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Dark Knight Rises - Now that we know the cast

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I'm not really sure what my thoughts are.  I did see a video by one internet reviewer who brought up the point that, with Rachel dead, there are literally no female characters left in this franchise, so bringing in Catwoman is a good idea from that standpoint.  That said, I have to say I was on the bandwagon of people who thought that they'd completely try to avoid Catwoman due to the atrocious Halle Berry movie.  As for Tom Hardy, I don't really know anything about him (I got Inception for Christmas but haven't watched it yet), but from the Wikipedia image I pulled up... he doesn't exactly look like he has the, for lack of a better term, extreme physique I associate with Bane.  But surely anything they do will be better than his role in Batman & Robin.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Re: Tom Hardy

This is Tom Hardy. The film is Bronson. It and he is insane.

Of course he is in Inception which is kind of his break out hollywood role. And Nolan loves repeat business with his actors.

Hardy also has a supporting role as the chemist in the Mathew Vaughn directed Daniel Craig starring Layer Cake. Love that movie. And Hardy also played Handsome Bob in the substandard Guy Ritchie movie Rocknrolla. That's everything I've seen him in.

And as for Hathaway she's pretty decent. I'm not a huge fan of hers but I don't dislike her either. A few too many fanboys derided Nolan for casting "ugly" female leads in Holmes and Gyllenhaal, what will they make of Hathaway? He's certainly not unattractive but she does have an odd look with that huge grin in a Julia Roberts clone sort of way.

But I trust Nolan's casting. She's properly the actress out of all the reported women who read for the role, even if I'd prefer to see Eva Green or Gemma Arterton in a catsuit. Although Miss Hathaway in Brokeback Mountain in that one scene was pretty awesome.

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hmmm,  so Bane is in this one . . . interesting. 

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Gaffer Tape said:

 from the Wikipedia image I pulled up... he doesn't exactly look like he has the, for lack of a better term, extreme physique I associate with Bane.

the right costuming and makeup can do wonders. 

Gaffer Tape said:

  But surely anything they do will be better than his role in Batman & Robin.

yes, lets hope in this Bane(the man that broke The Bat in the comics)  isn't just some mindless henchman for another villain.  The people that thought that was a good a idea should be shot.  

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It's interesting that the press release only mentions Selina Kyle, of course Catwoman (even if not mentioned by name) will show up at one point. Actually that would be pretty cool if they don't call her Catwoman at all. Selina Kyle by day mysterious unnamed burglar by night?

The industry speculation or "rumors" going around when various actresses were reading with Bale were that Nolan was casting two roles for two different actresses. 1. The love interest in a Vicki Vale/Rachel Dawes sense and 2. The other was the villain Catwoman/Talia Al Ghul.

I much preferred the Catwoman angle to Talia. First I don't know much about her and with Liam Neeson's character not around, who cares?

Also who remembers the Halle Berry film? From what I can recall no one saw it. I sure didn't.

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I'd like to note, for those that don't know, that there's a lot more to Bane than was portrayed in Batman & Robin.  Check out his Wikipedia article if you're interested.

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Wait. Holy crap. I knew the name sounded familiar, but it took Confused Matthew to remind me that Tom Hardy was Shinzon in Star Trek Nemesis?! He... certainly looks different in that picture you posted, see you auntie, because I could never picture beanpole Shinzon as Bane!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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He's come a long way, baby.

Do check out Inception, Hardy was great in that  - at least to my reckoning.

And ChainsawAsh, 

wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Bane is NOTHING like he was portrayed in Batman and Robin?

Let's see the Nolan's take on the character.

the title is rubbish but the rest seems interesting.

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Johnny,

Yeah, that's much more accurate.  The real Bane is incredibly intelligent as well as being muscular.  He was raised in a prison, training himself physically as well as mentally through his childhood and teenage years, until he was selected to be a test subject for a mysterious drug that had killed all the prior recipients.  The drug exponentially increased his strength, but he has to take it every 12 hours to avoid side effects.

His obsession with Batman began with him hearing tales of the Bat in prison.  He was fascinated with the fact that Batman rules Gotham City through fear, much like a warden runs a prison through fear.  He basically decides, "Hey, I can do that," so he escapes from prison, goes to Gotham, and tries to take out Batman.

In the "Knightfall" arc, he lets all the Arkham inmates loose to wear Batman down.  After Batman finally rounds up everyone else, Bane - having discovered that Bruce Wayne is Batman - is waiting for him when he returns to Wayne Manor.  The two fight in the Batcave, ending in Bane breaking Batman's back.

The rest of the story gets a little weird, with someone else taking over for Batman while Bane takes control of the city.  The faux-Batman gets increasingly violent, until he and Bane finally meet, and faux-Batman cuts off Bane's constant drug supply, leaving him in intense withdrawal as he's taken into custody.  I don't remember how Batman recovers, or what happens with the fake Batman.

Anyway, both Begins and TDK were clearly inspired by Batman comic arcs without being direct adaptations, so I'm intrigued to see what twist Nolan puts on the "Knightfall" story (since, really, what other good material can he draw on for Bane?).

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ChainsawAsh said:

In the "Knightfall" arc, he lets all the Arkham inmates loose to wear Batman down.  After Batman finally rounds up everyone else, Bane - having discovered that Bruce Wayne is Batman - is waiting for him when he returns to Wayne Manor.  The two fight in the Batcave, ending in Bane breaking Batman's back. 

In the Batcave? I haven't read most of Knightfall, but I do have the issue right after Bane breaks Batman's back, and I could have sworn it was in public. There were reporters there, and Alfred pretended to be a paramedic and rushed Batman back to the cave rather than a hospital. I remember this because there was a very memorable moment where Tim questions Alfred's decision, saying it's more important to make sure Bruce gets proper treatment, to which Alfred responds that, to Bruce, making sure that his identity of Batman is not revealed is ALL that matters, and that he'd rather die than be found out.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Still not 100% on the title, but I trust that Nolan knows whats best. I'll still call it "Batman Begins 3: The Dark Knight 2: The Dark Knight Rises"

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Going by the ending of The Dark Knight it would make sense to have villains who's actions could be misinterpreted as being the Bat gone batty.

Catwoman, Azrael and Bane spring to mind I'd include Man-Bat but the science-fictiony monster type villains don't seem to fit with the style of Nolan's series.

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Gaffer Tape said:

ChainsawAsh said:

In the "Knightfall" arc, he lets all the Arkham inmates loose to wear Batman down.  After Batman finally rounds up everyone else, Bane - having discovered that Bruce Wayne is Batman - is waiting for him when he returns to Wayne Manor.  The two fight in the Batcave, ending in Bane breaking Batman's back. 

In the Batcave? I haven't read most of Knightfall, but I do have the issue right after Bane breaks Batman's back, and I could have sworn it was in public. There were reporters there, and Alfred pretended to be a paramedic and rushed Batman back to the cave rather than a hospital. I remember this because there was a very memorable moment where Tim questions Alfred's decision, saying it's more important to make sure Bruce gets proper treatment, to which Alfred responds that, to Bruce, making sure that his identity of Batman is not revealed is ALL that matters, and that he'd rather die than be found out.

if I remember correctly, the fight is in the wayne manor.    Batman comes out of the batcave, into the manor and Bane is waiting for him.   They fight, Bane beats him and breaks his back and then takes him into public and dumps him onto the street.   

 

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see you auntie said:

Re: Tom Hardy

This is Tom Hardy.

 It IS?!?!? Wow.

The dude's got charisma for days, and that pic now convinces me he'll make a great Bane.

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Warbler said:

if I remember correctly, the fight is in the wayne manor.    Batman comes out of the batman, into the manor and Bane is waiting for him.   They fight, Bane beats him and breaks his back and then takes him into public and dumps him onto the street.   

 

 I recall it that way to. Must have been an awkward car ride from the cave.

BATMAN: So... where we goin?

BANE: A crowded street.

BATMAN: Why? Are we gonna get a pretzel?

BANE: No. I'm going to break you.

BATMAN: Pretzel afterwards?

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Warbler said:

if I remember correctly, the fight is in the wayne manor.    Batman comes out of the batcave, into the manor and Bane is waiting for him.   They fight, Bane beats him and breaks his back and then takes him into public and dumps him onto the street.   

 

fixed?

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Sluggo said:

Warbler said:

if I remember correctly, the fight is in the wayne manor.    Batman comes out of the batcave, into the manor and Bane is waiting for him.   They fight, Bane beats him and breaks his back and then takes him into public and dumps him onto the street.   

 

fixed?

yes, fixed. 

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I recall it that way to. Must have been an awkward car ride from the cave.

BATMAN: So... where we goin?

BANE: A crowded street.

BATMAN: Why? Are we gonna get a pretzel?

BANE: No. I'm going to break you.

BATMAN: Pretzel afterwards?
I LOLed. A lot.

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Ah, okay, I see.  As I said, the issue I have starts with broken Batman being tossed into the street.  Therefore, I assumed the fight took place there too.  But it seems as if The Boost's account of pretzels and things must really have happened.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Gaffer Tape said:

Ah, okay, I see.  As I said, the issue I have starts with broken Batman being tossed into the street. 

the fight takes place in the previous issue.

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I don't remember where I saw it, but someone pointed out that Elmo is the perfect height....

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I stopped following the comics continuity after the batman death thing.  Now they bring him back, while the original robin is the new batman and batmans son damien is the new robin, and the robin supposedly killed by the joker is the red hood.

DC comics continuity is impossible to follow, and i thought marvel continuity changing what was X-men continuity, or wolverine continuity and what as not was confusing.

Its like star wars, something can be canon one minute and then not the next.

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Bane figures out Bruce is Batman in abt. 5 minutes (something which no else is ever able to do) and then breaks into Wayne Manor, goes down into the Batcave, beats Batman unconcious, takes him to downtown Gotham and up onto a building where he then "breaks" Batman.

I love the Knightfall novel, but things do get a bit weird.

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