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Dark_Jedi & ABC's - ESB: IMPERIAL EDITION - ART OF SCORING, Restored Recordings against the B&W GOUT - JW & LSO (Released) — Page 5

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I guess I hadn't left my feedback in here.  Now I feel like an ass.

Initially, all I was expecting to come of this project was an isolated score made with ABC's brilliant-sounding audio restoration.  And even if that's all this project was, I'd be 100% satisfied.

But the addition of the black-and-white video to the simply stunning audio restoration brought this to a whole different level.  It just gives the whole film a different - and, in my opinion, very exciting - feel.

When you watch/listen to an isolated score with a film in color, you still tend to add in the sounds of the film in your head.  And honestly, it sort of defeats the purpose of an isolated score, since you end up hearing more than just the music.

But putting the isolated score to black-and-white video really helps you to separate the music from your memories of the rest of the soundtrack.  And when this happens, your mind is free to let yourself be carried through the film by the music.

And when the music sounds as clear as it does here, this is truly something that must be experienced.

Ten stars out of five for this one, guys.  It's just amazing.  And it breaks my heart a little that you won't be doing this for the other two films.

(Note that if you do decide to do this for the other two, I'm gonna go ahead and throw my two cents in right now and say that there should be no subtitles for Greedo or Jabba in either film.  Just saying.)

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ChainsawAsh said:

Ten stars out of five for this one, guys.  It's just amazing.  And it breaks my heart a little that you won't be doing this for the other two films.

Thanks a lot for your words.

Ok, a further word on what is about doing the others:

You already know how I feel about that, so I'd add that the restoration of the Empire score was a long process and came through a long dedication to get it perfect as possible. The assembly for this one DVD was then a piece of cake and is as I said before: the cherry on the cake.

In the end I chose to bring one - and not the least - to a level of "excellence" rather to just improve the 3 scores. If you think of all the little things assembled together that make things happen in life, you'll have the right idea of the solid architecture that sustained this one restoration. ;)

... You can understand then I won't decide to make the other ones just to paste these on the films, matter of alchemy.

 

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Fair enough.  What would you think if I used your older Star Wars and Jedi score remasters to make companion pieces for this?

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... I would think that they sound too high, (loud?) and noisy !

 

Lol ! Yes, I think they're both too clear, and even if it brings one more processing session to these files I would suggest you look for calming down this, as this "clarity" also brings much noise. That said, there was not that much work on the Star Wars one which had been made in two days.

But whatever you can do about that, you're welcome to do these ;)

 

PS: Btw, you probably spotted it missed the SE end of the Rancor sequence on these remasters.

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^^ Was it just an idea or are you going to do these ? I really don't have an idea of the editing work it requires.

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I have finally seen & heard this little unique project of yours, and I must say I was a little surprised of how much I enjoyed it. I'm no fan of isolated scores in general, but this wasn't exactly like that anyway. To have the footage in black and white gave me old WWII documentary vibes from time to time as the films themselves flirts with it from time to time.

I've always thought that the Empire score works in two distinctive ways, (as so many great scores does of course) but this works perfectly in the finished film imo. (and I would not like the edited music back if I could choose as I think Empire has almost wall to wall scoring as it is already) and it also works perfectly as an alternative standalone listening experience outside the film as there is so much music that was edited out etc, but I've now actually found a third way to enjoy it. :)

Well done, ABC/dark_jedi!!

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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I'm considering it.  I haven't decided.  If I do, it'll be after this semester is over, as this is going to be my most intense semester of all (done intentionally so my last semester will be a relative cakewalk in comparison).

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Assure you that all the edited segment are available on the releases if you go for it. One cut a bit too short (beware of my splitted tracks on "Jedi"), and I don't know what will happen then.

One extended bit of about 3 or 4 sec from the Radio Drama really saved my neck for the Carbon Freeze cue (it was not available on the releases). As for "The Duel", I announced it as "out of sync" for the 2nd half of the cue due to one cut too short on the RSO version (the SE has the good cut). Fortunately I think it finally turned even better when I saw it on the picture!... Otherwise and thank God, all is there! I realized how lucky it really was when it was finished.

 

PS: Thanks Msycamore. Great to read you enjoyed it that much. I told you I was not interested in an isolated score, and it is sure not meant to be. ;)

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Does anyone have a download link for this available or can anyone send me an invite to myspleen to get it? I'm not a member there and it doesn't appear that they have open registration. From what I understand that's the only place to get it right?

I just checked out the samples and really dig the work. I like the option for isolated soundtracks on DVD's. I like listening to soundtracks and letting my imagination take over, but sometimes I like official visuals to go with it.

If anyone can help me get a hold of this, I would appreciate it - Thanks!

 

**Scratch That - just found it on tehparadox - forgot to check there!**

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Just thought this one deserved a bump... Nobody else watched this baby ? Mmmhhh well...

 

PS to CA:

... What would you think if I used your older Star Wars and Jedi score remasters to make companion pieces for this?

... I'd say you'd better use the Anthology stuff first. Imho.

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I'm new to the forums, and I just found this on tehparadox.com. It is phenomenal. Thanks to all involved with this release!

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I am going to throw my two cents in also on this amazing project. Firstly, I am shocked that not many people have taken more of an interest in this fantastic project. It has been said plenty that the work here is beyond your everyday restoration, I second that assertion. Having recently downloaded, burned and listened to all of ABC's and 7FN's restorations, I didn't expect anything to ever top the quality of work they put in to preserving and improving the soundtracks. That was until I saw the B&W film with the iso score on top.

One thing to take comfort in ABC and DJ, genius rarely gets credited very often. I have received very little feedback on my current project as well. It is a labor of love, I'm not just doing for the fans, I'm doing it to preserve something great that should not be lost to the cruel hands of time. I don't care if anyone likes or approves what I am doing, I'm doing it to give something back to GL and to all SW fans out there.

Your work has really touched me and I for one think it all stands up on its own without having to justify it.

GOOD WORK MEN! The force is strong with you.....

Cheers,

Adam

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A reply from DJ to TK421138:

Hi and Thank you for the great post, ABC and I have read your comments and we both wish you the best, it is really cool that some of these old projects we did together are still being enjoyed, ABC and I really had a lot of fun working together on this one and it really turned out great! he is currently working with us, Team Blu on yet another project and he has done some tremendous work on it, and a new 2 disc CD Set will be included with this project, however this project is not Star Wars related lol.

Thanks again for the post and enjoy Empire Strikes Back "Imperial Edition"

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DJ,

Colour me interested in whatever projects are forthcoming from you two. Star Wars related or not your quality is unmatched. Keep me informed please.