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Nope. I hope the ship blows up.

Then we can see them go back in time and change it so that nothing ever happened, and the series can start over and do it right.

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Favorite Episodes:
Best of Both Worlds 1 and 2
Trials and Tribblations
Scorpion 1 and 2 (the season that gave us Jeri Ryan)

Added: Oh, and I'm happy to report that the Monter Thickburger from Hardees tastes just great and I survived the encounter. I had one for lunch on the 29th, and I was full enough that I just snacked at dinner.
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WHAT?!?!??!?!?!? HOW CAN YOU SAY ENTERPRISE SUCKS?????

Ok, calming down. Anyways, Enterprise doesn't suck. How can a series suck that involves a year long story arch against an actual threat to Earth, involve anything called a "Temporal Cold War", and even have the Romulan Wars?? Yes, there have been some gay episodes (such as the Vulcan AIDS one, but then every Star Trek show has to throw a couple of crappy 'social issue' episodes in), but overall the show has been incredibly strong, especially these last two years.

...Enterprise sucks...hah!
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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I may get alot of flak for this, but I think these last few seasons of Enterprise are a hell of a lot stronger than the whole series of Voyager...but thats my opinion.
"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them during the long winter evenings."
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I'm no huge fan of Startrek, except TNG. It's the only one with characters I care about.

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Just pushing this thread back to the top before the new episodes start...
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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[Insert sarcastic remark about the quality of Enterprise here.]

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[Inserts foul explitive and an angry comment at chaltab meant to defend Enterprise]
"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them during the long winter evenings."
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*laughs evilly at the sorrow he has brought down upon Chaltab*
"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them during the long winter evenings."
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*slaps both Chaltab and Sessler for no apparent reason*
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

"Stay back, or Mr...Fett gets it!"
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*gives the evil eye to dushku*
"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them during the long winter evenings."
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Originally posted by: starkiller
Favorite Episodes:
Best of Both Worlds 1 and 2
Trials and Tribblations
Scorpion 1 and 2 (the season that gave us Jeri Ryan)

Added: Oh, and I'm happy to report that the Monter Thickburger from Hardees tastes just great and I survived the encounter. I had one for lunch on the 29th, and I was full enough that I just snacked at dinner.


i love Trials and Tribblations
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Isn't it Tribulations?

Nevermind... Um.. Is that Vulcan chick still on Enterprise?

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Yes, she is.

And no, its Tribblations...(checking startrek.com) Tribble-ations to be absolutely correct.

Its the DS9 episode where physically-altered Klingon agent Arne Darvin steals the Bajorean Orb of Time and attempts to alter history, by killing Captain Kirk before he determines that loads of grain (quadrotritikale, sp?), has been poisoned in order to allow Klingons to gain control of Sherman's Planet.

It was the DS9 attempt to pull a 'Han-meets-Jabba-remake'. The took the footage from TOS "Trouble with Tribbles" and added the DS9 cast.

- We meet Temporal Agents Dulmer and Lucsly (anagrams of Mulder and Scully), who are part of a Starfleet agency that monitors the timeline.
- We learn that the lack of head ridges on Klingons is "not something they like to talk about with outsiders".
- Doctor Bashir gets put in a strange situation, as he meets a woman on the Enterprise that he thinks is his now young and attractive grandmother (and he never knew who his grandfather was). He speculates that he is his own grandfather, and that not 'engaging' his grandmother, he will then cease to exist. Chief O'Brian talks him out of that.

Season 5, Episode 6
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I would hope so...

That's like if Marty McFly was a sick demented wacko.

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Or like that episode of Futurama...

Fry: *snore*
Leela: "Oh!"
Bender: "Oh my god!"
Fry: *tap* "Eh?"
Professor: "What the hell have you done Fry?"
Fry: "Relax. She can't be my grandmother! I've figured it all out."
Professor: "Of course she's your grandmother you perverted dope! Look"
Mildred: "Come back to bed dery."
Fry: "Waa! It's impossible! If she's my grandmother, then who's your grandfather?"
Professor: "Isn't it obvious? You are!"
Fry: "Aaaaa! Aaaaa! Aaaaa!"
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Wait...

That's an actual episode!?!?!
OMG! I thought it was just a random explanation for why the BrainMen couldn't control Fry...

*Puts Matt Groeing on hit list*

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It is indeed an episode.

Season 4, Episode 1: Roswell that Ends Well

This might be the best line in the episode:
Professor: "Start the ship, Leela! Let's just steal the damn radar dish, and get back to our own time."
Fry: "But, but, won't that change history?"
Professor: "Oooh… A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-my-own-grandpa! Let's get the hell out of here already. Screw history!"
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hey anyone see yesterdays ep. personally i really liked it and one of the things that is really making enterprise better is that they are making so many eps with moral problems. yesterdays ep was just like the one involving Trip's clone a couple of seasons ago. I haven't seen any other show do that. so i just wanted to say props to enterprise for become better.
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I agree, Enterprise is aging like wine.

Although I hope they do end it before it changes into vinegar.
"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them during the long winter evenings."
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Don't think you'll have to worry about vinegar, Sessler.

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An "Enterprise" Lost

Star Trek: Enterprise is going where no Trek spinoff has gone before: To a (relatively) early grave.

And the sci-fi franchise itself may be going on shore leave.

UPN and Paramount announced Wednesday that Enterprise will be phased out in May after four underwhelming seasons. Arguably of even more significance was what was not announced: Another new Trek series.

If Paramount doesn't come up with a Starfleet-staffed show for the fall, and there is no indication one is the offing, it'll be the first time in a decade that an outgoing Trek series has not replaced by an incoming Trek series.

Couple that with the franchise's space-docked big-screen program, and Star Trek, in the words of one Federation expert, "may have run its course." At least for now.

"[A Trek] show has been on the air weekly for the past [18] years, producing hundreds and hundreds of episodes, and that may just have been too much," Christian Hhne Sparborth, founder of TrekToday.com, said in an email interview.

Enterprise, the fourth spinoff of the 1966-69 flagship, and the first prequel, will have contributed 98 episodes to the largesse by the time it signs off on May 13. It will be the shortest run since the original series was axed by NBC after only 80 adventures; it will be the first spinoff series to not last at least seven seasons.

"We believe in the show creatively, but the ratings just weren't there," a UPN spokeswoman said Wednesday.

Reportedly ordered to shape up or ship out last spring, Enterprise is averaging 2.9 million viewers on Friday nights this season. Of late, the show has dipped so low--2.5 million for last week's episode--that it's being matched, sometimes even surpassed, in its time slot by Sci-Fi Channel's Stargate SG-1.

The numbers are a long way from September 2001 when 12.5 million monitored the premiere.

Enterprise, starring Scott Bakula (news) as Captain Jonathan Archer, was a creative disappointment to many fans in its first three seasons, Sparborth said. But in its current and, as it turns out, final season, the show rallied and "became the fans' ultimate dream."

Taking advantage of its position in the Trek timeline as a forerunner to the days of captains Kirk, Picard, Sisko and Janeway, Enterprise "dealt with the roots of Vulcan logic, the founding of the Federation, and it will soon even air two episodes explaining why the Klingons didn't have bumpy foreheads in the original series, but do now," Sparborth said.

With Enterprise's passing, TV viewers look to be without fresh Trek for the first time since before September 1987, when Star Trek: The Next Generation premiered in syndication. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine arrived in 1993, followed by Star Trek: Voyager in 1995.

The franchise's movie division isn't looking any healthier. No new Trek feature has been announced since Star Trek: Nemesis, featuring the Next Generation crew, bombed at the box office in 2002.

According to Walter Koenig, who played Ensign Chekov on Star Trek, even the once-thriving Trek convention circuit has taken a hit.

"The latest incarnation [Enterprise] has not done as well, and I think that has led to perhaps [a] diminish[ment] of conventions and the number of people who attend them," Koenig said last summer.

In a 2003 lawsuit brought by Activision against Paramount's corporate bosses over a videogame entanglement, the company argued that the Trek franchise was "stagnant" and in "decay."

In a statement Wednesday, Paramount Network Television president David Stapf preferred to describe the franchise as "enduring." He also talked, in non-specific terms, of "look[ing] forward to a new chapter."

To Sparborth, Star Trek isn't terminal; it's just begging for a new format. He, for one, would suggest the TV movie.

"The potential to tell stories is almost unlimited. With such movies it would be possible to realize plot ideas that have long been popular with fans," Sparborth said, suggesting telepics reuniting the Deep Space Nine cast or focusing on the goings-on at Starfleet Academy.

With a nod to franchise founder Gene Roddenberry's optimism, the future always looks bright on Star Trek. Right now, it's the present that's a little murky.
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Which brings me to my not so popular theory, that doing anything star trek related is pretty much beating a dead horse, a horse who died 30 years ago.
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