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ZkinandBonez said:

This one’s pretty interesting. Those markings weren’t on the helmet in the finished film so I’m guessing this is from a costume test or something like that.

Back in the day the Boba Fett fandom knew all about how his armor changed color between films, and about various costume tests, both this one and the all-white version. Interesting how that sort of thing gets forgotten generationally.

ZkinandBonez said:

Always fun to see Jim Henson in SW photos.

Indeed. 😄

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ATMachine said:

ZkinandBonez said:

This one’s pretty interesting. Those markings weren’t on the helmet in the finished film so I’m guessing this is from a costume test or something like that.

Back in the day the Boba Fett fandom knew all about how his armor changed color between films, and about various costume tests, both this one and the all-white version. Interesting how that sort of thing gets forgotten generationally.

Well, I know there’s subtle differences throughout ESB and ROTJ, and I know those markings showed up in the concept art, but this is the first time I’ve seen them on the actual costume.

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That info isn’t forgotten, it’s just the fandom has become so much larger with so many more niches (and so much more media than just 3 movies and some books and comics!) that you have to dig more. But if you visit places like theRPF or thedentedhelmet, that knowledge is alive and well. And there were MANY prototype Fett helmets and costumes.

Also, that shot of Jeremy Bulloch with the helmet off is always how I want to envision Boba Fett really looks. Very Clint Eastwood. Forget Temuera Morrison and official cannon!

JEDIT: There was a really cool article I ran across a few months ago about a lady in the lucasfilm art department who painted a number of the pre-production Fett armors that had some awesome pictures in it. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find it again right now. I’ll keep searching…

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Found it! Really cool article with some great personal photos.

https://www.bobafettfanclub.com/news/fettpedia/exclusive-interview-with-sandy-dhuyvetter-aka-momma-fett/

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Apparently there were two different designs of the Boba Fett helmet with “eyes”:

The version with lower eyes and pupils evidently came first, followed by a more stylized design placed higher up on the helmet. The Boba Fett Fan Club site has an excellent rundown of the variations.

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Yep! That’s the same site that had the article I posted above. And a slight correction, she wasn’t part of Lucasfilm but worked for a company that was contracted to do the work.

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In the photos I posted above George Lucas is meeting with toy executives from Kenner. Gotta get the merchandise out on time, after all! 😉

The eyes on the helmet remind me of the eyes painted on the prow of ancient Greek ships. Would make sense if Boba Fett was originally supposed to kill Han or Leia in Greek tragedy fashion, leaving Luke as “the character who survives Star Wars III”.

(Or maybe Fett could actually be Luke’s lost sister and they get together Game of Thrones-style, with fateful consequences in an Episode IX set 20 years or so later.)

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The Boba Fett figure was out way before ESB though, especially if you sent in your Kenner proof of purchase seals. 😃

So was the costume built before the Holiday Special cartoon was made?

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SilverWook said:

The Boba Fett figure was out way before ESB though, especially if you sent in your Kenner proof of purchase seals. 😃

So was the costume built before the Holiday Special cartoon was made?

Yep! See this article (https://www.starwars.com/news/the-real-first-appearance-of-boba-fett) to learn about Boba Fetts first public appearance in September 1978! Also, the old Kenner figure was based on one of the preproduction suits as seen in the databanks of the boba Fett fan club site above.

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ATMachine said:

Looks like Leia’s Hoth hairstyle may have been different originally, with two long dangling plaits instead of a crown braid.

It’s the same style, she just has the braids down in these pics.

canofhumdingers said:

that shot of Jeremy Bulloch with the helmet off is always how I want to envision Boba Fett really looks. Very Clint Eastwood. Forget Temuera Morrison and official cannon!

Yes!

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ATMachine said:
Looks like Leia’s Hoth hairstyle may have been different originally, with two long dangling plaits instead of a crown braid.

I think she also played a background extra (female rebel soldier). A completely different character to Leia - hence the different hairstyle - and costume.

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I understand being upset about the revisionism, and worse, the concerted effort for the revisionist version of things to take precedent over the original versions. I get all that, and I agree…

…but I definitely wouldn’t refer to Jeremy Bulloch as looking “Clint Eastwood-ish” there. I mean, if you maybe want to stretch it, sort of Chuck Norris-ish. And either way, he definitely doesn’t look like more of a badass, stoic, tough sonofabitch than Temuera Morrison does.

I didn’t know Treat Williams was an extra on this movie until today, though. That’s pretty cool.

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He’s definitely more badass than this guy from ROTJ Special Edition. 😉

I would actually say that Jeremy Bulloch does indeed look a little badass in that black and white photo, and I definitely see the Chuck Norris connection. Though I also like Temuera Morrison, I don’t like the idea of Boba sounding or looking like him.

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Slavicuss said:

ATMachine said:
Looks like Leia’s Hoth hairstyle may have been different originally, with two long dangling plaits instead of a crown braid.

I think she also played a background extra (female rebel soldier). A completely different character to Leia - hence the different hairstyle - and costume.

“And this background extra will be played by Harrison Ford wearing a fake mustache.”

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Broom Kid said:

I understand being upset about the revisionism, and worse, the concerted effort for the revisionist version of things to take precedent over the original versions. I get all that, and I agree…

…but I definitely wouldn’t refer to Jeremy Bulloch as looking “Clint Eastwood-ish” there. I mean, if you maybe want to stretch it, sort of Chuck Norris-ish. And either way, he definitely doesn’t look like more of a badass, stoic, tough sonofabitch than Temuera Morrison does.

I didn’t know Treat Williams was an extra on this movie until today, though. That’s pretty cool.

Ah, come on…


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A rare case of Ralph McQuarrie having an off day. Though maybe he was taking ideas from Joe Johnston’s designs here and incorporating them into his own art in a rather haphazard way.

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ZkinandBonez said:

I have always felt the ESB screenplay credit is unfair to Kasdan. I mean if Lucas really wanted to credit Brackett’s discarded work, at least they should have put Kasdan’s name first on the list.

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It took me a second to recognize Kasdan in the last two photos as he’s rarely present in BTS photos (which isn’t to strange considering people rarely bother to take photos of people writing movies).