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Oh come on, why would it make more sense for Plegas to have conceived him? Remember that scene from Star Trek Nemesis (terrible film) where Picard's clone tried to mentally rape Diana Troy? I imagine Palps would be the kind of guy who would pull things like that through the force. There are probably all these mothers going around wondering how the hell they got pregnant. Yeah, I don't even doubt it anymore. Palps is Luke and Leia grandaddy. It just makes sense. How could Darth Plegasus be Ani father when we never even met the guy. Here is my theory on the genealogy of SW.

Darth Plegis, the father of Palpatine
Palpatine, the father of Anakin Skywalker
Anakin Skywalker, the father of Luke, Leia and C-3PO Skywalker
Luke and Ledia Skywalker, the parents of Han Solo (NOTE: I have a very complicated theory of how this is possible, but it is far too complicated to explain here. To make a long story short let's just say that it involved a whole lot of alcohol and a time travel device...)
Han Solo, the father of Jacen, Jenia, and Anakin Solo, as well as Padme Nabre (<-- much like his mom and dad, in his younger days Han liked to use time travel to make sex more exciting. Again, this is just a theory, I have yet to run it by George, but I have no reason to doubt he will give it his Skywalker Ranch Stamp of Canonicity. So, don't be surprised if you find the officially licensed SW comic series Han Solo's Adventures in Time Travel in your local adult book store within the next couple of years).

Oh, and just in case anybody was wondering, The three Solo siblings went on to invent the astometric droid. Unfortunately, nobody liked them because they resembled garbage cans and had no voice boxes, with their only means of communication being annoying little beeping sounds. Only one of these droids was ever sold, before the Solos went bankrupt and had to sell the rest of their stock for scrap metal. The one droid that was sold, was sold to a group of pan-dimentional beings who lived outside of time and space. These beings were called the Znignies, who you may remember as the inventors of the Wookie™. The Znignies, who were known for their marketing skills, reverse engineered the astrometric droids, reproduced them in an abundance, and used their marketing magic to sell the things some hundred years before Jacen, Jenia or Anakin Solo were born (this, in order to avoid a potentially messy lawsuit). The things sold like hotcakes. Though it was not the intention of the Znignies, it just so happened that a hundred years before the Solo siblings were born, people thought beeping robots were quaint rather than annoying. As you can imagine, this helped sells considerably. In hindsight, one could say it is ashame the Solo children didn't use their father's time travel device (the very same one he used to conceive their long lost fourth sibling, who inccidently ended up being their grandmother as well), which was now just in a corner of the garage collecting dust, to go back in time one hundred years to sell their droids and become rich themselves.

So as you can see, the whole Universe is a very tiny place, revolving around the planet the farthest from the bright center of the universe, and a hand full of people, all starting with one man, named Darth Pegasus or Pleguis or something like it...

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Why don't we just disregard who the hell Anakin's father is, it just makes things worse.
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Holy cow I can't believe what this thread has turned into. I guess my last post was taken out of context. I never meant it to mean that the Jedi used the force to make babies. I meant maybe they breed amongst themselves.

And for the record, I believe Darth Plageus created Anakin. Not Palpatine.
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Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark

And for the record, I believe Darth Plageus created Anakin. Not Palpatine.


Well, who created Palpatine then? See, your theory has more holes than swiss cheese.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Fits pretty well with the entire prequel story arc. I think George likes swiss cheese quite a bit.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark

And for the record, I believe Darth Plageus created Anakin. Not Palpatine.


Well, who created Palpatine then? See, your theory has more holes than swiss cheese.


What does it matter who created Palpatine?

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Because if Plegius didn't create Palpatine, then it just muddles everything. I believe it is a Sith's duty to create their apprentices by ill means, while Jedi go and ask permission if they can take someones child or not. Obviously the Jedi were unaware of the mystery of the Sith (Windu mentions the mystery once, but the reason it is a mystery is because the Jedi don't know what it is). The mystery of the Sith is their manner of using the force to make women pregnant, then manipulating the lives of their child in order to assure that they become their apprentice. Even the apprentice doesn't know this is the case until they reach a certain hight of enlightenment and realize they must sire an apprentice of their own. This is why, with out a doubt, we can be sure Pleguis created Palptine, and Palpatine created Anakin. Also, it is essential to the Sith apprentice that they see their master as a father figure and a moral example. In this way the Sith master can properly corrupt his apprentice to be truely twisted and evil.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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So Sidious created Maul and Dooku? Come on. The only one who was "created" as Anakin. Thats why he is refered to as "the chosen one". Plageus was able to do it once, Palpatine knew Anakin would be all powerful, killed Plageus and waited patiently. Plageus could cheat death, so who knows how old Palpatine really is or how far back he goes. The Sith's one ultimate creation will be there un-doing.
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If you claim that Anakin was created by Palegius or Palpatine, then you are inherently accepting the concept of midichlorians, and therefore, believe that Jedi have lukemia and this gives them their powers. Plus, it was barely implied that Anakin was created by whatever Sith lord by manipulating midichlorians- it was just a pointless drivel to half-assedly explain Anakin's turn to the dark side. This is yet another point how ROTS ruined the SW saga yet again.
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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
If you claim that Anakin was created by Palegius or Palpatine, then you are inherently accepting the concept of midichlorians, and therefore, believe that Jedi have lukemia and this gives them their powers. Plus, it was barely implied that Anakin was created by whatever Sith lord by manipulating midichlorians- it was just a pointless drivel to half-assedly explain Anakin's turn to the dark side. This is yet another point how ROTS ruined the SW saga yet again.


How does that explain Anakin's turn at all? How he was conceived has nothing to do with it.
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"Plageus was able to do it once"

Unproven. Sidious was full of shit, and this lie just served his purposes.

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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"Plageus was able to do it once"

Unproven. Sidious was full of shit, and this lie just served his purposes.


All of this is unproven. It's just a theory.
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This whole creating life with midichlorians contributed to Anakin's turn because he was told that the dark side has the knowlegde to create life from midichlorians. Aankin had a dream where Padme dies in childbirth; unwilling to lose Padme, he turns to Palpatine and betrays the Jedi to try to save Padme's life, whether she was in danger or not. So essentially, the creation of life could prevent Padme's "death" by resurrecting her, and his attachment to her did him in. Does that explain your question Mark?
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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
This whole creating life with midichlorians contributed to Anakin's turn because he was told that the dark side has the knowlegde to create life from midichlorians. Aankin had a dream where Padme dies in childbirth; unwilling to lose Padme, he turns to Palpatine and betrays the Jedi to try to save Padme's life, whether she was in danger or not. So essentially, the creation of life could prevent Padme's "death" by resurrecting her, and his attachment to her did him in. Does that explain your question Mark?


Except that we now know it couldn't (creation of life preventing death) and that Palpatine was full of shit. Anakin is probably the only one that would continue to follow someone that in one breath said "I know the secret to eternal life" and in the next said "Together, we'll learn the secret to eternal life". WTF?!

Jedi interbreeding? Hmm, I guess that's a reasonable theory. That Aayla sure is a hotty anyway.
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"Anakin is probably the only one that would continue to follow someone that in one breath said "I know the secret to eternal life" and in the next said "Together, we'll learn the secret to eternal life". WTF?!"

Agreed. Not only that, but Padme's dea at this point anyways, so what difference does it make now (unless you believe it was a type of ressurecting power, which I do not.)

Either way, Palps has no real "hold" on Anakin now, at least nothing that can substantiate Anakin's fear for Palps in the OT.

Oh well....

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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
This whole creating life with midichlorians contributed to Anakin's turn because he was told that the dark side has the knowlegde to create life from midichlorians. Aankin had a dream where Padme dies in childbirth; unwilling to lose Padme, he turns to Palpatine and betrays the Jedi to try to save Padme's life, whether she was in danger or not. So essentially, the creation of life could prevent Padme's "death" by resurrecting her, and his attachment to her did him in. Does that explain your question Mark?


From a certain point of view. Except I think Anakin was always meant to be on the dark side. He was conceived to be sith. So, no matter what 'path' he followed, ultimately he would become evil. Padme or no Padme.
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Hey, Lucas wrote this awful tripe and now we must spend endless debate what it means
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Except I think Anakin was always meant to be on the dark side. He was conceived to be sith. So, no matter what 'path' he followed, ultimately he would become evil.


/speechless

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If Anakin was always evil, then why did Obi-Wan say he was once a good man in ROTJ? Lucas really messed it up- seriously, we should reject anything from the PT as non-canon.
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Except I think Anakin was always meant to be on the dark side. He was conceived to be sith. So, no matter what 'path' he followed, ultimately he would become evil.


/speechless


meaning what?
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He has lost his powers of speech.

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"meaning what? "

"If Anakin was always evil, then why did Obi-Wan say he was once a good man in ROTJ?


...and what was Padme talking about before she died, and what about the ending of ROTJ? Are you saying Anakin went against his purpose when he killed Palpatine?

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<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

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I think you missunderstood my post. I said he would BECOME evil. Even good people get lost along the way and make wrong choices.