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Episode I: The Eyepainter Fanedit * v3 1080p and 720p now online * (Commentary a WIP) — Page 5

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Got my file exported and tested. Overall, the color grading turned out to be pretty much the same except for one difference. I reduced the reds, and I placed more emphasis on the greens. Surprisingly, this made the edit look more cinematic, especially during the Naboo scenes. It also made skin tones look better, specifically on Tattooine. I did notice some inconsistencies here and there, so I still have work to do, but I think it’s looking good.

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Okay, I’m a jerk. I’ve been so caught up with Christmas this week (and being with the family) that I didn’t get to work on tweaking the color grading. I’ve just worked on making the color grading more consistent and I’m going to do another test to see that everything’s been taken care of. If everything works out, I’ll be releasing v2. (Although I’m still disappointed that I wasn’t able to do the commentary track. I’m getting to it, and I’ll release that version as 2.1 when I can fix the audio quality.)

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Okay, I’m an even bigger jerk. Who would’ve thought that Christmas was gonna get in the way of working on my fan edits? I’m getting to it, folks. I’ll see if I can get v2 tested for real this time. (Whilst juggling over the family, that is. That’s what’s been delaying me so far.)

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Finally! Finally, I got to escape from my relatives. Yeah, sorry it took so long to get back, but I should be free of distractions now. Anyway, while I was dealing with the relatives, I learned how to use the curves on Resolve. Let’s just say I’ve gotten spoiled by them. So much so that I’m grading it again. I promise this is the last time I’ll play with the color grading for v2. Then, I’ll release it.

In other news, I’ve got a few updates. I got some money from my mom’s life insurance for Christmas. So, I spent some of that money on a Mac Pro and I’m hoping to switch all of my editing work towards that computer instead. I expect that it will be very useful for my fanedits in the future (I’m confident that episode III is gonna be completely edited on this Mac).

I also bought a new microphone, since the one I was using for my commentary is a cheap pile of garbage (which is why my commentary track still hasn’t been completed). I will be working on the commentary track as soon as either 1. The microphone arrives and/or 2. v2 is released.

In addition, I’m considering buying an external blu-ray drive, so that I can rip the transfers from my blu-ray discs. This would give me a good chance of submitting my edits to fanedit.org, which is something I’ve wanted to do. However, this is going to be a while, and I still prefer the Schormann files over the blu-ray discs (especially Episode I for the film grain and muppet Yoda). But, for those who are curious, I will probably call the blu-ray rip v3. So yes, a lot of interesting things are about to happen soon. For now, though, I want to devote myself towards finishing up v2 within this month, because I’ve delayed it long enough. Hang in there, folks! V2’s a comin’.

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My Mac Pro has arrived. I’ve been spending some time getting it set up. I still have a lot of stuff to take care of, but the basics are looking good. However, my Mac is distracting me from completing v2, so I’m going to take a break from getting things taken care of with my Mac and go straight to finishing up v2. It’s been a long and exhausting journey, but I want to get it finished ASAP. I still have a lot of work at my day job, but I’m hoping to finish v2 within the next couple of weeks.

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Just giving out an update. I’m two-thirds of the way through color grading with curves. I’ve made it through Tattooine and I’m working on the Coruscant scenes.

Things are going slowly but surely. I did say that I was giving episode I a green tint, but due to the Tattooine scenes, I’ve lifted up the blues in order to make the sands less greenish. I’m curious to see what the reactions will be, but I’ll take the blues and greens over the reds we got on the blu-ray.

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Going through the final stretch on the color grading. I’m going to make two final adjustments, and then, I think v2 will be close to ready.

The adjustments are simple, but effective. I’m adjusting the “hue vs sat” and “hue vs lum” controls. Desaturating the red, green, and blue colors and saturating the yellow, cyan, and magenta colors. This will make v2’s color scheme more film-like and desaturated since a lot of 35mm films use a yellow, cyan, and magenta color process instead of RGB.

I got an external blu-ray drive for my birthday, and I ripped my blu-rays for the prequels onto my new mac. (And yes, these are the rips I intend to submit to fanedit.org for v3.) I tested out the “hue vs sat” and “hue vs lum” on the new episode I rip and I can testify that it already looks better than the blu-ray discs. (Especially with the loss of the ugly red tint that was in there originally. Yuck.) I’m confident the same results will apply to v2.

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Not sure about a clip, but I could attempt uploading screenshots again. Still ignorant on how to upload them on this forum, though.

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Under the expand tab, you will find thumbnails demonstrating the color differences between v1 and v2. In the examples below, v1 is on top, and v2 is on the bottom.

Most of you will notice that the contrast is lower on v2. This is normal. V1 was adjusted under the wrong black and white levels, and I incorrectly placed the blacks and whites too low and too high. On a 1080p HDTV, the black and white levels on v1 suffered from clipping. V2 has been adjusted to correct that problem. The contrast should look much better if you watch it on a 1080p HDTV.

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I’ve just gotten through the hassles of exporting and converting for v2, and I’m planning to test the new MKV file either today or tomorrow. If everything looks good, I will be releasing v2 very soon (hopefully within this week). It’s been a wild and crazy ride finishing v2, but I think it’s ready for release.

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Just finished testing v2. I like what I see, and I’m gonna release it tomorrow. PM me for the link.

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V2 is now available. PM me for the link.

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I’ve been getting a few negative responses to the color grading on v2 so far, and I suppose I need to address the elephant in the room. Namely the green tint.

My reasoning behind the decision to give Episode I a green hue was more or less a reaction to the overuse of reds on the blu-ray releases. I have no idea why George Lucas is so insistent on making everyone’s faces sunburned, but whatever the reason, I wasn’t satisfied with it. So when I did the color grading for Episode I, I wanted to reduce those reds as much as possible. I also went ahead and increased the blues and greens, with green being slightly more saturated than blue.

However, as someone else has said to me, this doesn’t work so well in certain areas of the film. Namely the Tattooine scenes, since the planet doesn’t look right with a greenish tint on it. So I’ve come to the difficult decision of going back and taking care of the color grading again. My main focus is still going to be on Episodes II and III for now, but I’m going to work on changing the color grading for Episode I on the side (or at least, when I have the time).

So, I’m bringing the reds back again, but since I still hate those reds, my strategy is to desaturate the color this time around. I’m still going to keep the yellow, cyan and magenta adjustments I made to the hue vs. sat controls, but I’m also going to adjust the lum vs. sat controls and desaturating the shadows as well, giving an even more film-like image. I will also be keeping my fancy-schmancy tinting to a minimum, only adjusting the red, green, and blue channels to keep the image broadcast safe. And I’m topping it all off by lowering the dynamic range on the blue channel, reducing the brightest blues while raising the darkest blues. Here’s what v2 looks like now:

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And here’s my new adjustments for the moment:

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I’m also thinking of using these new adjustments for my edit of Episode II as well.

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Color grading is about 25% complete as of this posting. My mind is still on Episode II right now (although it’s almost done).

However, there’s something that’s been on my mind with my episode I edit lately, and it’s the ending. For the three of you who don’t want spoilers, I’ve placed the big stuff down in the expand tab below.

When I started work on episode I, I didn’t know how to rearrange scenes. However, with episode II, I got myself quite an education in rearrangement. I bring this up because as of v2, the ending to episode I is arranged just as it was theatrically, with no alterations to the timeline of the four plotlines (except when something was cut out, of course). This is especially true when the sequence is Anakin destroying the droid control ship, the gungans celebrating, and Obi-Wan killing darth maul. However, I mentioned that my main influence on episode I was l8wrtr’s edit, and for those of you who need a refresher, the sequence in l8wrtr’s edit is Obi-Wan killing Darth maul, anakin destroying the control ship, and the gungans celebrating, which to me, is a far superior sequence.

All of this is to say that I’m thinking of going back and redoing the ending. I know it’s late, but knowing what I know now, I’d like to get the four endings rearranged in a more complete fashion. My mind is still preoccupied with episodes II and III, but I will most likely change the sequencing of the ending to episode I (in addition to the color grading and audio commentary track) in future versions.

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I’m currently taking a break from editing now that I’ve completed Episode II, so I think now is a good time to talk about what I’m planning on doing to the ending of Episode I.

The current versions I’ve released for the ending of Episode I are more or less the same as they were theatrically. Under the spoiler tag, I have written down the placement of the scenes as they currently stand.

Gungan army intro
Palace siege intro
Space battle intro
Gungan battle begins
Darth Maul intro
Destroyer droid obstacle
Lightsaber battle begins
Anakin enters the ship
Lightsaber battle continues
We don’t have time for this, captain.
Gungan battle continues
Anakin in battle
Jedi get separated
Gungans retreat
Padme gets captured
Anakin gets hit
Qui-Gon dies
Gungans surrender
Your little insurrection is at an end, your highness.
Obi-Wan fights Darth Maul
Anakin destroys the control ship
Gungans celebrate
Darth Maul dies

However, I wasn’t satisfied with it. I mentioned that my main influence for Episode I was the l8wrtr edit, and I wanted the ending to follow a similar (albeit somewhat differently timed) direction. Here’s a rough draft of the new scene placement I’d like to do in the spoiler tag below.

Gungan army intro
Palace siege intro
Space battle intro
Gungan battle begins
Darth Maul intro
Destroyer droid obstacle
Lightsaber battle begins
Anakin enters the ship
Gungan battle continues
Lightsaber fight continues
We don’t have time for this, captain
Anakin in battle
Jedi get separated
Gungans retreat
Padme gets captured
Qui-Gon dies
Gungans surrender
Anakin gets hit
Obi-Wan fights Darth Maul
Your little insurrection is at an end, your highness
Darth Maul dies
Anakin destroys the control ship
Gungans celebrate

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I have a major update. The computer I was using to edit Episode I had an “accident” and I lost my project folders. I still have v1 and v2 on a flash drive (Thank God), but as for all of my updates, I’ve lost them.

I’ve decided to take this as an opportunity to re-edit Episode I on my Mac using the blu-ray rips I mentioned previously. This re-edit will more than likely be acceptable for fanedit.org, since I’m using a transfer from an official release. However, for those who may be concerned about CGI Yoda, I’m working on downloading the schorman file of episode I to my mac, so that I can replace all CGI Yoda shots with puppet Yoda shots. So I will try to preserve that aspect of Episode I.

And no, I haven’t forgotten about what I said about restructuring the ending. That’s still going to happen. I also bought a better microphone, so I will finally (fingers crossed) get that commentary track recorded like I promised. This one’s connected to my Mac, so it won’t be too complicated setting it up.

Right now, I have to focus on completing my Episode III edit, but I will get to re-editing Episode I immediately once I’ve completed it.

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I have finished Episode III (for now), so I am beginning work on the re-edit starting tonight. I will bring in updates when I can, although I intend to let this one follow closely to what v1 and v2 was like (although the restructured ending, color grading, and audio commentary are still going to be new). Most of my efforts will be spent on polishing up things. That is, cleaning up a few mistakes and odd decisions I made from the last two versions. Still, if I decide to make another editing change, I will throw in an update.

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Update time!

So, as it turns out, I’ve changed things a little more than I expected. It’s still around the same length (only 92 minutes), but I’ve made a few improvements (or at least, what I hope to be improvements).

First, let’s talk about everybody’s favorite character, Jar Jar Binks. Now, when I first started out on this editing journey, I was trying to get rid of Jar Jar Binks as much as I could. A relatable cause, no doubt. Unfortunately, I might have taken out a few too many things associated with him. In v1 and v2, I took out Jar Jar’s first shot. A.K.A. this one:

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I’m bringing this shot back for v3, because in v1 and v2, he just appears at random. I’m not doing it because I’ve suddenly softened up to Mr. Binks. Far from it. He’s still a terrible character, but alas, he is a character. One who has a part to play in this movie. Giving him no introductory shot at all feels… Off.

Another shot I’m bringing back is this one:

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This was another shot I deleted in v1 and v2, and looking back, I have no idea why I cut it beyond the fact that Jar Jar is center stage in this shot (If you’re panicking, rest assured that “How wude!” is still on the cutting room floor). Having this shot of the guards is necessary to establish Jar Jar’s arrest.

Let’s get away from Jar Jar now. I’ve reinserted Qui-Gon’s line “We are ambassadors for the supreme chancellor.” Originally, I wanted to make Queen Amidala the person who sent Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon as ambassadors for Naboo. This was an attempt to try and water down the political stuff and make it less important to the plot. Unfortunately, the mentions of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon being sent by Chancellor Valorum were all too frequent. This particular line transitioned the moment where Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are rescuing Amidala to the moment when they discuss the outcome of the negotiations. Taking it out turned that transition into a cut. A cut that seemed oddly placed. So, I admit defeat on this, and I’m bringing it back. I will also be rewriting the crawl so that Valorum sends the jedi for this reason as well.

I know this was a l8wrtr inspired moment, but looking back on it, Qui-Gon’s telling the droid that he’s taking people to Coruscant is kinda dumb. All that happens is the obvious. The droid responds with “You’re under arrest!” and Qui-Gon slices him away. So, to raise the IQ of this film, I decided to just remove the conversation altogether, let Obi-Wan walk up to the droids, and then cut to Qui-Gon slicing a droid. I’m not sure if that’s the jedi way, but by this point, it’s obvious that negotiations are over.

Then, there’s the pod race. The pod race was the hardest scene to edit for Episode I. Specifically in the start and finish of the race. The beginning was especially awkward on v1 and v2. All I did was keep the opening shot of the podrace, then I cut away to the flags. A lot of this is because I had no idea how sound editing worked. So my approach was just to delete anything with a bad line of dialogue. Knowing what I know now, I can easily remove any dialogue I hate from the following shots and put them in without any problems, giving the scene a little more room to breathe:

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And if you’re still upset that I added in more Jar Jar, you can breathe a sigh of relief that I also removed a bit of Jar Jar for v3 as well. I’ve taken out the gasp Jar Jar made during the pod race as a reaction to Anakin’s pod spinning out of control. At the time, I thought that the moment needed a cutaway because the next shot was similar, but after having edited the whole prequel trilogy, I’ve made an observation. I can just remove Jar Jar’s reaction and the next shot and it works seamlessly. Now, the pod race has no reactions from the characters in the sidelines.

However, I think I need to address the announcer guys. Since I was doing what I could to remove every last thing associated with them (Once again, due to l8wrtr), I might have gotten a little too perfectionistic about it. I was going so far as to be disappointed that I couldn’t really take out a line like “Start your engines!” even though, in context, it’s totally necessary. So, I’m just going to let some of their lines slip, but only in the background. We still never see them visually. It also means that the starts of laps 2 and 3 are in a little more too. Lap 3 didn’t exist at all in v1 and v2, so I suppose it’s a good thing I’m reinstating them.

The next thing I’ve done is reinsert Yoda’s line: “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.” I removed it due to Mr. Plinkett’s reviews of the prequels (Which I still recommend, but only if you’re a responsible adult). Here’s his criticism of the line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot4PccEafW0

While I do get where he’s coming from, looking back, I’ve noticed that this line is one of the more popular lines from the prequels. And it’s one of the few things in the movie that actually had some form of depth, which is why it’s memorable. In context, it’s a line that demonstrates an all-too-human truth that fear can lead us in the wrong direction. Sorry Mr. Plinkett. Please don’t kill me.

Now, for the big one

As I’ve said, I’ve restructured the ending. By now, that isn’t gonna be a surprise if you’ve been following this thread a while. However, I’ve done another major restructure. I’ve swapped two scenes and switched them around. Scene 1: Amidala’s decision to return home. Scene 2: The jedi council’s rejection of Anakin. Now, Anakin’s rejection comes first and Amidala’s decision to leave comes up soon after. This little switcharoo fixes a major structural problem in the plot and establishes that the jedi council’s rejection of Anakin is the film’s lowest point in the second act, and therefore, Amidala’s decision to leave for Naboo is the springboard for the film’s third act. It also means I can remove the jedi telling Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to go with the queen to Naboo as it hasn’t happened from a continuity standpoint. Plus, we lose a lot of useless exposition (Because obviously, these two jedi are just going to throw the queen under the bus after everything that’s happened to them unless the council tells them to go. Makes perfect sense).

Anyway, that’s most of what I’ve changed from v1 and v2 for now. Hopefully, those are all the biggest changes I plan to make. I’ll send an update if anything else comes up.

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I guess now would be a good time to talk about the color grading. I’m juggling between not one, not two, but THREE different grades right now. Yeah, my apologies if this post is long due to a bunch of jpeg’s, but it’s understandable.

I’m just gonna get to the point and explain all three grades. Grade #1 uses the same techniques I used in grading Episode III, in that I used the HDR color wheels to adjust it to whatever looked best. I’m calling this one the Episode III Grade, and in the three examples, it’s the one on top. Here’s the first still for the Episode III grade:

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Grade #2 takes on a different approach. I’ve been stubbornly trying to make the prequels as film-like as I possibly can because of how overly clean and digitized the prequels are. I’m going to call it the theatrical grade for this reason alone, and in the three examples, it’s the one in the middle. Here’s the first still for the theatrical grade:

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Grade #3 takes a similar approach to the theatrical grade. However, the theatrical grade was done using the standard color wheels, while grade #3 uses the HDR color wheels instead. HDR theatrical grade is a mouthful, so I’m going to shorten the name and call it the HDR cinema grade. In the examples, it’s the one on the bottom. Here’s the first still for the HDR cinema grade:

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So, to recap, Episode III grade is the top example, theatrical grade is the middle one, and the HDR cinema grade is the bottom. To see all three comparisons, click on the expand button below. Which one looks best to you?

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Hi Eyepainter, The Naboo and Tatooine scenes look bette with #2 theatrical grade but I do prefer #3 HDR Cinema for the other scenes. Sorry that’s probably not that much help,bjust my personal opinion 😁.

P.S really looking forward to seeing your new edit of this👍.

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I think 3 is a bit too contrast-y, especially in the darker scenes. 1 has a softness to it that looks really nice, but if you want to put a consistent grade across all shots instead of manually adjusting each one individually (aka: a nightmare), I think 2 gives the best happy medium across all scenes.

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Atom-88 said:

Hi Eyepainter, The Naboo and Tatooine scenes look bette with #2 theatrical grade but I do prefer #3 HDR Cinema for the other scenes. Sorry that’s probably not that much help,bjust my personal opinion 😁.

P.S really looking forward to seeing your new edit of this👍.

Came here to say this. #3 is my favourite across the board, except for a couple of all-desert shots which I think are a little overexposed.