I loved John Simm as the Master. Thought he was brilliant. Unfortunately, yeah, the episode really sucked. The aged Doctor part was painfully lame, and the way they got him back was unbelievably dumb. Out of all the episodes in the series, this was the finale I really, really, really, really wanted to like, but it was pretty awful.
^This. Also, it set the precedent for RTD season finales being overblown, ridiculous, and stupid. In my opinion, Season 1's finale was excellent, Season 2's was decent, but from there they just go downhill fast, culminating in the ultimate crapfest that is "The End of Time."
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Just met River Song. Very interesting use of "you haven't met me yet". Saddest too.
Now I'm all worried for The End of Time, not only because I'll be losing Tennant (and maybe Donna?), but because its going to be overblown? I don't know I'm fine with overblown. I did think the Dobby Doctor was silly, and when everyone thought the Doctor's name and he grew back into his 10th incarnation (I would have thought turning off a Time Lord's regeneration would make it so if he regenerated back, it would probably be different) then started floating, I was very glad my wife didn't decide to start watching that episode with me.
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If the Master does ever return (hee, hee) I hope he returns to his previous MO of shrinking people to death and leaving their action figure sized corpses for people to find.
I also hope the stupid tinnitus motivation for his behaviour is dropped.
The Master wanted to control things himself because everyone else in power was making such a rubbish job of it.
He believes what he is doing is ultimately for the good of everyone.
He certainly isn't the most evil being in the universe or even the most evil Time Lord.
He just sees everyone else in power as being small people playing at being giants, so he reduces them down to their true size.
As for Dobby Who, where did that cage go and what was that little suit made of, hmm?
It was nice to see Gallifrey for a few seconds though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7boeBf5pbQ
Time Crash. That was awesome. So great to see Tennant meeting his hero as his Doctor meeting his hero Doctor. What was with the celery?
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If you watch the Fifth Doctor's swan song The Caves Of Androzani (and it's well worth the watch) you get your answer.
Basically the Fifth Doctor has a bit of complex about death via Praxis range gas poisoning which the other incarnations tend to ignore (11 does mention it now and then). When exposed to said gases the celery turns purple and the 'cure' is to eat celery so win, win (in the highly unlikely situation of being poisoned by Praxis range gases).
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=84226
Really, a film reboot of Doctor Who, with no ties to the series? This reminds me of the Battlestar film remake they're talking about, that's a remake of the original series. All of this is only going to confuse people.
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=84226
Really, a film reboot of Doctor Who, with no ties to the series?
Hey, it worked for Peter Cushing!
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Sounds lame. However, if they went with Paul McGann as the Doctor... that would actually be kind of cool...
Well, not if he plays the character as a daft idiot, like in the 96 telefilm, but if he plays portrays him like the 8th Doctor in the radio dramas... I'd definitely take a look.
This would be a nice compromise in fitting it in with the continuity while also not fitting it in with the continuity, I have the feeling they are looking more for a reboot were they can say, "hang it all" to any established Who lore. In other words, they aren't interested in making Doctor Who, just in using the name and butchering the base concepts to make a few bucks. Yay for a day and age where nothing original exists!
Rebooting comes from a meltdown.
If it is not broken it doesn't need fixing, if it's broken but fixable all it needs is a slight patch but if it's totally smashed but has a recognisable identity then you go back and re-invent.
The beauty of the format is that you can (in theory) tell any story at all with Doctor Who.
He can go anywhere, any when.
Backwards, forwards, sideways and outside through the universe.
There is never a need to reboot the thing or even worry that much about canon because the format allows for all stories to fit in a way that no other story series can.
Even the Peter Cushing stories can be wiggled into place with a few lines of dialogue.
Paul would be the ideal Doctor to play with because visually he is almost a blank slate and yet backwards, forwards and sideways through the television show, the comics, the audioplays, the novels etc he has possibly a huge scope of impact and he is a good actor.
You can connect the Eighth Doctor into almost any story and still have him fit into the television show continuity and the classic show continuity without making steam come out of the ears of anyone reading or listening to anything else.
However if these films are to be an alternative to ongoing television stories to save the BBC some cash it could be a terrible disaster.
Just look at the wealth of Star Trek visual stories since Enterprise went off the air.
Impressive aren't they?
Alright, so I'm in Series 5 now. Catching up:
"The Stolen Earth" / "Journey's End"
Tied up all of the lose ends from the first 4 seasons, had every companion the Doctor has known in the new series together using their unique skills for one final send off. The Doctor even regenerates, sort of. Everyone is happy. Everything ends, no cliffhangers, just The Doctor, alone again. Perfection, brought tears to my eyes.
"The Next Doctor" / "Waters of Mars" ("Planet of the Dead" was not on Netflix)
Pretty bad. Didn't like what the Doctor was becoming, but I guess that was the point. "The Time Lord Victorious" worried me a lot, but Time worked itself out.
"The End of Time"
Really? This was the 10th Doctor's two-part, feature-length send off? A bunch of stuff happens that doesn't make sense, The Master returns and becomes every person on the planet for the purpose of bringing James Bond & The Time Lords (best band name ever) out of the Time War, just for everything to be undone in a few minutes. And 10 is done in by radiation that lets him slowly and silently stalk all of his old companions who we already said goodbye to for 20 minutes before he has to regenerate, which for some reason blows up the TARDIS. Shameful, even with The Master being the focus.
11th Doctor
So far, I like him. I seem to do this every time. I was afraid I wouldn't like 10 as much as I liked 9, but as soon as I started watching the new episodes I loved him. I was afraid of losing Rose, but Martha was awesome. I was afraid of losing Martha, but Donna really shined. Finally, I was afraid of losing 10. For some reason, its like they were trying to wean us off of Tennant in the Series of Movies (what was up with that, did they take the year off or something?), as he had his moments but was pretty unlikable at several points.
Anyway, I can tell that Matt Smith is really young and energetic, which is nice, but I can see how it might get annoying after a while.
I've got two weeks to watch the rest of Series 5, then I'll have to find other ways of catching up through 6. Any help would be hot.
EDIT: THE DVDS ARE $100 A SERIES! That's insane.
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Agreed on all points. Personally, I think Matt Smith makes a fantastic Doctor #11. His first season is without a doubt my favorite season of New-Who.
My feelings on Doctor #10 are mixed. On the one hand, David Tennant was born to play the Doctor and excels at it. Also, there were some serious high-points for this doctor and he's usually very likable, engaging, and entertaining. On the other hand, as his tenure progressed, I began to grow more and more exasperated with how the character was written. I suppose I'm more a fan of David Tennant than I am of Doctor #10, if that makes sense.
Incidentally, if you ever get a chance to catch "Planet of the Dead," I'd go for it. Although the Tenant Specials weren't too good, "Planet of the Dead" was the best of the batch IMO and is really rather entertaining.
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What about getting Tom Baker to come back and play an older Doctor?
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I don't know, it seemed like they were stretching it with Time Crash. Looking at pictures of 5, he's aged a lot.Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
What about getting Tom Baker to come back and play an older Doctor?
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I think this info may be still current.
Personally I found Journey's End even more silly than The End Of Time.
Rose getting her duplicate Doctor.
The Daleks destroyed by a finger operated console in a dungeon designed for containing 'befingered' dangerous enemies (another giant lapse of logic by those fingerless Daleks).
The Tardis towing the Earth back into orbit and the moon swinging back into place was astonishingly silly.
Such a shame because Julian Bleach made such a perfect Davros.
What seemed to happen to Donna was a cruel move (especially seeing as we later find out it was a fib big enough to make Obi-Wan blush and it didn't even make sense).
I may do the season pass thing from Amazon. $12 for the whole season is much better than $12 per half on iTunes.
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As suggested by Bingo:
I don't like how it turned out as well as I do the lightsaber, but it's not bad.
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Very nice.
It might look better if you had the head extended thus:
(quite like what the light cone is doing there too).
I had it like that, but it makes the 5 look top-heavy.Bingowings said:
Very nice.
It might look better if you had the head extended thus:
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I see, did you consider having the connecting tube appear transparent (not a continuous silver block but just the outline and core until you get to the emitter head)?
I don't know if you caught these extra scenes.
This one is right after The Eleventh Hour.
And this one just before Vampires In Venice.
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I don't know, it seemed like they were stretching it with Time Crash. Looking at pictures of 5, he's aged a lot.Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
What about getting Tom Baker to come back and play an older Doctor?
I know, that's why I was imagining him doing an older version of the doctor, like Hartnell's age.
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I'll give the transparency a go sometime. Thanks for the videos, I don't get those on Netflix.Bingowings said:
I see, did you consider having the connecting tube appear transparent (not a continuous silver block but just the outline and core until you get to the emitter head)?
I don't know if you caught these extra scenes.
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It seems that every year around this time, all of BBC's shows are marked as going away on December 1 on Netflix. It's like BBC has a yearly contract with Netflix set to auto-renew, but the counter still shows it as expiring. I'm not taking any chances, will definitely finish it all before then. Hopefully that means I can just watch Series 6 when it come on there.
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doubleofive said:
As suggested by Bingo:
I don't like how it turned out as well as I do the lightsaber, but it's not bad.
I think it looks great! Having the light being emitted as a cone (like in Bingo's pic) would balance it out, a bit more like the sabre. In comparison to the sabre, it feels too short, but more silver, like in the extended screwdriver, would make the actual five feel too long. Imagining it in my head as a cone shaped beam it looks fantastic!
I also like the idea of you changing it in your sig to discombobulate Fink. Earlier this year when Doctor Who related discussion was finding its way into several threads and everyone was changing their avatar to some incarnation of the Doctor or another, Fink kept trying to remind everyone that this was a Star Wars forum. That was fun. If you do change your sig pic to the screwdriver, I think we should plan another mass Who'ing of our avatars...