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Don'tcha think the FBI should take all of the agents surfing P2P sites and put them on something important ... like, oh, catching Bin Laden or something?
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Just wanted to state that I will not be buying ANY CD's or DVD's this Xmas season in protest!

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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Don'tcha think the FBI should take all of the agents surfing P2P sites and put them on something important ... like, oh, catching Bin Laden or something?


Agreed.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Don'tcha think the FBI should take all of the agents surfing P2P sites and put them on something important ... like, oh, catching Bin Laden or something?


And who said the FBI was the one doing the surfing? In all the cases I've ever read about, it's the RIAA or equivalent for that country. They usually notify the FBI or whoever and then proceed to do a raid.

And FYI, the FBI would not be involved in catching bin Laden. That goes to the CIA.
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Gee, lordjedi is arguing with me again. What a fucking surprise. Seriously, it's one thing to hate my ass openly, it's another thing to argue against everything I say regardless of any basis in fact. It only goes to strengthen my arguments overall when you chime in. Okay, school's in, kiddies:

1) Read up on the Piracy Deterrence and Education Act of 2003, the Direct Connect Sting and Operation D-Elite. Then get back to me on how the FBI is not doing any of the P2P surfing themselves. Warning ... the latter has ACTUAL STAR WARS CONTENT for all you Elitist Star Wars Fanboy Dipshites [sic].

2) Unless you think he's hanging out in Dearborn, MI, please explain to all of us why Bin Laden remains on the FBI's most wanted list if they're not actually looking for him. You know, it's not just the CIA's job; the FBI does operate internationally to catch criminals who have acted on domestic soil. And Bin Laden indeed has indeed perpetrated criminal actions on our soil (please argue against me on that). The FBI is integral to the War on Terror abroad. But don't take it from me, take it from Dubya hisownself.

So I obstinately stick by my guns (just like anybody who still supports Bush) and I reiterate that the FBI needs to focus more of its energy on capturing Bin Laden and not so much on shutting down P2P networks. And for the record, I don't use P2P networks. I merely have a sense of priority.
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Well, I think Lordjedi does have a point--its not like their are squads of FBI agents surfing the net full-time looking for teenagers downloading Nickelback illegally. Most the time it is private organisations like the RIAA, who are looking out for their own interests and are the appointed regulators of the music industry, who assign specialists to smoke out illegal downloaders and then alert the FBI, who then investigate and/or take action. Its still a huge waste of national resources but its not always quite as absurd as we like to portray it.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Gee, lordjedi is arguing with me again. What a fucking surprise. Seriously, it's one thing to hate my ass openly, it's another thing to argue against everything I say regardless of any basis in fact. It only goes to strengthen my arguments overall when you chime in. Okay, school's in, kiddies:

1) Read up on the Piracy Deterrence and Education Act of 2003, the Direct Connect Sting and Operation D-Elite. Then get back to me on how the FBI is not doing any of the P2P surfing themselves. Warning ... the latter has ACTUAL STAR WARS CONTENT for all you Elitist Star Wars Fanboy Dipshites [sic].

2) Unless you think he's hanging out in Dearborn, MI, please explain to all of us why Bin Laden remains on the FBI's most wanted list if they're not actually looking for him. You know, it's not just the CIA's job; the FBI does operate internationally to catch criminals who have acted on domestic soil. And Bin Laden indeed has indeed perpetrated criminal actions on our soil (please argue against me on that). The FBI is integral to the War on Terror abroad. But don't take it from me, take it from Dubya hisownself.

So I obstinately stick by my guns (just like anybody who still supports Bush) and I reiterate that the FBI needs to focus more of its energy on capturing Bin Laden and not so much on shutting down P2P networks. And for the record, I don't use P2P networks. I merely have a sense of priority.


Did you even read the links you provided? Only ONE, the second ONE, mentions ONE FBI agent becoming a member of that underground network. The last one says at the BOTTOM that the MPAA assisted. To me, that says the MPAA saw it and reported it. The first one is just the text of a bill that grants the FBI the ability to ENFORCE the law. You want to get pissy about that? Blame Congress, not the FBI.

Since I HIGHLY doubt the FBI is over in Pakistan or Afghanistan looking for bin Laden, he's on the most wanted list so that if people or agents see him in the USA, he'll be arrested on the spot. The FBI doesn't do nearly as much work abroad as the CIA. That's the CIAs job. Yeah, the FBI are instrumental because they can operate across state lines, unlike local police.

I think everybody here knows that 10 people were arrested in connection with the early released copy of ROTS that showed up on bittorrent sites. Both of the links you provided that they did indeed raid the offices of those guys, but only the last link mentions a single FBI agent becoming a member. That's no different from covertly joining a mob group in order to take down the whole group. But I guess they shouldn't do that either, should they.

For the record, I would've given the same reply to anyone else that made a statement like that. Unfortunately for you, it's always you that makes those statements.
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Did you even read the links you provided? Only ONE, the second ONE, mentions ONE FBI agent becoming a member of that underground network.
Either you didn't read, or you're myopically trying to apply a very narrow definition to the discussion.

And you've still failed to address the other points. Such as this retarded statement:
And FYI, the FBI would not be involved in catching bin Laden. That goes to the CIA.

My nominee for stupidest ... statement ... ever.

Quite simply, you are disagreeing with me because I raised the point that Bin Laden should be a higher priority than P2P downloaders. And you'll type incessantly to prove otherwise because this came from me and not just anybody. Methinks ye doth protest too much. You have such a hard-on for my posts that I think you secretly have a crush on me. It's like you're trying to dip my proverbial pigtails into the inkwell. Sorry to let you down in a public place like this, but I just don't dig on guys. But if you keep looking then one day you'll meet a really nice fellow who will let you be the alpha male and make your life complete.
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Well, I always thought: "FBI -> USA", "CIA -> rest of the world". And since we can assume Bin Laden isn't in the US it's the job of the CIA to catch him, not the FBI. But I don't really know much about it.
Still, those FBI guys have better things to do than worry about p2p stuff.
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Well, I always thought: "FBI -> USA", "CIA -> rest of the world". And since we can assume Bin Laden isn't in the US it's the job of the CIA to catch him, not the FBI. But I don't really know much about it.
Still, those FBI guys have better things to do than worry about p2p stuff.


The FBI does handle federal crimes which occur in the United States, however, many times those crimes may be perpetrated from outside the U.S. and they have to go worldwide to coduct the investigation. There are FBI agents in Afganistan and Iraq working conjointly with other sections to capture terrorists. There are also agents in United States who specialize in priracy and domestic crimes who do that around the clock.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Well, I always thought: "FBI -> USA", "CIA -> rest of the world". And since we can assume Bin Laden isn't in the US it's the job of the CIA to catch him, not the FBI. But I don't really know much about it.
Still, those FBI guys have better things to do than worry about p2p stuff.


The FBI does handle federal crimes which occur in the United States, however, many times those crimes may be perpetrated from outside the U.S. and they have to go worldwide to coduct the investigation. There are FBI agents in Afganistan and Iraq working conjointly with other sections to capture terrorists. There are also agents in United States who specialize in priracy and domestic crimes who do that around the clock.

That makes sense.

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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Did you even read the links you provided? Only ONE, the second ONE, mentions ONE FBI agent becoming a member of that underground network.
Either you didn't read, or you're myopically trying to apply a very narrow definition to the discussion.

Oh, sorry, oh great one. I didn't read the 10-20 pages of links you provided. I looked through them briefly. The second link mentioned "Agent". SINGULAR!!! If somewhere in one of those documents it mentions multiple agents, please quote the relevant section or at least tell me about where it is. I'm not going to read through the text of a Congressional bill just to satisfy your sorry ass.

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
And you've still failed to address the other points. Such as this retarded statement:
And FYI, the FBI would not be involved in catching bin Laden. That goes to the CIA.

My nominee for stupidest ... statement ... ever.

Quite simply, you are disagreeing with me because I raised the point that Bin Laden should be a higher priority than P2P downloaders. And you'll type incessantly to prove otherwise because this came from me and not just anybody. Methinks ye doth protest too much. You have such a hard-on for my posts that I think you secretly have a crush on me. It's like you're trying to dip my proverbial pigtails into the inkwell. Sorry to let you down in a public place like this, but I just don't dig on guys. But if you keep looking then one day you'll meet a really nice fellow who will let you be the alpha male and make your life complete.


Don't flatter yourself asshat. Your original statement had an air of "The entire bureau is off trying to catch p2p downloaders when they should all be focused on bin Laden". Gimme a break. The FBI isn't solely focused on catching P2P downloaders, just like they aren't solely focused on trying to catch bin Laden.

I made an assumption, apparently a bad thing to do around you, that by saying "It goes to the CIA" that that would be taken to mean that INTERNATIONALLY, the CIA is probably actively looking for bin Laden right now. Somehow, I seriously doubt that there are FBI agents in Afghanistan or Pakistan looking for bin Laden.

And FYI, I disagree with ANYBODY that thinks the FBI shouldn't be enforcing the law. That is clearly what they were doing when they went after those P2P sites. Whether you think that P2P downloading SHOULD be legal or not is a different matter. If you don't like it, petition your congress critter to change the law.
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Did you even read the links you provided? Only ONE, the second ONE, mentions ONE FBI agent becoming a member of that underground network.
Either you didn't read, or you're myopically trying to apply a very narrow definition to the discussion.

Oh, sorry, oh great one. I didn't read the 10-20 pages of links you provided. I looked through them briefly. The second link mentioned "Agent". SINGULAR!!! If somewhere in one of those documents it mentions multiple agents, please quote the relevant section or at least tell me about where it is. I'm not going to read through the text of a Congressional bill just to satisfy your sorry ass.

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
And you've still failed to address the other points. Such as this retarded statement:
And FYI, the FBI would not be involved in catching bin Laden. That goes to the CIA.

My nominee for stupidest ... statement ... ever.

Quite simply, you are disagreeing with me because I raised the point that Bin Laden should be a higher priority than P2P downloaders. And you'll type incessantly to prove otherwise because this came from me and not just anybody. Methinks ye doth protest too much. You have such a hard-on for my posts that I think you secretly have a crush on me. It's like you're trying to dip my proverbial pigtails into the inkwell. Sorry to let you down in a public place like this, but I just don't dig on guys. But if you keep looking then one day you'll meet a really nice fellow who will let you be the alpha male and make your life complete.


Somehow, I seriously doubt that there are FBI agents in Afghanistan or Pakistan looking for bin Laden.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2210718,00.html


http://www.theage.com.au/news/iraq/iraq-ready-to-accept-fbi-help/2005/07/04/1120329352843.html

http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel04/051204berg.htm


http://www.fbi.gov/page2/june06/kabul_legat062106.htm

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/EJ04Df04.html

I can go on and on with this, the FBI is over there, have no doubt about it. I have a buddy who is now FBI who used to work with me. He can't tell me everything he does, but he is assigned to Iraq.
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Originally posted by: ferris209

I can go on and on with this, the FBI is over there, have no doubt about it. I have a buddy who is now FBI who used to work with me. He can't tell me everything he does, but he is assigned to Iraq.

Indeed, they are there, thank you for backing up the premise. And there needs to be more of them there. And we have these teams working on p2p. A little reprioritization is all that's needed.
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Well, BACK ON TOPIC, word on Demonoid's IRC (or whatever type of communication system it is) is that the site WILL be back up. They just don't know when. And the people on the Demonoiders forum are relatively optimistic.