Does it depress you... — Page 5

Easterhay said:

, or the thorny issue of shooting unarmed terrorists because they plotted to murders thousands of innocent people on 911

fixed(assuming you were referring to the raid in Abbottabad where Bin Laden got what he deserve)

btw, I guarantee you they could have convicted Bin Laden in court.   He admitted to doing 911 and I doubt very much that he would have denied do it in court.  Bin Laden was proud of what he did.   He would have loved to have bragged about it in court.   Also, all the other videos he made of making threats of violence against the US and other countries and peoples would have been enough to put him in jail for awhile.

Easterhay said:

  The fact that I haven't seen the originals since nineteen-oh-spit probably speaks volumes on my perspective on this most trivial (in my mind) of issues.

yes it does.

Easterhay said:

I think if you accept that, as a fan, you didn't make the films and therefore they're not yours,

Easterhay said:

It's Lucas's call, not ours. 

see this is the attitude that I just can't stand.  "there Lucas's films, so that makes anything he does with the right." 

Lucas has the legal right to do as he pleases, but that doesn't make him right.   Just because he can, doesn't make it right for him to shove SE down our throats and refuse to give us the choice to watch the OOT.  We the fans and his customers, are entitled to our own opinions of what Lucas does.  If we don't like what he does, we have the right to say so and protest, and write letters, petitions, and emails and we have the right to refuse to buy his product.  

Easterhay said:

Well, that's how they are.  Sorry if you think it sounds like a political answer...or, um, moronic.  But it's just an opinion. 

no, what it sounds like is an answer given by a Lucas worshiper/yes-man. 

Easterhay said:

 I just think Lucas sees them as ongoing works, hence the constant tinkering (which, no, I don't think is a good thing for any artist to do).  So that's what they are.

I'm sorry, but I refuse to call the versions that I grew up with and watched and enjoyed for twenty years, "works in progress".    They are not works in progress, they were the finished product until Lucas decided he had to f___ them up. 

Easterhay said:

I genuinely think that if one person wants it then it's worthy of being done. 

 

good, I want the OOT on blu-ray in the highest video and audio quality possible.    By your logic, since I want it, it is worthy of being done.

Warbler said:

Easterhay said:

, or the thorny issue of shooting unarmed terrorists because they plotted to murders thousands of innocent people on 911

fixed(assuming you were referring to the raid in Abbottabad where Bin Laden got what he deserve)

btw, I guarantee you they could have convicted Bin Laden in court.   He admitted to doing 911 and I doubt very much that he would have denied do it in court.  Bin Laden was proud of what he did.   He would have loved to have bragged about it in court.   Also, all the other videos he made of making threats of violence against the US and other countries and peoples would have been enough to put him in jail for

 ^I think you want the Conspiracy Theory Off Topic thread ;-)

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

It makes no difference which version of the film I or anyone else "prefers".  The original theatrical versions won seven academy awards including editing and special effects. Changing the editing and the special effects while not allowing a decent release of the award-winning versions creates an unprecedented historical artistic void that could and should be rectified.

As precise and perfect as I have ever seen it in writing. It simply cannot be argued with. Found my new signature.

CP3S said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

It makes no difference which version of the film I or anyone else "prefers".  The original theatrical versions won seven academy awards including editing and special effects. Changing the editing and the special effects while not allowing a decent release of the award-winning versions creates an unprecedented historical artistic void that could and should be rectified.

As precise and perfect as I have ever seen it in writing. It simply cannot be argued with. Found my new signature.

Totally agree, not gonna use as my sig though ;-)

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda saidIt makes no difference which version of the film I or anyone else"prefers".  The original theatrical versions won seven academy awards including editing and special effects. Changing the editing and the special effects while not allowing a decent release of the award-winning versions creates an unprecedented historical artistic void that could and should be rectified.

Totally. I don't know how the superfans always manage to turn this issue into their own self involved blogging. "Dear Diary, I personally like most of the changes, most of them don't bother me, I never saw the original so big deal etc." The hell does that have to do with preservation of a piece of pop art, (to say nothing of the revisionism happening to the work of two directors who are now dead)

As someone who has seen via Lucas and the fanedit community so many variations of all the films I find them all interesting and if the original versions were still out there and well cared for I would be happy for Lucas to release a different SE every year for the rest of his life, it's the absence of the original versions that this site and community is all about.

I want the original versions of ROTJ and the PT preserved (and I don't even like them that much) because they are cultural significant films.

ESB is in my view a near perfect piece of cinema but even that isn't as important in terms of cinema history as Star Wars (1977).