's this?
QUI-GON : A local. Let's go, before more of those droids show up.
JAR JAR : More! What are you talking about?

OBI-WAN and QUI-GON start to run. JAR JAR tries to keep up.

JAR JAR : (cont'd) Masters, if your looking for the Queen, she would be in Theed.

They all stop.

QUI-GON : Can you take us there?
JAR JAR : Come to think of it, they don't think to kindly of my type in Theed.
QUI-GON : No??!

A PULSATING SOUND is heard in the distance.

QUI-GON : You hear that?

JAR JAR shakes his head yes.

QUI-GON : (cont'd) That's the sound of a thousand terrible things heading
this way...
OBI-WAN : When they find us, they will crush us, grind us into little
pieces, then blast us into oblivion! (this is my favourite line by Obi-Wan throughout TPM)
JAR JAR : Actually, I might be able to risk it...Quickly!

Not sure about the dialogue, this is from an online script. But you get the idea, hopefully.
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I love it! Still i dont like to act like a slave with the whole "masters" thing.

Yes a better jar jar :)

 

-Angel

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I really wanted to play up the whole life debt thing, so I threw in the "Masters" line, I'm trying to keep him submissive, but useful.

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I would like to see Jar Jar as an intellegent replacement for C3-PO. He already serves them so it could work. Just remove the MEESA lines. But Jar Jar with an English accent would work.

"Sir, Might I just add one thing? The Gungans aren't to keen on outsiders"

It is a line like that to make Jar Jar more likeable. Hell Threepio was annoying to the characters in the OT. So it could work still.

But what about the other gungans? They still say meesa. Of course the King can stay the same to show ignorance in control sort of like the Bush presidency in the states.

Wait "EPIPHONY"

Jar Jar could be banished for his intellegence. He may have insulted the king with his large words. Part of the reason the king could hate DA NABOO is because THEY THINK THEY SO SMART. Yes Yes Yes. Forget changing the other gungans. That is how it will work.

Sorry I type as I think, so I have an epiphony in the middle of some of my posts.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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That's awesome! I was going to cut out the Otoh Gunga scene, but your ideas might make it run better. Mind if I borrow this for The Phantom Strikes?

By the way, if anyone has/can put on a Welsh accent, and would like to be the voice of Jar Jar, could you please send me a sample of your voice, perhaps doing the lines above, so that I can see how you go?

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Oh hell yes. My ideas have better use to others because I dont have the time or the energy to make my own edit. Take that idea and have fun with it. I could make Jar Jar Binx sound scottish LOL.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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tehwallaby said:
QUI-GON and JAR JAR pull themselves out of the mud. They stand watching the
war machine dissapear into the mist. JAR JAR grabs QUI-GON and hugs him.

JAR JAR : Thankyou sir, how will I ever repay you?

QUI-GON : Are you brainless? You almost got us killed!
JAR JAR : I'm speaking aren't I?
QUI-GON : The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get outta
here!
QUI-GON starts to move off, and JAR JAR follows.

JAR JAR : I'm staying, I need your protection.
QUI-GON : That wont be necessary.
JAR JAR : But master, I'm defenseless. I'm Jar Jar, who might you be?

In the distance, two STAPS burst out of the mist at high speed, chasing
OBI-WAN.

QUI-GON : I have no time for this now...
JAR JAR : Sorry master.

The two STAPS barrell down on OBI-WAN.

QUI-GON throws JAR JAR into the mud.

QUI-GON : Stay down!

His head pops up.

JAR JAR : We're doomed!

The two troops fire laser bolts at OBI-WAN. QUI-GON deflects the bolts
back, and the STAPS blow up. One-two. OBI-WAN is exhausted and tries to
catch his breath.

JAR JAR : Oh my, thankyou master! Again!
OBI-WAN : What's this?
QUI-GON : A local. Let's go, before more of those droids show up.
JAR JAR : More! What are you talking about?

OBI-WAN and QUI-GON start to run. JAR JAR tries to keep up.

JAR JAR : (cont'd) Masters, if your looking for the Queen, she would be in Theed.

They all stop.

QUI-GON : Can you take us there?
JAR JAR : Come to think of it, they don't think to kindly of my type in Theed.
QUI-GON : No??!

A PULSATING SOUND is heard in the distance.

QUI-GON : You hear that?

JAR JAR shakes his head yes.

QUI-GON : (cont'd) That's the sound of a thousand terrible things heading
this way...
OBI-WAN : When they find us, they will crush us, grind us into little
pieces, then blast us into oblivion! (this is my favourite line by Obi-Wan throughout TPM)
JAR JAR : Actually, I might be able to risk it...Quickly!

Not sure about the dialogue, this is from an online script. But you get the idea, hopefully.

 

I did a cut of Phantom, and used Spanish for Jar-Jar (kinda like  the Magnolia edit.) But anyway, I made him more of a sarcastic character... This movie really needed someone to mouth off now and again. I never released the edit, because I cut so much out, because I find so much of the movie annoying that after I was done, even though it was far less obnoxious, it was just a really boring movie. Anyway, that was just a suggestion, maybe the 3P0 thing could work here.

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Another edit I'm probably going to make is the Battle Droids, I'm going to have them speak like in Mag Fan's edit, except when talking to organics, and when they speak Basic it will be a different voice.

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Yeah... But the less they talk the better IMO. I agree with the poster who said that it makes more sense that they don't speak as they are remotely controlled. Wouldn't they all know the same stuff at the same time?

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Back in 1963 when the Daleks first turned up on Doctor Who they had to figure out a way of showing which Dalek was speaking, they already had the lights on the top so their elegant solution was to have them flash on and off in time with the dialogue.

You could do this with the battledroids, add one colour light for recieving orders from the central computer (maybe with a tiny computer chat sound like the probe droids have) and another colour light flash on in the rare occation that they actually speak (hopefully in a more menacing voice).

The little aerial on their backs may be a good location for this or in the case of the Super-Battledroids on their chest.

They certainly don't need to chat to each other if they are all getting their orders from the same source.

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Bingowings said:

Back in 1963 when the Daleks first turned up on Doctor Who they had to figure out a way of showing which Dalek was speaking, they already had the lights on the top so their elegant solution was to have them flash on and off in time with the dialogue.

You could do this with the battledroids, add one colour light for recieving orders from the central computer (maybe with a tiny computer chat sound like the probe droids have) and another colour light flash on in the rare occation that they actually speak (hopefully in a more menacing voice).

The little aerial on their backs may be a good location for this or in the case of the Super-Battledroids on their chest.

They certainly don't need to chat to each other if they are all getting their orders from the same source.

 

That would be interesting... And not too hard to do either.

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The way I've always imagined it, is that all the droid commanders and the like were sent the orders, and they relayed it on to the battle droids.

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Well, like I always say, do the edit the you would want to see. =)

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I'm just unsure of what kind of effect I'm going for. I was thinking a fast, random, cilck track, over the top of white noise that has a "Wahwah" effect applied, but I'm having trouble generating a random click track. Does anyone have any ideas as to that?

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I don't think an accent is the best idea... even though a Welsh accent is obviously less annoying then the voice he currently has, I think something like that could still make him sound too silly.  Perhaps a voice in the style of a child?  I mean, I believe in the original draft the Gungans were more like those: curious, and with a touch of innocence.  Jar-Jar should reflect that.

also, if I may weigh in on the "master" debate: perhaps try sir, or lord?  I think lord may work quite well.  It's more a sign of great respect rather then slave-to-master.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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Sir and lord both sound like good alternatives, once I have a voice picked out, I can start working on the dialogue itself, beyond these initial plans. I'm looking at finding an arrangement of the opening theme that goes for 2 minutes, as my crawl is longer than the original. I've also worked in the Imperial March at various places, first in scenes with the droid invasion, and then again in several scenes with Anakin.

I've found a way to record the Neimodian lines, the alien language is in the vain of this:

Nupwaw, guz ajuk nij, huv pes bur adimjif, mukfostiv buhihweh kejcudkeh nip.

(Of course, as you know our blockade is legal, we'd be happy to have the ambassadors.)