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Discussion & For Sale: STAR WARS and ESB 16mm scope prints on eBay!

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I wasn't aware that any full prints were struck in 16mm!  Anyone know anything else about this item?

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I used to have a lot of Super-8 digests of movies (Ken Films, Castle Films, etc) and I have a few items of memorabilia left.

One of the items that I have is a catalog for public institutions to rent movies to show; it is very interesting, especially the section that breaks down licensing fees and collecting entry fees.  This specific catalog was printed in 1975 so you have to bear in mind that it is from before Star Wars and it is also before the ubiquity of home video product (Beta/VHS > LD > DVD/BLR).

 

However, despite its age, just about everything is in this catalog.  Classics, new movies, foreign, there's no porn in it but they make it clear that some of the foreign films may have content not for kids.  I suspect the 16mm print was struck for some entity like this.

 

When I was college in the mid-1980's our union had a film society and they showed movies in the union.  Sometimes they procured older movies and sometimes we had films that were fairly contemporary.  I saw a lot of movies this way because admission was often free or just a buck which is hard to beat when you are in college.  Being a bit of a film geek/retarded development AV geek I can say that I would check out the projection equipment and I can say that sometimes we were watching pan and scan cuts of theatrical movies on 16 mm and sometimes it was 35 mm.  I have no idea what was used for inflight movies on airlines in the 70's but I think that you may also have a candidate for your source there.

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Hey Pugo -

 

I am fairly new to the forums and just figured out via this forum your work on converting over the old Ken films super-8 condensed versions.  I would love to see these, haven't seen them since I did a mashup/fanedit of everything I had (including film I busted out of those Kenner toy cranked film viewers) back around '84.

 

Are they being actively shared on the torrents, do you know?  I'm fairly new to this fanedit thing and it seems to me that when these things first come out folks are trading them hot and heavy and then the interest seems to fade away in seeding them.

 

Longshot here.....you wouldn't happen to have a scan of an old mailer from LA Films, would you?  The old photocopied catalog they used to mail every now and then to 'regular' customers?  It was a legal sized sheet of paper, printed both sides that broke down the new releases and what scenes made the 8-17 minute digests.  I tell people about this stuff and they look at me like I am crazy.

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regularjoe said:

I am fairly new to the forums and just figured out via this forum your work on converting over the old Ken films super-8 condensed versions.  I would love to see these, haven't seen them since I did a mashup/fanedit of everything I had (including film I busted out of those Kenner toy cranked film viewers) back around '84.

No problem. I also did a conversion of a 16mm full length SW print, called the "Puggo Grande".  My sig has links to all the details of both the 8mm and 16mm captures.  I'll also be doing a 16mm print of ESB soon. And regarding those hand-cranked viewers, I have a capture of one of those up on YouTube (search for "Rescuing Star Wars"), and am working on the remaining ones. If you follow check out the Puggo Grande thread, you'll learn more than you'd ever want to know about these efforts.

I just do the restoration, I don't distribute them.  I think they get torrented now and then.

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Couple weeks now and no luck with "live' torrents of this.

Quick question for you - are the transfers that you did just the 2 x 400' reels for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back or did you use any film from the original 200' reel that came out for Star Wars?  If I recall correctly, the scenes in Ben's hut on the first reel that came out were mostly complete and then were reprised in truncated form on the first 400' reel that came out that had scene digests beyond Ben's hut and the escape from the Death Star.

 

 

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regularjoe said:

Couple weeks now and no luck with "live' torrents of this.

Quick question for you - are the transfers that you did just the 2 x 400' reels for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back or did you use any film from the original 200' reel that came out for Star Wars?  If I recall correctly, the scenes in Ben's hut on the first reel that came out were mostly complete and then were reprised in truncated form on the first 400' reel that came out that had scene digests beyond Ben's hut and the escape from the Death Star.

I did two different telecines:

1. "puggo edition" - this is the 400' super8 highlight reels for SW and ESB.

2. "puggo grande" - this is the entire SW film in 16mm.  See the links in my sig for more information.

If you are right and the 200' SW reel has some footage that the others don't, I will want to follow up on that.  Thanks for the lead.

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It's been years since I watched the reels and when I penned my last post I was even doubting my own memory.   You know, back in the late 70's I bought some of those reels multiple times based on ability to afford, what my local K-Mart had to sell or I could find through LA Films and the various iterations of it released by Ken Films.  At one point I had a b&w silent reel because that was all that I could get my hands on.  Eventually we had a sound reel available but I didn't have a sound projector.  I was an ignorant kid and I thought if I ran the sound film through a silent projector that I would somehow damage the film, so I waited until I received a sound projector as a gift before setting my goals on the sound reels.

 

I recently found this site...

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi

 

and in a thread about movie reviews other folks mention what I did here

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000045

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The real gem to find here is the Ken 200ft version. It opens with this scene, but has Ben giving Luke his father's light sabre and Luke waving it around! It also has more at the end of the scene with Luke protesting about going to Alderaan with Ben!

 

There were some real blasts from the past for me in this forum, I had totally forgotten about the early TESB reel that I bought that was silent but came with a cassette tape that you had to try to sync with the projector.  

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That's rare for ebay. They almost never have complete 35mm prints up for sale.

Lot of fading though.

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Too bad someone here with the resource to do it couldn't take a shot at this and give it a proper restoration......it would be nice to have.

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Hello to everyone this mesage is for rsortor,

I have two Star wars 16mm prints that are in mint condition:THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF HE JEDI.  Both are available for sale please email me for the prices.  Also available is a nice 16mm projector if you dont have one.  email me at hoserjewl@excite.com if interested.

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Another 16mm ESB print just popped up on Ebay:

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575033532&toolid=10001&campid=5337201588&customid=ESB16mm&icep_item=360968845808&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

Also Raiders of the Lost Ark:

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575033532&toolid=10001&campid=5337201588&customid=Raiders16mm&icep_item=360968845793&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

And E.T.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575033532&toolid=10001&campid=5337201588&customid=ET16mm&icep_item=360968845815&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

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