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Mithrandir said:

There's one questionsurprisingly no one asked about all this huge news... which is who the villain/antihero would be.

Of course they'll make some guy appear... but can a Star Wars movie belong without Vader's armor, or Vader's character as THE driving force? Yes, the prequels tried; we all knew that the prequels were just an excuse to see Vader again, to see how he got to his OT-self; same for ObiWan; but I think I'm not lying if I say the prequels failed.

I think that even with the oldies recast, when this new trilogy hits the charts we'll come to understand that the character that has printed the saga with his signature will no longer be there, even more, he'll be dead by the second act of the saga (the OT), and it would be very, very notorious for us fans. So yes, it's a big emotion, and I'm loving to know that Luke, Han and Leia will be back, but I honestly can't see how much of it will feel Star Wars without the main secondary (I know, it's a contradiction, but I wrote it on purpose) characters. Ben, Yoda, Vader are out of this story.

And it's a great interrogant, whether a SW movie can be driven with characters such as Admiral Ackbar and etc. without the ones we are used to. Because to me, (and so for Lucas, judging by the TV spots of all the prequels), the most beloved character of the Saga is darth.

Hey all, I haven't posted in a while either, but this crazy news brought us all back haha. Well, I have an idea on how a create a great villian. (I dont have a full story line thought out, just rather a good way to create a villian that people can feel sorry for, then end up hating lol)

I haven't read any of the EU books or follow the EU at all really but I seem to remember reading online somewhere that in one of the novels that Han and Leia had twins (boy and girl I think).

So being that their Skywalker offspring, they surely would be gifted with strong Force ability. So both of course are in the Jedi Academy. My idea is that while both are doing well, the boy seems to show more promise and always seems to outshine his sister. (Siblings always have to live up to the one that everyone LOVES!)

She becomes angry and jellous and starts to act out. Finally, she goes to far somehow and is expelled, alligns with some evil doers and start some trouble for the Republic. There is even perfect way for Han to die, if indeed they decide to do him in. At some point, Han confronts her and tries to reason with her to stop and come home. Full of rage and anger flowing thru her, she strikes him down and completes the transfomation to the darkside. Then we get some Kane and Able style battle! 

I think Peter Jackson and WETA found a great middle-way with their films (especially LOTR), combining sets, green-screen, CGI and a lot of miniatures.

Hopefully the ST will have a bit more of an ethnic mix in it's human main character roster.

Cutting and pasting the same Maori a thousand million times is cheating George.

It always made me sad to note that the only latin looking Kenner Star Wars figure was the first Bespin Security guard.

It would be nice to have an Asian lead character in there seeing as so much of the inspiration for the series came from the Orient. 

Bingowings said:

It would be nice to have an Asian lead character in there seeing as so much of the inspiration for the series came from the Orient. 

This, to me, has been one of the supreme ironies of Star Wars for quite a while now.

I don't think there's even a single Asian extra in the OT, and I can count on one finger the number of Asian characters in the prequels (Bultar Swan).

On the Latin side of things, I think George always intended Alderaan to be the Mexico of that Galaxy Far, Far Away. From Wookieepedia:

George Lucas commented the hairstyle in Time magazine: "In the 1977 film, I was working very hard to create something different that wasn't fashion, so I went with a kind of Southwestern Pancho Villa woman revolutionary look, which is what that is. The buns are basically from turn-of-the-century Mexico."^[124]

Also, let's not forget that when George was making the original '77 film, he may very well have intended Leia to be Bail Organa's biological daughter and not his adopted daughter. It could just be a coincidence that Carrie Fisher has dark hair and dark eyes, but who knows?

Once we get to Clones and Sith, we've got Jimmy Smits playing Bail Organa. One of his senatorial aides was also hispanic, but I can't remember the character or actress' name.

Bingowings said:

...It would be nice to have an Asian lead character in there seeing as so much of the inspiration for the series came from the Orient. 

I guess the horribly stereotyped borderline racist nemodians don't count.

I agree that the galaxy needs more variety, and more women characters too.  Apparently there's only room for one woman in any given Lucas movie.

Fang Zei said:

 

I don't think there's even a single Asian extra in the OT, a

Another way Joss Whedon drew inspiration from Star Wars for Firefly.

On the Latin side of things, I think George always intended Alderaan to be the Mexico of that Galaxy Far, Far Away. 

My wife's Mexican, and her grandma used to rock those Leia buns in the 1940s.

Mithrandir said:

...but can a Star Wars movie belong without Vader's armor, or Vader's character as THE driving force? Yes, the prequels tried; we all knew that the prequels were just an excuse to see Vader again...

Prequel as an excuse to see Vader again? How much screen time did Vader got? A few seconds, maybe a minute in Episode III. The reason that prequels (and not sequels) were made because that was the easier thing to do; Lucas didn't have to figure out a whole new story with a new finale, only tell a story in details that had already been summarized. A cash-in of the classic trilogy.

ImperialFighter said:

As far as George himself is concerned, while I'm relieved he won't be the one to come up with the final scripts in future, I kinda wish he could *still* be the one that would have the final say when it comes to choosing *all* the final character/ship/set designs etc.

Hell no! I wish George Lucas NOT to have final say in ANYTHING. I'm grateful to George for creating the original trilogy and the Indiana Jones-movies, but the prequel trilogy proved that was all he had in him. If we want anything like the OT, someone else has to take over the creative decisions who has a good grasp of what made to the OT what it was, has fresh ideas and willing to carry on in the same spirit.

I'd prefer Luke not running a Jedi academy. He knows how dangerous the Force can be.

Could have a Jedi academy in the new movies, but Luke should not agree to run it, IMO. Maybe Leia could though; against Luke's advice maybe. There could be some sort of tension between them about this. But please no more Jedi endlessly walking on CG corridors, talking about how powerful some padawan is and how dangerous another is. We need adventure, fun, action, smart humor and tension. A little politic intrigue... yeah, why not, but in the background.

This whole business makes me wonder just how much effort will be put into making it all mesh with the EU.  I hope there isn't too much, as I've lost interest in most EU, and the EU I do like I don't always hold up as the same level of canon in my mind.  I'd love for these films to be largely independent of the EU, and most contradictions wouldn't offend me at all.

I wonder if it is even possible to have a whole new trilogy that doesn't contradict the EU. Personally, I think they should try to keep continuity, just because I think that would be cool for everyone. But the second they start bending over backwards to fit it, I would say press the reset button on the EU post-OT.

^I think this is a very good thing. And re: prequel merit - I personally believe the prequels do have merit, and could argue as to why, though I don't think there's much a point to that. The fact of the matter is, though, these films are NOT going to just ignore the prequels. It just won't happen.

Well, here's the thing:

It's been thirty years now - in real life - since Hamill, Ford and Fisher shot Return of the Jedi in 1982 (for an '83 release date).

In the EU, they're now up to 40 years after the events of ROTJ, but there's also a big gap of time between 26 and 31 years after ROTJ (the period of rebuilding after the Yuuzhan Vong War). They could easily set the new trilogy in that timeframe.

Either do that, or they could set it after the 40 year mark, age up the big three with makeup and let the EU authors know the premise of Episode VII so they can "build up" to it over the next couple years. That would be the smartest strategy, honestly.

It's also a question of what this new trilogy is gonna be about. They could make it have nothing to do with anything we've seen before if they wanted to. The possibility's are endless. I hope they don't box themselves in with the story just because they feel like they have to make certain "connections" to the other movies.