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Daredevil: The Man Without Fear - The Fan Edit (Released)

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I just now heard about this edit and I would dig on checking out this flick - I’ll over up any 5 (DVD5) discs off my list for a copy!!

Word to the Spookies…

RiK

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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I just got this last week...It's very cool.. email me RIK

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Originally posted by: Mitch
I just got this last week...It's very cool.. email me RIK


SCORE!!!!

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Any details on this version? I was just thinking about ways the movie could be edited.
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Anyone here actually like this film? I find I'm one of the few people I know who actually liked it. Thought it was one of the more realistic superhero films and done very well. Main reason I probably liked it though was b/c of Jennifer Garner. I hated Elektra though, thought that was aweful. Another reason was b/c I'm a Collin Ferrell fan, loved him as Bullseye. Would be interested in seeing an edit, though didn't really think it needed to be edited much.
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I like the movie. I own even own both versions. I personally liked Elektra and felt the love story was the strongest aspect of the film. But I'd like to see an edit that kinda merges the the good and the bad of the Theatrical and Director's cuts.
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I DUG the film (except the Kingpin)

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What's the chance of someone seeding this on My Spleen?
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Is this the same edit as the one available online in .mov files? If so, it's pretty decent.
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Definetly interesting. But I think it would be pretty hard to make a good movie out of this one. If Ben Affleck was replaced by a LEGO animated Daredevil though this could be incredible ;-)

Nothing about fanediting is easy.

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I liked this movie as it was. Picked up the Director's Cut but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. There were certainly some flaws, but overall I thought it was well done. As for the Kingpin, I can deal with the changes to him far more easily than I can deal with some other changes Marvel has allowed over the years.

That having been said, I'm very curious to see what a fan edit would involve. Any details?
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Thanks boon! I'm not sure I like all the cuts, but I'd have to see the finished project to really give it a thumbs-up or down.
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It might not be the DVD of it, but the link that boon posted above does have links to the quicktime files.

Personally, I don't really like this edit (if the quicktime files are representative of it). I guess it might work for someone who hated the movie and wanted a "Batman & Robin: De-Assified" type cutdown of the film, but it doesn't add anything to it. It simply cuts away at the plot and the emotion of the story is lost. For example, the editor cut the origin story, but the edit still ends with Daredevil dropping a rose at the place where his father died. Does that make sense if you don't know his father died there?

I started my own edit of the movie a few days before Rikter posted this thread (the first time I heard of this edit) and since I felt the theatrical cut was decent and had potential to be good, I was happy to see the director's cut added some good stuff to the film. So I took the DC and just removed some scenes that were unnecessary and trimmed stuff that didn't work for me. Of course, I actually liked the film the begin with, so I'm sure others would find a lot of stuff that's wrong with my version. I did one version that is simply the director's cut with about 13 minutes removed and another which is sort of a hybrid of the theatrical and director's cuts.
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I saw DD in the theater and wasn't really bowled over by it. It was one of those films that just felt like Hollywood scrambling to buy/produce 'comic book stuff' because 'they're hot' right then. I just didn't feel much heart in it and, having walked away from the theater, I honestly forgot most of the film.

I just happened to see Elektra on Cinemax yesterday (having had no desire to see it in the theater mainly *because* of Jennifer Garner) and I actually liked it more than I thought I would though once again we have one of those films that end up feeling like there's maybe, say, 30 or so people in the whole world. The minute she met the kid and the father I found myself screaming 'Noooo- DON'T make THEM the targets... that would be TOO cliche!'. Uh, yeah. Next. But like I said I dug it more than I thought.

But aside from just rambling here I had a couple of thoughts-

First what all was added in the 'director's cut' of DD and

Second am I the ONLY person who is sick of these stupidly named 'special edition' DVDs??? I see it like this- there's very little freakin' chance under the sun that a director these days would be 'edited' in the way that studios did it in the 70s and 80s. Even though a few instances crop up (Exorcist TB for example) I see no excuse for a 'director's cut' these days. Maybe I'm just being picky but just call it a 'special edition' or 'extended edition' for gosh sake but don't think we're so stupid to think that the director sat back two months after the DVD came out and said 'Oh if only I could have included so-and-so or if only I could have freely edited the film like I chose... oh woe is me!'

BS- its mainly studios trying to get us double dip. And for that matter what is UP with the ultra stupid special edition titles of some discs. Airplane 'Don't Call Me Shirley' edition, Ferris BDO 'Bueller... Bueller' edition, etc etc etc. I HATE that crap!
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I skipped DD in theaters and watched it for the first time on DVD at home. It wasn't what I would call great cinema, but it wasn't worthless sludge either. It was entertaining, which is all I expected. It may have seemed rushed, but didn't they have this thing in preproduction hell for a few years while Affleck fought to have it made?

As for Elektra, that movie could have been soooo much better. Elektra is set up as the ultimate bad ass at the start of the movie and then she seems kinda weak in many of her reactions later in the movie, including in her final battles. For completeness' sake, I did pick up the DVD and eventually the "DC" DVD as well, but as with DD, I haven't seen the DC yet.

Hopefully there's some changes that make it so I won't have to add these to my list of possible dissections/edits for the future (post Skywalker Legacy)......
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Originally posted by: greencapt
First what all was added in the 'director's cut' of DD and

Second am I the ONLY person who is sick of these stupidly named 'special edition' DVDs??? I see it like this- there's very little freakin' chance under the sun that a director these days would be 'edited' in the way that studios did it in the 70s and 80s. Even though a few instances crop up (Exorcist TB for example) I see no excuse for a 'director's cut' these days. Maybe I'm just being picky but just call it a 'special edition' or 'extended edition' for gosh sake but don't think we're so stupid to think that the director sat back two months after the DVD came out and said 'Oh if only I could have included so-and-so or if only I could have freely edited the film like I chose... oh woe is me!' Actually, the Daredevil Director's Cut is probably one of the truer examples of actual "Director's Cuts" these days. I think the director had DVD in mind when he shot the movie, so he shot it for an R rating knowing that the studio would cut it down to PG-13. Upon its studio release, the Fox forced them to add some scenes to make it more friendly to audiences. These included the priest confessional scenes which gave Matt someone to confide in and the sex scene with Elektra after the rooftop scene. Originally, Matt left her on the roof to go play superhero. Additionally, the studio had them cut a subplot that helped to the film be more coherent.

Here's most of the changes made for the Director's Cut, spoilers below:
* Some extended moments to Matt's origin story including his father wearing devil-like boxing robes.
* More violence in the bar sequence, as well as some unnecessary motorcycle stuff.
* During the scene where Matt goes to sleep in his deprivation tank, he somehow visualizes the murder of a prostitute. I didn't feel this was executed too well though. Also, he has a short dream of a nun (his mother) looking after him as a child. It's a reference to the comics which may be seem strange if you don't understand it.
* No priest confessional scene the morning after he kills the guy at the train station.
* More jokes from Foggy at the cafe. Pretty funny though unnecessary stuff about a seeing eye dog and a Fight Club reference.
* After we meet the Kingpin, he find out someone's been talking to the press so he beats his bodyguards to death with his caine.
* After the scene where Matt tells Foggy about Elektra, they continue walking to meet a new client. He was accused of murdering the prostitute Matt saw in his vision because he was found passed out with the murder weapon. Using his human lie detector, Matt can tell he's telling the truth and deduces that he was framed.
* A new scene of Matt and Foggy crossing the street with Foggy expressing his reservations about the client.
* A new scene of Bullseye being a badass in an airport.
* A new scene where Matt and Foggy look for clues in the dead prostitute's apartment. Matt finds an etching in the table saying "MOM 6-8"
* A new scene of Matt and Foggy representing their client at court. A police officer testifies that the client did indeed kill the prostitute. Matt is confused because his lie detector thing tells him the officer is telling the truth and so he figures something's up. We also see the reporter Ben Urich watching the trial so he's somehow interested in all of this.
* The courtroom scene is followed by the scene where Matt meets Elektra on a street at night and their moment on the rooftop. Originally, this came later in the movie. When she asks Matt to stay, in the DC, he leaves her to go save to day or whatever.
* After the "I'm not the bad guy" moment, there's a new scene (or kinda alternate one) where he tries to find solitude in a church. He meets the priest and we find out he hasn't been attending Sunday mass. Unlike the theatrical cut, the priest doesn't know he is Daredevil.
* The previous scene is followed by Matt receiving the invitation to the ball. Unlike the theatrical version where he needs to be coerced by sex with Elektra to attend, Foggy convinces him to reluctantly go.
* At the ball, there's a new scene of the Kingpin's assistant being an a-hole to Foggy.
* Some minor extensions to the moments leading up to Elektra's dad getting killed - this uses some shots of DD that were used another way in the theatrical cut.
* After Elektra's dad gets killed and Matt gets all angry with himself, another one of the confessional scenes from the theatrical cut is cut. Instead, this is followed by the scene where the Kingpin gives Bullseye orders to kill Elektra. In the theatrical cut, this was a little later in the movie. Also, instead of the censored line "I want a bloody costume," Bullseye says "I want a f***ing costume!"
* The previous scene is followed by a new scene with Foggy screwing up in the courtroom because Matt is absent. Also, their client (played by Coolio) testifies and acts like an idiot. It's largely used for comic effect and is unnecessary. This leads into Matt attending the funeral.
* After the funeral, Matt is stopped by Ben Urich who gives him some info. The killing of the prostitute is somehow related to the Kingpin and Urich was using her as a source for some articles he wrote on the Kingpin (probably the ones which led the Kingpin to kill his bodyguards in one of the new scenes). He goes on to tell Matt the cop that gave the testimony at the trial is crooked.
* There's a new scene of Matt catching up with the aforementioned cop outside a strip club and getting info out of him. Matt couldn't get a good read from him because he wears a pacemaker and he reveals that he's working for the Kingpin. This and the previous scene replace the scene from the theatrical cut where Ben Urich meets with Matt and tells him to beware of the Kingpin.
* There's a new scene of Foggy and Karen Page (the secretary) realizing what the "MOM 6-8" clue meant. Turns out Matt read it upside down and it means the prostitute met with the Kingpin's assistant (initials W.O.W.) the night of her murder (August 9th).
* The scene with Ben Urich and the Kevin Smith character is extended. Urich receives a phone call from Foggy about what he found out.
* A new scene after the Bulleye/Daredevil fight where Urich meets up with the police detective and tells him he knows how to get to the Kingpin. This is followed by another new scene where the detective meets with the Kingpin's assistant at a ritzy bar and tells him he knows he murdered the prostitute and gets him to give up the Kingpin. All of this explains why the cops came for the Kingpin after his fight with Daredevil.
* There's a new scene at the end where Matt passes by the church and the priest tells him he just missed Sunday mass. Urich meets him and tells him that he knows he is Daredevil and that it's his job to report it.
* There's a new sequence after the previous scene where we see the Kingpin behind bars and Bullseye in a body cast at the hospital (this last part was used as a during-the-credits surprise in the theatrical cut. This sequence has new narration of Matt waxing on about how evil always survives.

Ultimately, the director's cut runs 133 minutes, a full 30 minutes longer than the theatrical version. I think a good half of of the new material strenghtens the film. The other half isn't bad, just unecessary.

Originally posted by: TheDemonHunter
It may have seemed rushed, but didn't they have this thing in preproduction hell for a few years while Affleck fought to have it made?
I don't think it was Affleck who fought for it. Rather, the director had been trying to make it for years and finally convinced the studio. Say what you will about the final movie, but the director definitely had passion for the material. It probably seemed too rushed because Fox had them cut out the subplot.

I caught Elektra on DVD out of curiosity and thought it was pretty bad. At least the theatrical cut of Daredevil seemed to have potential. Elektra's potential went out the window the moment they decided on the story. They gave Elektra weird quirks like having OCD and disregarded the darker feel of Daredevil. The movie just never picked up for me. I sat there waiting for something interesting to happen, but nothing ever did.

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shifty-

thanks for the awesomely detailed reply! That helps and I might check out the special edition DD DVD now. Then again small touches like the Coolio cameo just annoy me to no end. Actually I kinda like Kevin Smith and I found *him* distracting from the film- a little too 'hey mom lookie- we're in a movie, nudge nudge, wink wink!' for me.

Maybe I didn't dislike Elektra as much because I was distracted by wrapping Christmas presents and couldn't be annoyed as I usually am.
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I don't think it was Affleck who fought for it. Rather, the director had been trying to make it for years and finally convinced the studio. Say what you will about the final movie, but the director definitely had passion for the material. It probably seemed too rushed because Fox had them cut out the subplot.

I stand corrected then. I really need to sit down and watch the DC of DD.

I caught Elektra on DVD out of curiosity and thought it was pretty bad. At least the theatrical cut of Daredevil seemed to have potential. Elektra's potential went out the window the moment they decided on the story. They gave Elektra weird quirks like having OCD and disregarded the darker feel of Daredevil. The movie just never picked up for me. I sat there waiting for something interesting to happen, but nothing ever did.


I was definitely disappointed with Elektra as well. The quirks they gave her were just completely wrong for the character, as was the story. It had elements that were true to the comics, such as Stick (although why was Stamp given the role?) and the Hand, but overall, the handling of the story was definitely not close to the potential it could have lived up to.
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Originally posted by: greencaptThen again small touches like the Coolio cameo just annoy me to no end.
Actually, it's not really a cameo. It's a full blown role. Personally, he wasn't terrible but still kinda annoying.

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Daredevil - the fan without beer edit...

Nothing about fanediting is easy.

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the directors cut makes it a cool film. one of my favourite comic adaptations.
any luck finding this edit y'all??