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Darth Bane Novel: A Great Exploration of the Dark Side

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Hey, has anyone else read the novel Darth Bane: Path of Destruction by Drew Karpyshyn?

I loved it! Karpyshyn, lead writer on the Stars Wars: Knights of the Old Republic video game, did an awesome job describing Darth Bane's fall to the Dark Side as well as demonstrate the Dark Side's nature and power.

Now, if only someone would do the same for the Light Side.
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Would it help get discussion rolling if I assure everyone that I am no fan of the PT but still enjoyed this book?

A similar storyline for Anakin in the movies would have been a much more satisfactory fall.
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It's not a problem to like the PT on these boards. It's only a problem if you're being a disrespectful arse about it.

But back on topic: Perhaps the problem is, that not many people, like myself, may know the book. I'm not all to deep into the EU stuff, but I might check out that book. So, thanks for the headsup.
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There is a sequel coming out near Christmas. There was supposed to be a Dartth Plagieus novel by James Luceno coming out, but it got scrapped so they decided to have a sequel to the Darth Bane novel published in its place.


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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
It's not a problem to like the PT on these boards. It's only a problem if you're being a disrespectful arse about it.
"I'll be careful" (a little OT nod since that's where my heart is anyway).

But back on topic: Perhaps the problem is, that not many people, like myself, may know the book. I'm not all to deep into the EU stuff, but I might check out that book. So, thanks for the headsup.

Definitely a good read that takes the Star Wars universe seriously AND makes it believable. I hope you enjoy. I just looked it up, and it's out in paperback this month!

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Originally posted by: Marvolo
There was supposed to be a Dartth Plagieus novel by James Luceno coming out, but it got scrapped so they decided to have a sequel to the Darth Bane novel published in its place.

That makes me happy. Thanks for the background on the publishing decision. The name "Plagieus" itself would make me fear that the book would be bad, but I wasn't enthralled with the character name "Bane" either. Is Luceno a good author?

I just looked it up, and the new book is titled "Darth Bane: Rule of Two", which sounds like it will start directly after the first one? That would be cool.
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Originally posted by: darkhelmet[Is Luceno a good author?


I have mixed feelings about him. I thought Labyrinth of Evil--prequel to ROTS--was good, but Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader was god-awful. One of the worst SW novels ever (that I've read: I avoid the NJO and the KotOR eras).

Luceno wrote the e-novel, Darth Maul: Saboteur, which you may want to check out to see how he handles Bane.

According to Wikipedia, citing the SW Insider, Luceno had planned to write about the quest for immortality of Qui-Gon and Darth Plagueis, but this was put on hold due to "continuity concerns."

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Originally posted by: darkhelmet
Originally posted by: Marvolo
There was supposed to be a Dartth Plagieus novel by James Luceno coming out, but it got scrapped so they decided to have a sequel to the Darth Bane novel published in its place.

That makes me happy. Thanks for the background on the publishing decision. The name "Plagieus" itself would make me fear that the book would be bad, but I wasn't enthralled with the character name "Bane" either. Is Luceno a good author?

I just looked it up, and the new book is titled "Darth Bane: Rule of Two", which sounds like it will start directly after the first one? That would be cool.


The book about Plagieus is about Plapatine/Darth Sidious' master.


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Originally posted by: kmcherry
I have mixed feelings about him. I thought Labyrinth of Evil--prequel to ROTS--was good, but Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader was god-awful. One of the worst SW novels ever (that I've read: I avoid the NJO and the KotOR eras).

Luceno wrote the e-novel, Darth Maul: Saboteur, which you may want to check out to see how he handles Bane.
Ooo, an e-novel! Cool. I'll have to check out that and Labyrinth. Thanks, km!

According to Wikipedia, citing the SW Insider, Luceno had planned to write about the quest for immortality of Qui-Gon and Darth Plagueis, but this was put on hold due to "continuity concerns."

LOL! "Continuity concerns"! Since when has that bothered Lucas? Sounds like it could be cool, though, seeing that quest into the Force from both Dark and Light Side perspectives.
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
The book about Plagieus is about Plapatine/Darth Sidious' master.

I always thought that whole story-telling bit at the opera house in Episode 3 sounded a little transparent.

Lucas was like, "Ooh, I'm so insuating! Palpatine's telling the story like it is just a story, but it's really about him as a younger Sith! Oh, goody. It's so dramatic!" I wish someone had been there to tell him, "Uh, George, the audience already knows that Palpatine is Sidious."

You can't have it both ways when telling a story, either a character's duality is a surprise or it's not. oh, well. <darkhelmet climbs down from soapbox>

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there is going to be a second darth bane novel. a sequel of which the working title is rule of two. supposed to be another hardback coming out suppodesly late in the year.

i enjoyed the dark horse mini series jedi vs sith that besides Kevin Anderson's short story was the first appearance of him.

the special sith issue of insider by karpshyn was really cool. will have to read path to destruction.

I loved Kotor 1, and Kotor 2 was ok. Wish they had a third one on the 360.

speaking of the film of revenge of the sith at least Lucas did not use what he had wrote in one of the drafts where palpatine had created anakin through a tenchnique plagueis taught him to infleunce midiclorians, vader being lukes daddy was enough. the emperor being luke's grandfather would have been laughable.

never mind how the whole rule of two continuity Lucas put into place is completely ignored in the game force unleashed which lucas helped co-author.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
there is going to be a second darth bane novel. a sequel of which the working title is rule of two. supposed to be another hardback coming out suppodesly late in the year.
Yeah, it's not quite available for Christmas unfortunately. It comes out Dec 26 ( publishing info ).
i enjoyed the dark horse mini series jedi vs sith that besides Kevin Anderson's short story was the first appearance of him.
Where can I find said short story?
the special sith issue of insider by karpshyn was really cool.
It was issue entirely by him? That sounds interesting. Was it an expose of him as a writer and Star Wars guy?
will have to read path to destruction.

Can't recommend it highly enough.
I loved Kotor 1, and Kotor 2 was ok. Wish they had a third one on the 360.

I haven't played KOTOR 2 enough to compare, but I loved KOTOR 1. Definitely.
the emperor being luke's grandfather would have been laughable.

You said it. As if midichlorians hadn't screwed up Star Wars enough already.
never mind how the whole rule of two continuity Lucas put into place is completely ignored in the game force unleashed which lucas helped co-author.

How is that? I don't mind Vader having a secret apprentice if it mean that his arrogance was so great that he thought he could overthrow the Emperor despite all he still had to learn from him.

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Just wanted to bump this. I recently read both Bane novels and, while the first is better, both do a better job of charting the fall to the dark side of Bane (first book) and his apprentice (second) than anything Lucas has ever been involved with.

I didn't think Jedi vs. Sith was that great, but the novels were well done.

I'd say worth a read for the Star Wars fans, and I'm not a huge EU fan apart from the first Zahn trilogy.
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I read the first book and quite liked it.  It wasn't the best, but it seemed to be good enough.  I started reading the 2nd, and so far I'm just not into it.  Then I made the mistake of reading Jedi vs Sith and finding them to tell the same story?  What happened there?

Should I push through the rest of two and get into three?  Or should I just quit while I'm ahead?

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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xhonzi said:

I read the first book and quite liked it.  It wasn't the best, but it seemed to be good enough.  I started reading the 2nd, and so far I'm just not into it.  Then I made the mistake of reading Jedi vs Sith and finding them to tell the same story?  What happened there?

Should I push through the rest of two and get into three?  Or should I just quit while I'm ahead?

I'd say quit. It's an amusing yarn but it hinges on the Rule of Two, which dramatically doesn't work for me, as it depends on ALL evil Jedi-types to have more devotion to their religious dogma than they have self-preservation instincts.

BANE: "I am so freaking evil and I'll do anything for greater power and knowledge, especially my pursuit of immortality, in which I am unimpeded by scruples. On the other hand I need to train my apprentice to kill me."

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Book has been returned to library.  Now I'm off to read a short synopsis.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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I think Path of Destruction is the best book in the Bane trilogy ... which isn't saying much.