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Does anyone have any Deleted Scenes for the Original Trilogy?

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There is a ton of info on my "lost footage" thread in this forum...look there.
16 years I wait and this is what I get???
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There is a large debate on why the 2004 DVD release contains no deleted scenes. Someone at the comicon asked this question. Apparently it was stated that for the DVD release he wanted to finish all the deleted scenes the same way as the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones DVD. With production of Revenge of the Sith he had no time to do that this release. So we will get deleted scenes in the DVDs for the Ultimate Edition HD-DVD.
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Of course this release won't include deleted scenes. They are saving it for another money grab, I mean another release! Did I say money grab? Lucas? NOOOOOO! By the way, www.georgelucasisanasshole.com is coming along quite well!
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Well I always thought the Luke and Biggs scene on Tatooine should be in the movie, since Luke references this conversation when he angrily walks away from his uncle at the dinner table. But if deleted scenes are going to be included, the only fair thing to do would be to include stuff like Han shooting Greedo first, Vader saying, "Bring my shuttle!," and the Lapti Nek scene. What are the chances of Lucas acknowledging THESE ever existed?
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Excellent point! Technically, they are deleted scenes.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
There is a large debate on why the 2004 DVD release contains no deleted scenes. Someone at the comicon asked this question. Apparently it was stated that for the DVD release he wanted to finish all the deleted scenes the same way as the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones DVD. With production of Revenge of the Sith he had no time to do that this release. So we will get deleted scenes in the DVDs for the Ultimate Edition HD-DVD.


But won't there be any deleted scene on the special features dvd?
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Originally posted by: rennervision
Well I always thought the Luke and Biggs scene on Tatooine should be in the movie, since Luke references this conversation when he angrily walks away from his uncle at the dinner table. But if deleted scenes are going to be included, the only fair thing to do would be to include stuff like Han shooting Greedo first, Vader saying, "Bring my shuttle!," and the Lapti Nek scene. What are the chances of Lucas acknowledging THESE ever existed?


I am sure he will show alot of the original footage in the documentary. He will probably go through them and explain why he did them. Or at least all the major ones. Plus an extra line or shot doesn't make it a deleted scene. No whole scenes were lost in the Special Edition making.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: jimbo
There is a large debate on why the 2004 DVD release contains no deleted scenes. Someone at the comicon asked this question. Apparently it was stated that for the DVD release he wanted to finish all the deleted scenes the same way as the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones DVD. With production of Revenge of the Sith he had no time to do that this release. So we will get deleted scenes in the DVDs for the Ultimate Edition HD-DVD.


But won't there be any deleted scene on the special features dvd?


No there won't. Read the list of extras. Definutly no deleted scenes.
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I would imagine the reason for no deleted scenes is Lucas's fear that people will edit them back into the film. I know that if he made the Sandstorm scene from ROTJ availible completed, I'd be firing up DVDDecrypter and putting that sucker back in the film itself.

Plus, once the fan have the footage, they won't ever pay to go see a re-edited OT in theaters again.....not that anyone from this site would anyways.
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
I would imagine the reason for no deleted scenes is Lucas's fear that people will edit them back into the film. I know that if he made the Sandstorm scene from ROTJ availible completed, I'd be firing up DVDDecrypter and putting that sucker back in the film itself.

Plus, once the fan have the footage, they won't ever pay to go see a re-edited OT in theaters again.....not that anyone from this site would anyways.


You guys and your fucking consperacy theroys on Lucas. He released deleted scenes for the prequel DVDs. Come on considering how Revenge of Sith is absolutly huge we are lucky to be getting DVDs at all.
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Calm down, man! You know as well as anybody there will be several releases on DVD. Each one will be ever so different, and will include a "must have" scene or whatever. The point is, IT's A HUGE MONEY GRAB! Not just Lucas, but all the tight-ass suits at Lucasfilm, Fox & whatever. Do you think those prequel DVD's would have sold well if there was no deleted scenes or 8hrs. of extras? (or whatever it was).
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Originally posted by: Mr.Coffee
Calm down, man! You know as well as anybody there will be several releases on DVD. Each one will be ever so different, and will include a "must have" scene or whatever. The point is, IT's A HUGE MONEY GRAB! Not just Lucas, but all the tight-ass suits at Lucasfilm, Fox & whatever. Do you think those prequel DVD's would have sold well if there was no deleted scenes or 8hrs. of extras? (or whatever it was).


Yeah so what. I am happy to have the current best version of the movies on the DVD format with great video and audio and a decent set of extras. Its the same as the dumbasses who tell me not to buy DVDs because of the HD-DVD format. Something better is always coming on everything. Yeah there will be a better release. It won't be for at least two years and there will definutly be no new release in 2005. So what. Personally I will never buy them again on this format. But yeah in 2007 I will be there to buy the 6 movie HD-DVD pack. To watch all 6 Star Wars in high definition won't be something I will pass up.
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I would like for the some of the wampa scenes to be added into the Ultimate Edition. I would really like the wampas to kill some clones. I also like the Tatoinne Biggs scene.
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are the Stormtroopers in the original trilogy clones?

I always thought that by the time of A New Hope the Empire was using conscripted armed forces ( In the ANH radio drama Luke was applying to the Imperial Academy) , and that the use of Clones ended back in the days of the clone wars, I doubt they could constantly churn out Jango clones forever, and the clones from AOTC would only have a limited shelf life, what happens to Clones when they are too old to fight? Old Clones Home? and surely all the Imperial officers in the original trilogy rose up through the ranks of Troops and none of them look like Jango Fett.

I think this will probably be explained in episode 3
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Originally posted by: buddy-x-wing
are the Stormtroopers in the original trilogy clones?

I always thought that by the time of A New Hope the Empire was using conscripted armed forces ( In the ANH radio drama Luke was applying to the Imperial Academy) , and that the use of Clones ended back in the days of the clone wars, I doubt they could constantly churn out Jango clones forever, and the clones from AOTC would only have a limited shelf life, what happens to Clones when they are too old to fight? Old Clones Home? and surely all the Imperial officers in the original trilogy rose up through the ranks of Troops and none of them look like Jango Fett.

I think this will probably be explained in episode 3


Old clones are turned into Soylent Green which the Empire distributes to the rim territories.

I subscribe to the conscript theory ala TROOPS.

I always figured the clones were all dead by the time of the OT. Though it's not explicitly mentioned anywhere I assumed the cloned soldiers had shorter lifespans or something. And since I choose to ignore any changes which bastardise the OT and for the most part I also choose to ignore the PT films until I see MF's versions of them, I can still hold this view without any contradictions being enforced upon me by LFL.
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Originally posted by: buddy-x-wing
are the Stormtroopers in the original trilogy clones?

I always thought that by the time of A New Hope the Empire was using conscripted armed forces ( In the ANH radio drama Luke was applying to the Imperial Academy) , and that the use of Clones ended back in the days of the clone wars, I doubt they could constantly churn out Jango clones forever, and the clones from AOTC would only have a limited shelf life, what happens to Clones when they are too old to fight? Old Clones Home? and surely all the Imperial officers in the original trilogy rose up through the ranks of Troops and none of them look like Jango Fett.

I think this will probably be explained in episode 3


"Aren't you alittle short for a stormtrooper" because there all the same.

Lucas stated in the commentary for Attack of the Clones that the stormtroopers are clones of Jango. In the movies they appeared to follow orders without any humanity and had no fear of death. You can't train that. There genetically born that way. If they are not clones then why are they all human. Why not have a variety of races recuitted.
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"Aren't you alittle short for a stormtrooper" because there all the same.


Luke is not tall, it was a gag. You obviously didn't get it.

Aren't you a little short, fat, young and stupid to be a soldier/cop/fireman/Secret Service Agent?

I'm sure it may surprise you to learn that there are certain height requirements that potential applicants must meet in order to become one of the above. Even in times of conscription unsuitable height is still one of the reasons for rejection. They seek physical and mental uniformity in these services and then re-enforce conformity to set standards by the enforcement of the wearing of uniforms.

Are they all clones?

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Lucas stated in the commentary for Attack of the Clones that the stormtroopers are clones of Jango. In the movies they appeared to follow orders without any humanity and had no fear of death. You can't train that. There genetically born that way.


Bullshit.

Are militant Jihad suicide bombers clones? They fear not death and, right or wrong (wrong), they will fight to the death for the cause that they believe in. So too do the brave US and Coalition soldiers sent off to parts unknown by corrupt administrations to fight to the death for the cause. They are to follow orders unquestioningly and as part of their training they are broken down from individuals and rebuilt as essential parts of a whole unit, but none more important than the whole. Of course they fear death, only sociopaths and people who believe in fairytales do not but those people are usually vetted out in the selection process.

Surely these brave soldiers are not also clones of Jango?

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If they are not clones then why are they all human. Why not have a variety of races recuitted.


Because the Empire is run by racial supremacists who believe that there is one perfect race and that all others are of lesser worth and therefore must be ensalved and subjugated pursuant to the will and desires of The Empire. Haven't you ever wondered why there weren't more Negros and Jews in the Nazis?
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Goebbels.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - Orwell.
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Reg, while I agree with your arguments and I, too, viewed Stormtroopers as a volunteer or drafted army of actual humans and whatnot, it's hard to argue with what Lucas says in commentary. Maybe at the time of the original release of the OT, this was not the case. And it can be argued as such by looking at physical and vocal variations in the Stormtroopers. But I wouldn't doubt that if Lucas could go back now and make all these "differences" uniform among all Stormtroopers, that he most certainly would. And, given time, he might just do that (2007 30th anniversary release?). Please, let's not give the man any more ideas.
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it obvious that the Stormtroopers are not clones jimbo...
you really have to give up on this argument...

even in the scene where Ben turns off the tractor beam we hear two Stormtroopers talking clearly with different voices....
and since these take place after the whole clone crap.... its obvious that they arent clones...

and i always compared the Stormtroopers to the SS...
look at the way they walk, march and stand... compare that to the Nazi soldiers and tell me their not identical...

Regicidal_Maniac is completely right when he said

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They fear not death and, right or wrong (wrong), they will fight to the death for the cause that they believe in. So too do the brave US and Coalition soldiers sent off to parts unknown by corrupt administrations to fight to the death for the cause. They are to follow orders unquestioningly and as part of their training they are broken down from individuals and rebuilt as essential parts of a whole unit, but none more important than the whole. Of course they fear death, only sociopaths and people who believe in fairytales do not but those people are usually vetted out in the selection process.


thats what i think anyway
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