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looks like more Yoda, but doesn't make the movie better...

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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
He just looks so much more serious as CG. That's why I want CG Yoda in ESB and ROTJ.


What the f***! come on! GL has so many bad ideas, don't give him new ones!

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how can anyone say if they like it or not, it's a still image, even though he looked stupid yoda in episode 1 put in a good performance, if they don't get the character right it will be a bad change even if it looks better, for the record I hope there is still work to do on it because the CG doesn't look as real as the muppet.
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But the muppet from TPM didn't look anything like Yoda..at least the cgi version from 2 and 3 looked something like the original Yoda...so for me the change is good.

Although that does mean the aDigitalman's edit now has to be re-done...

Which is bty, a very good edit of TPM

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It's still not too late to pick up the original non-Yoda-altered (albeit pod race altered) DVD? It's not too late for me to avoid all this shit, is it?

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Yeah, it's still in stores.

"Maybe they couldn't use Yoda's true image due to legal reasons? That's the ONLY explanation!"

??? What makes you think Lucas doesn't own Yoda's likeness? Even Carrie Fisher joked that she owes Lucas royalties every time she looks in the mirror (though I think she only suffered that burden a long time ago... )

It was simply a poor "creative decision".

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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
Ive have been some U.K DVD sites and on the 5th December, a prequel boxset has been scheduled and available to order... I wonder that Yoda is included on that release, no news officially or on any U.S sites...


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cool, cartoon yoda. Now all that's left is: erase jar jar, new director, new script, new movie maybe...

Still not buying ep 1 on dvd ever again.
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Me neither...it's going to take more than a CGI Yoda to make that stinker into a better film...

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In theory I support the CG Yoda over the puppet Yoda in Episode I, given that I thought the puppet Yoda looked fake and decidedly un-Yoda-like. I hate Episode I anyway, so GL can screw with it all he likes as far as I'm concerned. You never know, he might accidentally turn it into a good movie one day.

However, I will personally hunt down and destroy everyone at Lucasfilm, ILM, and Skywalker Ranch, if any change is made to the Episode V and VI Yoda. Those performances - puppetry, expression AND voice-acting-wise - were PERFECT. The slight jerkiness of a puppet moves a lot more realistically than the fluidity of CG. Now Animatronics, THAT always worked well IMHO.
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Episode I > The Holiday Special

Anyway, Lucas will do as he pleases. He takes no one elses opinions in mind. When he gets in the editing room, his eyes light up, and he changes all he wants. And Ben Burtt only explains how great of an editor he is in the documentaries.
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Episode I > The Holiday Special


The first five circles of hell > The Holiday Special

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Yes! This is an excellent move on Lucas' part. The last step would be for Oz to re-record his lines in a deeper voice so he sounds like Yoda from the rest of the saga and not Grover (though I seriously doubt that will ever happen). Man, Yoda was just totally botched in Episode 1.

Interesting to note that it does not appear to be a mere "cut & paste" job, as you can tell from that shot the the bodies are different as well. I was afraid that if this change ever did come about they would just CG Yoda's face and leave the body as-is.

Oh, and one more thing; where does this leave Yaddle? Maybe it would be best to just replace her with another Council Member seen in AotC (the dinosaur guy, perhaps)?
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"Interesting to note that it does not appear to be a mere "cut & paste" job, as you can tell from that shot the the bodies are different as well."

A practiced eye would notice that the red cushion behind Yoda is different as well.

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<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

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<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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In the end does the new Yoda change much, its still trash, surely Lucas instead of messing around with the classic trilogy should do something with this film....
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I can't believe all this! I've noticed that most people who are in favor of this change defend it by saying that it's okay for this but not the original trilogy because the prequel trilogy sucks, and the original trilogy doesn't. Therefore, any change to the prequels are good. I thought this was partly out of film preservation. I think the prequels suck too, but I still think they should be preserved exactly the way they were in theatres, something that George has already seen to keep from happening. But the future of a film's survival shouldn't be dependent on such arbitrary reasons of whether or not it "sucks." I think it gives us less credibility than we already have to be whining to George, "Don't change the Star Wars trilogy! Give us back the originals!" only to turn around and say, "Yes! Thanks for changing Yoda in Episode I! Good job!" It just doesn't make any sense.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I can't believe all this! I've noticed that most people who are in favor of this change defend it by saying that it's okay for this but not the original trilogy because the prequel trilogy sucks, and the original trilogy doesn't. Therefore, any change to the prequels are good. I thought this was partly out of film preservation. I think the prequels suck too, but I still think they should be preserved exactly the way they were in theatres, something that George has already seen to keep from happening. But the future of a film's survival shouldn't be dependent on such arbitrary reasons of whether or not it "sucks." I think it gives us less credibility than we already have to be whining to George, "Don't change the Star Wars trilogy! Give us back the originals!" only to turn around and say, "Yes! Thanks for changing Yoda in Episode I! Good job!" It just doesn't make any sense.



Ive have to partly agree with Gaffer in one way, but on the other hand I dont mind change as long as it is sensible and looks good and blends,and something thing that isnt crap and looks like a 10 minute cut and paste job and changes the story eg Greedo firing changes the character of Han and looks crap, .The Yoda in Ep1 is sensible change as its basically a cosmetic change(and wasnt liked by the majority of fans) and it doesnt influence the story.

The O-O-T should be preserved because of its a place in filmaking history and it won all the awards not the SEs and I want it partly because some of Lucas changes are ridicolous and dont blend into film in my opinion and because they are the films a generation grew up with and should made available with the Lucas SE so the fans have a choice(which I feel Lucas could do with comprising his "vision" as he says)
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Basically, this site isn't really based on fan preservation for the sake of film history, but because of nastalgia and the wish to not lose childhood memmories. This is shown in the above posts, as Gaffer Tape pointed out. Many hold a double standard over this. If everyone here was really interested in film preservation, then there would be people creating all kinds of fan preservation projects of the PT theatricals like they do the OT. If nastalgia is the main drive for this site, then that is what it should promoted it as, rather than saying your main goal is preservation. You can't just claim that the OT needs to be preserved because you think is a good group of movies, but ignore the preservation of the PT becuase you don't like it. That's hypocritical. If you are truly devoted to preservation of film, then you would be interested in the PT as well. And no, this isn't flaming this is what I believe from observing this site. No harm intended, I'm just posting how I think it is.
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I have to agree all film should be preserved not matter what you cant pick and choose , and there is nothing wrong with Directors cuts and Special Editions though I am strong believer(not just SW any film and genre) that if you have a Directors Cut or a Special Edition the original(be it the thetrical or the slightly altered DVD) should be still available and not consigned to annals of film history and dumped away somewhere so the fan does not have the choice
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I can't believe all this! I've noticed that most people who are in favor of this change defend it by saying that it's okay for this but not the original trilogy because the prequel trilogy sucks, and the original trilogy doesn't. Therefore, any change to the prequels are good. I thought this was partly out of film preservation. I think the prequels suck too, but I still think they should be preserved exactly the way they were in theatres, something that George has already seen to keep from happening. But the future of a film's survival shouldn't be dependent on such arbitrary reasons of whether or not it "sucks." I think it gives us less credibility than we already have to be whining to George, "Don't change the Star Wars trilogy! Give us back the originals!" only to turn around and say, "Yes! Thanks for changing Yoda in Episode I! Good job!" It just doesn't make any sense.



I can see where you're coming from, but on the other hand, I think you're wrong.

1) Why would anyone want to preserve a film that sucks? I wish Episode I was never created, and so from that standpoint, I don't believe that it needs to be preserved.
2) The main reason I (and probably a fair few other people on here) want to see the Original-Original Trilogy preserved on DVD is because it doesn't contain changes that ruin the storyline or change the meaning of some scenes. Other changes are ridiculous and out-of-place, while others have been made to make it more consistent with the PT, when it clearly should have been the other way around.
3) In this instance, a CG Yoda has been implemented instead of the puppet Yoda, to make it look more like the Yoda seen in ESB and ROTJ. To my mind, the more consistent the Prequel Trilogy is with the Original Trilogy, the better. It is from this standpoint that I support the change.
4) As far as I'm concerned, it is the same mind that made ridiculous and horrendous changes to the Original Trilogy that conceived the Prequel Trilogy. I recall an appropriation of Obi-wan: "A storyteller by the name of George Lucas, who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil, helped ILM hunt down and destroy the Star Wars Saga."

You will probably disagree with me, if you're coming at it from the angle of historeography, but the fact remains, it *SHOULD* be possible for us to have our cake and eat it too. There are so many Star Wars fans with so many different opinions on the two trilogies, that it would be financially viable to release every version of Star Wars on DVD since its theatrical release. That, is something that I think we can all agree on.
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In fact, if the Original-Original Trilogy was re-released with cleaned up frames, reduced mat-lines, Dolby-surround sound, and re-rotoscoped lightsabers, I would have no problem with it whatsoever. The objections I have always had have been to the plot changes - i.e. Greedo shooting first, Jabba's scene in ANH, Sy Snootles' new musical number (which interferes with the flow of the movie), etc. It has also been to changes that have made the movie inferior - i.e. overdubs of that dodgy New Zealand voice for Boba Fett, Hayden Christensen as the ghost of Anakin, etc.
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Unfortunately we have to face the fact that the new OT as they call it is a fossilized version and not the real bones from nearly three decades ago or so. What's important though is to preserve the structure of the beast and not add a finger or an extra tooth anywhere just because you feel like it. Lucas would probably rather throw the fossil in the trash and create a digital model of it instead.

Which is fine. But with his digital models come extra teeth and more fingers that were never there and don't look natural on something that wasn't meant to have them.

What this silly analogy is trying to get at is how inconsequential this change is compared to what GL has done to the OT. I think the Pt was a failure. it didn't even explain threepio's leg, and that sort of thing was really all it had on its plate. And it couldn't handle it. F-

Now that might make me a wee bit bias in my definition of what deserves preservation, but truly this Yoda-facelift isn't going to the same degree as han shoots first or many of the other stupid changes so, it gets an ok from me.
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
In fact, if the Original-Original Trilogy was re-released with cleaned up frames, reduced mat-lines, Dolby-surround sound, and re-rotoscoped lightsabers, I would have no problem with it whatsoever. The objections I have always had have been to the plot changes - i.e. Greedo shooting first, Jabba's scene in ANH, Sy Snootles' new musical number (which interferes with the flow of the movie), etc. It has also been to changes that have made the movie inferior - i.e. overdubs of that dodgy New Zealand voice for Boba Fett, Hayden Christensen as the ghost of Anakin, etc.



All the edits on this site (Adigitalman's Empire & Jedi...Darth Editous' ANH) do what you pretty much say man...It's like watching the O-OT but all cleaned up an' shit

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In fact, if the Original-Original Trilogy was re-released with cleaned up frames, reduced mat-lines, Dolby-surround sound, and re-rotoscoped lightsabers, I would have no problem with it whatsoever. The objections I have always had have been to the plot changes - i.e. Greedo shooting first, Jabba's scene in ANH, Sy Snootles' new musical number (which interferes with the flow of the movie), etc. It has also been to changes that have made the movie inferior - i.e. overdubs of that dodgy New Zealand voice for Boba Fett, Hayden Christensen as the ghost of Anakin, etc.



All the edits on this site (Adigitalman's Empire & Jedi...Darth Editous' ANH) do what you pretty much say man...It's like watching the O-OT but all cleaned up an' shit


slighty off topic.,sorry, I live in the U.K can I get these? are they one with SE additions in them, Ive seen ones with SE bits as well that look interesting.