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Election Day

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As you should know today is election day. I just thought we could use this thread to find out who we are all votting for. I don't want this thread to turn into another political argument thread. I just want to know who you are votting for or if you are not an American who you would vote for. Please don't give you reasons. Do that in another thread please. Just simply say who you are going to vote for.

I will go first:

Kerry.
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Bush.

Mainly due to lack of a suitable opponent.

But Bush has done good so far.
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

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if i could (not being a US citizen) i would vote for Kerry. the lesser of two evils. we know that bush doesnt know how to be president, we dont know that kerry doesnt know...
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I'm an Aussie but if I could vote for "the leader of the free world" I'd vote to replace Bush with Kerry in a heartbeat.
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Goering.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Goebbels.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - Orwell.
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God bless America. May she make the right choice for her future... and the future of the whole world.
I saw the original theatrical release of the Old Trilogy on the big screen and I'm proud of it...
How did I accomplish that (considering my age) is my secret...
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I'll do a write-in vote for Marty Feldman:


Jokes aside, I would like to know how was your voting, and I don't mean who you voted for, I wanted to know how long did you have to wait, how did you vote, where did you vote, did you vote on paper or in a computer, that sort of thing...
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Plain and Simple

JOHN KERRY


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I'll be going in pretty soon to drop a what's what for Kerry.
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I've just tuned in for CNN right now, and there was this lady in Florida saying that she voted for the democrat candidates, and on the review screen, republican candidates were showed to her as the ones she would vote for. Hmn.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Isn't obvious??
I'm a Bush-man.

Warbler, how about those stories of voter fraud in Philly?? I read that something like 500 votes were made on machines before the polls opened. It was a Drudge about 2-3 hours ago. Since I've been at work, I haven't heard the latest.
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heard the same thing SK on the radio this morning. Also there are wide spread tails of people showing up to vote and there names already being checked off the list/signed.

I just got back from voting...Go Bush...
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heard the same thing SK on the radio this morning. Also there are wide spread tails of people showing up to vote and there names already being checked off the list/signed.

I just got back from voting...Go Bush...
I also heard about the names thing, but I heard about 1 incident in Columbus OH, not that it was "wide spread".
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if i could vote it'd be kerry. i fell that during a time of peace bush could be a good presidents but during a time of conflict he doesnt really know what to do.
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If I could, I'd vote Nader.

Because I can't, I'm watching the OT all day.
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If I could, I wouldn't. How are you supposed to vote in an election that really has no choice?

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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you choose the lesser of all the evils.

all it takes for evil to win is for a good man too stand by and do nothing.

ok that quote was just to get an idea across i dont think anyone in the election is evil.
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If I was an american I would vote for Marty Feldman as I quoted above. But since he was british and died 22 years ago, I would vote for Mel Brooks. I would like to see PResident Scroobs running the country. But since Mel Brooks is too busy praising Hitler and dosen't want to envolve in politics, I would vote either green or comunist.

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By Richard Serrano and Ralph Vartabedian Times Staff Writers

LAS VEGAS — Broke, disabled and living at the Daisy Motel in downtown Las Vegas, Tyrone Mrasek Sr. took a temporary job late this summer registering voters here.

The employer primarily wanted President Bush (news - web sites) supporters, but they were not easy to find. So Mrasek handed out cigarettes to drunks and ex-felons at a homeless shelter in exchange for signatures. Later he found a stack of signed registrations for Democratic voters in a trash can outside the company's office, he recalled.

"They had some shady things going on," Mrasek said.

Partisan registration drives have swept through battleground states such as Nevada, Ohio and New Mexico. Hundreds of thousands of new registrations have poured into county and state offices and strained the systems in these states.

But as workers closely examined some forms, they found clear cases of fraud. In some instances, stacks of registrations had the same handwriting. In others, names were lifted from phone books and signatures forged. And many of the new registrations were duplicates of already registered voters.

Financed by political parties, wealthy advocacy groups and grass-roots organizations, liberal and conservative organizations have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to register voters. The crush, along with the irregular registrations, have bred chaos across the nation.

"We were getting stacks of forms with identical handwriting," said Harvard L. Lomax, registrar of voters in Clark County here. "We were getting calls from people wanting to know why they were getting registration forms when they hadn't asked for one. If you went to a DMV office over the last five months, you were mobbed by people trying to register you, claiming they were working for us. It was obvious it was fraud."

The presidential outcome is expected to be very close, and voter registration fraud could well become this year's hanging chad. If so, it will be an issue that the losing party can seize upon to argue in the courts that the election was flawed.

After the disputed 2000 presidential election, new federal rules were supposed to ensure that registration lists were more accurate and current. Congress passed the Help America Vote Act in 2002, requiring every state to have a computerized statewide registration list that would be instantly updated with each new registration.

But 37 states have failed to meet the new standards and sought waivers from the federal government, said Rebecca Vigil-Giron, secretary of state in New Mexico and president of the association that represents other secretaries.

"A lot of states do not have good data systems," she said.

California officials are relying on an older registration computer system but hope to have a new list by 2006 that complies with federal law. It will cost $40 million to implement, said Tony Miller, special counsel to the secretary of state.

Many state officials acknowledge that their systems and laws need to be tightened. Under Oregon law, for example, outside organizations can hire temporary workers and pay them for each new registration. In Nevada, temporary workers may be paid by the hour but not for individual registrations.

"You are creating incentives for fraud if you pay by the signature," said Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury.

In Alabama, counties have a big backlog of last-minute registrations, and discrepancies in the records have left them unsure how many voters are on the rolls. Last week, Anita Tatum, director of the office of voter registration, resigned after she could not explain the discrepancies.

In Ohio, the Republican Party is challenging about 25,000 new registrations. David Beckwith, a GOP spokesman in Ohio, said there were a number of "Democratic front groups" holding registration drives in the region and that "the fraud accusations have been worse than in 40 years."

He said multiple Democratic registration forms were signed "in the same hand," Democratic signatures were traded for "cash or crack cocaine," and a woman's husband, dead for 20 years, was registered in the Cleveland area.

"This has been sloppy and haphazard," Beckwith said.

Liberal groups such as America Coming Together, formed in 2003 with 300,000 donors, amassed a $125-million budget for registering voters, spokeswoman Sara Leonard said. Much of the money flowed down to local organizations that hired temporary workers. Another liberal group, America Votes, a coalition of 33 organizations led by powerful unions and environmental groups, built up a $400-million budget, part of which went to registrations.

Meanwhile, the Republican National Committee (news - web sites) has funded one company at the center of allegations, Voter Outreach of America Inc., which is active in Las Vegas and across the nation. It was set up by Nathan Sproul, former chairman of the Arizona Republican Party.

Mrasek, who is disabled with emphysema, said he and his son spotted a newspaper ad for the Sproul group. The younger Mrasek, who also is disabled and lives with his father at the Daisy Motel, bowed out when he learned the emphasis was to register GOP voters.

His father took the Sproul job, which paid about $8 an hour and allowed workers to go home early with full pay on days they managed to register 18 Republicans.

Mrasek said he was given a written script to ask people whether they favored Bush or Sen. John F. Kerry (news, bio, voting record). To those favoring the Massachusetts senator, Mrasek replied that he was just taking a poll and thanked them for stopping.

But for those who liked Bush, Mrasek offered to register them. "George Bush (news - web sites) really needs your help this election," he said he was told to say.

In predominantly Democratic Las Vegas, however, Mrasek had a hard time finding unregistered Republicans, he said. One day, he registered himself and his son as Republicans to meet his quota, though he opposes Bush's Iraq (news - web sites) policies and plans to vote for Kerry.

Eric Russell, another temporary employee for the project, also alleged that he saw Democratic Party registrations thrown in the trash. With legal assistance from the Democratic Party, he went to court and tried, unsuccessfully, to reopen registration.

Russell, a Republican who now plans to vote for Kerry, also gave authorities a copy of the written sales pitch, which said, in part, "Use your training to find likely Republicans."

Sproul denied the allegations. He said he fired Russell and then sued him, alleging he and the company had been slandered.

"Our goal was to register as many supporters of President Bush as we could. However, we gave very strict instructions to everybody associated with us that we had a zero tolerance policy if anybody was destroying, tampering or altering registration forms," he said, adding that his project turned in more than 500 Democratic registrations in Nevada.

Meanwhile, Republicans say the Democratic registrations submitted by liberal groups are tainted.

Brian Scroggins, chairman of the Clark County Republican Party, said his organization spot-checked some of the new Democratic registration forms and found that "the first three we looked at" carried home addresses that actually were vacant lots.

"Sure we're upset," Scroggins said.

But Sproul also has run into trouble in
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Remember when Saddan did that election and people voted with their own blood, and he got 99% of the votes? Well even then the election wasn't rigged and frauded as this one is.
Exqueese me?
That Iraqi election wasn't rigged??

Fear is a mighty motivator. Saddam held the life of every Iraqi in his hands through his Fedayeen(sp?) army.

Hypothetical:
You've got a gun to your head, Ric. Vote Saddam, or not? Don't give the wrong answer.
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starkiller, read the last sentence one more time. It says: both elections were rigged, but the US one looks even more frauded than the Iraqi one.

I'm just LMAO that America, so drunk with "the power of technology" etc. can't get past the problems with election system. So there must be two reasons: either those people are plain old fashion stupid or there is something fishy going on... and I'm betting on the last option.
I saw the original theatrical release of the Old Trilogy on the big screen and I'm proud of it...
How did I accomplish that (considering my age) is my secret...
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I voted for John Kerry.
"May the force be with you!"