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Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit — Page 16

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I think including Vader’s castle somewhere is the best way of showing the audiance that it’s Mustafar instead of telling them.

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Octorox said:

DominicCobb said:

Now that I think of it it would be nice if we could figure out some solution(s) to Mustafar. I do have a couple ideas in mind.

I’ve seen some other people post tests were they added more establishing shots culled from other sources. I think that’s probably your best bet. There is a canon reason why Mustafar looks the way it does in this movie but for someone only tuned into the films it’s a bit confusing.

Im definitely more on the “movie canon” side of things. The people in the audience should not have to look into movie, comics, tweets, video games for major plot things, or at least significant bits of information for a movie.

So yeah, it is either adding some establishing shots or removing the whole section and just have the info about it in the crawl that Kylo has obtained a/grandfathers/snokes/insert-something’s Sith Wayfinder. At least that’s my personal view.

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Octorox said:

DominicCobb said:

Now that I think of it it would be nice if we could figure out some solution(s) to Mustafar. I do have a couple ideas in mind.

I’ve seen some other people post tests were they added more establishing shots culled from other sources. I think that’s probably your best bet. There is a canon reason why Mustafar looks the way it does in this movie but for someone only tuned into the films it’s a bit confusing.

Basically I think there’s the ‘lean it to not looking like Mustafar’ approach, and the ‘try to make it obviously Mustafar’ approach.

For the first, I’ve found a decent shot that matches what we see, although it’d be great to add a couple TIE fighters and/or some distant laser blasts.

For the second, there’s a shot from Rogue One that’d work, but you’d have to swap out Krennic’s shuttle with some TIEs, then I think it’d also be helpful to try to make the footage of Kylo seem more like Mustafar as well.

Either way involves VFX unfortunately.

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I saw that user Krausfadr moved the Finn and Poe play chess with Chewie scene to the end of the movie when Rey lands on Tattooine to establish that she didn’t go alone. Not sure about the etiquette of using someone else’s edit, but I thought it was a fantastic addition that would fit well with your falcon take-off final shot.

https://streamable.com/wwx02y

Also, what are your thoughts on changing the title to Duel of the Fates, as in the Treverrow version? It could make using the music track in the duel even more effective.

If it were possible, would you consider adding Ben Solo as a ghost in the final scene? Alternatively, I’ve seen some speculate that due to the nature of the force dyad, Ben and Rey’s spirits are now one inside of her. Is this be something you would be interested in subtly implying? Perhaps by mixing in some of the hopeful parts of ‘Torn Apart’.

Sign me up to the list of “make Finn and Poe more gay”. I saw someone suggest using Poe’s sex eyes towards Zorii with a shot of Finn, has anyone seriously tried this? Perhaps even using a behind the scenes shot if there is an appropriate one. If it works, it could even add subtext to the chess scene at the end of the movie I mentioned earlier.

Might I suggest as well in the finale cutting the “Rey who?” question. I know it’s setup in Pasaana but it’s a very weird question to ask a random stranger. I would suggest:

“Who are you?”
“I’m Rey…”
look at force ghosts
“…Rey Skywalker”

Anyway, very much looking forward to seeing this. All of your clips so far seem top notch.

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Truth be told I’m not sold on the chess scene move, only because I think the first third of the movie moves fast enough as is and that’s a nice ‘slowing things down’ moment. If not for that I think it’s a wonderful change.

I don’t really like changing the title of my edits, so probably not. If I were to remove the “Rey Skywalker” line, I might consider it though (in a way using DOTF wouldn’t be too off since it is sort of an official title in a couple ways).

Personally I’d love to add Ben Solo as a ghost, but I don’t really have the know-how to do it, and I’ve yet to see anyone else do a polished version of it to the extent that I’d include it.

As much as I wished they had gone the Finn/Poe romance route, I don’t think there’s a way to make it work. The celebration edit is a cute idea but there wouldn’t be any set up for it.

I’m not sure about the old lady interaction on a few different levels. It’s something that’ll have to be played around with.

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DominicCobb said:

Truth be told I’m not sold on the chess scene move, only because I think the first third of the movie moves fast enough as is and that’s a nice ‘slowing things down’ moment. If not for that I think it’s a wonderful change.

I don’t really like changing the title of my edits, so probably not. If I were to remove the “Rey Skywalker” line, I might consider it though (in a way using DOTF wouldn’t be too off since it is sort of an official title in a couple ways).

Personally I’d love to add Ben Solo as a ghost, but I don’t really have the know-how to do it, and I’ve yet to see anyone else do a polished version of it to the extent that I’d include it.

As much as I wished they had gone the Finn/Poe romance route, I don’t think there’s a way to make it work. The celebration edit is a cute idea but there wouldn’t be any set up for it.

I’m not sure about the old lady interaction on a few different levels. It’s something that’ll have to be played around with.

Thanks for the response. Whatever you ultimately decide, I can’t wait to see it. It feels good to actually have hope for this film again.

Do you have any plans for the Hux/Pryde lacklustre plot?

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Unfortunately I’m not really sure what can be done with that to improve it.

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Pryde was ultimately completely pointless. There was a hint of something interesting of him being a Sith cultist as he had that psychotic look in his eyes when contacting Palpatine.

Unfortunately that’s about as far as it goes. He’d have to be introduced back in TLJ or even TFA to have any interesting impact on the plot.

Maaaaaybe there might be a way of using other footage of the actor to create a weird Sith-worshipping scene, like using his dialogue over some robed imagery, but otherwise I’d almost say Pryde should be cut from the story in general. Hux can die with the crashing of the Star Destroyers easily.

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Hux being a spy felt like a natural development after being treated like a butt monkey in TLJ.

What is lackluster about it in your opinion?

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OT: Reimagined/Revisited/…
ST: Starlight/Rekindled/Resurgence

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The fact that it’s treated as a joke that’s little more than a device to get our heroes out of one jam instead of a development of his character, and then immediately killing him off.

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It’s a severe misunderstanding of his character. Just because he’s the butt of jokes doesn’t mean he is a joke. But like I said there really isn’t anything to be done about it.

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Hey Dominic, what did you use to create your custom crawl?

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Sorry for the minor bump, but I’m curious to know if any more progress has been made to the removal of Rey Palpatine? I feel like Hal’s thread should begin to start addressing this elephant in the room. It’s all perfectly fine to continue with more minor audio and VFX changes but this aspect will require some serious brainpower to solve.

After all, Hal is depending on this edit to give him the ideas and motivation he needs to fix it. 😉

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Where’d you pull the additional establishing shot of Ach-To from?

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Thanks, I like the change. It helps add just a moment to breathe.

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Hal 9000 said:

Thanks, I like the change. It helps add just a moment to breathe.

I wish we had an establishing shot of the planet itself. Almost every Star Wars film introduces a new location by seeing a ship approach a planet. We never get this shot with Ahch-To, except through the Window of the Millennium Falcon at the end of The Force Awakens… it would be nice to see the Falcon arrive and head to the planet, as well as the TIE arrive and head to the planet.

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I don’t think that’d be necessary, it’s new to the movie but not to the series. It’s not too hard to come up with similar examples, including Dagobah in ROTJ and this very planet in TLJ.

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Did you pull the shot from the YouTube video itself?

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Yeah, it was uploaded in 4K though so when downloaded at that size and used in HD I’m not too worried about the quality.

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Thanks, I think it looks pretty good. I gave it a bluish green hue to blend in with the surrounding scene, but I’ll see how it looks once I apply skenera’s LUT to the whole film which I can’t do until after exporting from FCP7. (Yes, still using that…)

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Yes I had to do some color correction to make it match too (and added a bit of a digital tilt).

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Any update on this Fanedit? PM me a link if it’s ready, I’d love to check it out. Your clips look great!