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DESPECIALIZED EDITION QUALITY CONTROL THREAD - REPORT ISSUES HERE

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Please report any problems you find with any of the Despecialized Editions, including workprints, in this thread.

It would be great, if you could stick to a specific format in the report posts, so that I can later do a simple search:

REPORT-(Movie name short SW,ESB,ROTJ)-v(version number - v1.0 and so on)-(for workprints add WP)
(time in the hh : mm : ss format so for example 00:32:11)
(frame number if you know it - but not necessary, unless you want to point to one specific frame)
(description of the issue - the main point in bold if possible)

Here are two examples:

REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
00:14:58
021552
There is an artifact as the subtitle disappears.

REPORT-SW-v2.5
01:11:54
There’s a noticeable wobble to the corridor extension.

There are two reasons for making this separate thread:

A) We don’t want to spoil the fun for those who may not have noticed the problems.

But mainly B) It will be easier for me to check back to this thread, because the issues won’t be buried between lots of other posts. This is why I’d like to ask everyone to stay strictly on topic - we can discuss the reported problems but not anything else!!! Thank you!!!

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    IF YOU DON’T FIND WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING FOR THERE, TRY ASKING IN THE APPROPRIATE THREADS - MOST REGULAR POSTERS KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS AND SOMEONE WILL LIKELY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU.
    IF I GET A PM WITH A QUESTION, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THROUGH THESE MEANS, IT WILL BE IGNORED. SORRY BUT I AM NOT THE LOCAL INFO BOOTH. THANK YOU.
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REPORT-ROTJ-WP-2.0
2:04:34-2:04:39
A-Wing ships flicker in and out of existence. Doesn’t seem like anyone else has noticed this, so I wanted to make sure it doesn’t get lost in the shuffle.

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Oh, wow, yeah - someone already pointed this out before but I only checked it out now and yes, that is definitely caused by the dirt-removal and I will need to fix it manually. Thanks!

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    IF YOU DON’T FIND WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING FOR THERE, TRY ASKING IN THE APPROPRIATE THREADS - MOST REGULAR POSTERS KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS AND SOMEONE WILL LIKELY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU.
    IF I GET A PM WITH A QUESTION, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THROUGH THESE MEANS, IT WILL BE IGNORED. SORRY BUT I AM NOT THE LOCAL INFO BOOTH. THANK YOU.
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REPORT-ESB-v2.0
00:37:46-00:37:49
00:38:20-00:38:21
00:38:37-00:38:38
00:38:42-00:38:46
00:40:01-00:40:02
00:40:21-00:40:24
All the shots in these timeframes have a fuzzy look to them, and probably need to be replaced with 35mm print scans. I think they’re taken from the 1993 laserdisc, although I’m not 100% sure.

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Thank you guys but could you please read the first post and edit your posts accordingly?

Those zoomed in shots in ESB are BD extended on all sides with 97SE but yeah, they do need an update.

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    IF YOU DON’T FIND WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING FOR THERE, TRY ASKING IN THE APPROPRIATE THREADS - MOST REGULAR POSTERS KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS AND SOMEONE WILL LIKELY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU.
    IF I GET A PM WITH A QUESTION, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THROUGH THESE MEANS, IT WILL BE IGNORED. SORRY BUT I AM NOT THE LOCAL INFO BOOTH. THANK YOU.
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REPORT-ROTJ-WP-2.0

00:54:00 (and maybe 00:53:51 too)
The space around the Sanctuary Moon is extremely blue (this is very prominent since 2004).

01:22:02
The blinking lights on the shield generator are red, while in GOUT, they appear to be white! Do you have a 35mm-source of that scene? Maybe the colours are just washed out.

01:29:19
The red bars are too dark.

01:33:24
The garbage matte around the Death Star II is much visible (also thanks to Lowry).

01:34:23
The Star Destroyers and the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon are extremely reddish.

01:54:30 and several scenes later
Palpatine’s face looks a bit too coloured (maybe).

Vader’s death scene seems a bit too blue to me.

02:01:25
The frontside of the X-Wing engines has a red glow which isn’t there in GOUT.

02:05:26
There’s some damage or particle above Luke’s face. I know that there are missing frames in the celebration scene but did you consider to use more material from v1.0 here, especially the force ghosts? It looked pretty good!

02:06:55
There’s a dust particle above “Lando”.

188200, 188360, 188450 and 188900
There are some more dust particles between the credits.

188945
There’s a burning mark.

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On Episode V I can see a green line on the edge of the screen

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REPORT-SW-v2.5

0:15:14 The sky around the rotoscoped dewback is a different color than the surrounding sky. Probably varies depending on TV set calibration, but on a decently (not perfectly) calibrated set, it does look like a pink halo around the dewback.

0:16:30 Same as above around the Jawas. Lighter halo of sand around them. Was less noticable on previous DeSp revisions, likely due to different color timing of the 35mm portion.

0:42:31 Speeder 35mm shot. This is the only time I’m going to bring up color in and of itself. But something is very wrong with all the yellow in this shot.

0:43:23 As they exit the speeder: The 35mm on the left looks incredibly different from the BD footage on the right. Especially the sky. Needs to be either better matched or take the entire background from 35mm source and foreground/characters from BD.

REPORT-ESB-v2.0

The only major issues are the blurry unzoomed shots previously mentioned.

1:47:24 There’s a missing piece of junk on the ground. It doesn’t matter.

[Also various credit issues that are no longer relevant]

REPORT-Jedi-v2.0WP

[Luke hologram] SE recomp

[Various Rancor shots] Too dark. Too blue.

0:29:28 35mm sail barge shot. Stationary lens dirt. May not be an easy fix. Not a big deal.

0:30:38 Tramline scratch on Sarlacc close up.

0:36:16 Final Tatooine shot. Much damage. Color. Flicker.

[Obiwan ghost] SE Recomp

1:35:54 (For example) Emperor’s slug covers seem very low res. But whether or not they appear depends on TV contrast. However, they seem like they might bleed over into his face as it moves, and I don’t know enough about these shots to know if that is accurate.

Frame 173821 - Scratch on Anakin’s face.

2:04:45, 2:04:50, 2:04:55 Much gate weave in the fireworks shots.

2:06:28 Final shot, some gate weave.

Credit glitches have been mentioned.

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REPORT-Jedi-v2.0WP

Everyone has pretty much already pointed out the other issues, but I did want to add my 2c on some of the 35mm sources.

  • The Rancor 35mm elements are too dark compared to the BR version and not quite the same color (the BR seem brownish and the 35mm shots are greenish).

  • The Sarlacc 35mm elements seem a little ‘hot’ and blown out. I don’t know if the highlights need to be decreased or what (I know crap about color correction…)

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Mavimao said:

REPORT-Jedi-v2.0WP

  • The Sarlacc 35mm elements seem a little ‘hot’ and blown out. I don’t know if the highlights need to be decreased or what (I know crap about color correction…)

I think the sand itself in the 35mm sarlacc scenes is a good color, and hopefully the surrounding BD shots (which were always all over the place) will match it. Skin tones in that sequence also need some work.

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REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
0:04:26:00
1:06:19:00
2:04:47:00
All the 35mm shots are a bit wobbly to some extent, these are examples.

REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
0:53:45:04
For about two minutes the film is a bit blurry as if it were out of focus, especially next to other footage from the film.

REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
1:48:35:00
The film grain becomes weirdly static, as if it were a pixely overlay.

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REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
00:09:59-00:31:55
Alien subtitles have not been updated to match theatrical timing and appearance

00:14:16
Missing subtitle “I have come for the bounty…”

00:24:25-00:27:58
Rancor shots seem too dark

00:27:38
Missing subtitle “Bring me Solo and the Wookiee.”

00:27:41
Missing subtitle “The will all suffer for this outrage.”

00:30:34-00:30:36
Vertical line on sarlacc shot

01:42:25
2011SE R2 freakout

02:04:45
35mm footage is awfully shaky

02:06:19
35mm footage a little shaky

02:07:03
182773
Major 35mm damage on “Lando”

02:07:16
183073
Minor 35mm damage on R of “Earl” and V of “Vader”

02:07:17
183117
Moderate 35mm damage on A of “as the Voice”

02:07:46
183796
Major 35mm damage on M of “Make-Up”

02:07:56
184045
Minor 35mm damage on first L of “Williams”

02:08:18
184572
Major 35mm damage on “Toby Philpott”

02:08:25
184740
Major 35mm damage on “Pip Miller”

02:08:33
184926
Minor 35mm damage on T of “Randy Thom”

02:08:43
185158
Moderate 35mm damage on CK of “Peter Hancock”

02:09:18
186008
Moderate 35mm damage on GN of “Armature Designer”

02:09:28
186251
Moderate 35mm damage on O of “Anne Pollard”

02:10:00
187002
Minor 35mm damage on TA of “Location Contact”

02:10:09
187239
Moderate 35mm damage on N of “Joe Johnston”

02:10:15
187372
Moderate 35mm damage on STE of “Stewart Barbee”

02:10:21
187522
Moderate 35mm damage on AN of “Tim Geideman” and E of “Duncan Myers”

02:10:23
187561
Major 35mm damage on S, of “John Ellis,”

02:10:26
187645
Moderate 35mm damage on N of “Ease Owyeung”

02:10:27
187665
Major 35mm damage on “Barbara Gallucci”

02:10:28
187677
Moderate 35mm damage on D of “Ed L. Jones” and PH of “Philip Berberio”

02:10:29
187702
Minor 35mm damage on OR of “Effects Animators”

02:10:29
187703
Minor 35mm damage on L of “Mike Lessa”

02:10:29
187713
Moderate 35mm damage on IM of “Head Effects Animators”

02:10:32
187779
Minor 35mm damage on first T of “Randy Ottenberg”

02:10:32
187787
Minor 35mm damage on last O of “Kimberly Knowlton”

02:10:34
187818
Moderate 35mm damage on RY of “Larry Tan”

02:10:37
187905
Minor 35mm damage on H of “Robert Chrisoulis”

02:10:38
187930
Minor 35mm damage on last E of “Mike Lessa”

02:10:50
188205
Moderate 35mm damage on AR of “Garrett Brown” and RU of “Bruce Hill Productions”

02:11:00
188449
Major 35mm damage on “Harrell Parker Jr.”

02:11:14
188800
Moderate 35mm damage on “Sandra Gross”

02:11:17
188855
Minor 35mm damage on last M of “Aerial Camera Systems”

02:11:19
188919
Moderate 35mm damage on PA of “Spacial Visual Effects”

02:11:21
188944-188947
Major 35mm damage (cue mark)

02:11:27
189099
Moderate 35mm damage on 991 of “No 26991”

02:11:28
189135
Minor 35mm damage on top right of MPAA logo

02:11:31
189202
Moderate 35mm damage on RE of “Motion Picture Association of America”

02:11:34
189266
Minor 35mm damage between IZ of “Unauthorized”

02:11:35
189282
Minor 35mm damage on C of “Protected” and B of “Distribution”

02:11:38
189374
Minor 35mm damage above I in “is”

02:11:39
189379
Moderate 35mm damage on upper-right

02:11:39
189380
Moderate 35mm damage on upper-right

02:11:39
189392
Moderate 35mm damage on LIC of “Duplication”

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REPORT-ESB-v2.0
00:02:20
stars change brightness as image pans

00:40:15
stars change brightness(unsure?) as falcon makes loop

02:00:26
credits are a reconstruction, contain numerous typos

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REPORT-ESB-v2.0
00:00:28
00688
NTSC GOUT-sync: STAR WARS title card should appear in frame 00688, if we call the first frame 00000.
ESB-v2.0 has extra frame near the start, which meant card appeared one frame later than it should.
Previous discussion began there, and ending on the next page.

CatBus said:

01:44:24
150204,150205
PAL/NTSC sync issue: contains 2 extra frames not in NTSC GOUT

Those two ‘PAL-only’ frames have already been trimmed in ESB-v2.0.
Do the same thing for v2.5, so that 150204 will be the first frame of the next reel

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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CatBus - or ANYONE on this thread - How does one implement the subtitle file patch for the missing Boushh and Jabba subtitles into the final (rar combined) mkv file of ROTJWP 2.0? Do I just drag and drop them into Project Threepio’s SRT and SUP folders, respectively? If so, it’s not working for me. What am I doing wrong?

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rotan21 said:

CatBus - or ANYONE on this thread - How does one implement the subtitle file patch for the missing Boushh and Jabba subtitles into the final (rar combined) mkv file of ROTJWP 2.0? Do I just drag and drop them into Project Threepio’s SRT and SUP folders, respectively? If so, it’s not working for me. What am I doing wrong?

“This is why I’d like to ask everyone to stay strictly on topic - we can discuss the reported problems but not anything else!!! Thank you!!!”

It has been discussed in the RoTJ thread and there are various answers depending on how you want to play it.

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REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
00:51:19

This is a subtle one, but this shot just jumped out as fake looking to me. Part of that will be because of the higher clarity, but I think the way this shot is much brighter and higher contrast than the laserdisc makes this matte painting stick out like a sore thumb.

Here’s how it looked on laserdisc: http://i.imgur.com/TTbhsQe.jpg

I think the lack of shadow on the ship now is the main thing I’m noticing, especially in that darker bit in the middle which isn’t dark anymore. Anyways, thanks for the great work on all this!

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REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
01:47:57
155465
The extra lightsaber glow above Luke’s head is missing

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REPORT-SW-v2.5
01:40:08
144053
NTSC GOUT-sync: SW-v2.5 contains an extra frame at the end of reel, which is missing from NTSC GOUT.
After deleting it, then 144053 will be the first frame of the next reel.

Harmy said:

Please, use time, instead of frame number - much easier to find.

Seriously?
You need a tool like that in your kit
Jump to frame
like a starship mechanic needs a hydro-spanner

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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REPORT-ROTJ-v2.0-WP
00:14:26
020796
Jabba has two arms as the subtitle “At last we have the mighty Chewbacca” appears, and this continues for a while.

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REPORT-RoTJ-v2.0-WP

0:33:36

Some stabilization of 35mm needed. Also, glue frame present at the end.

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Report -ESB V2.0
20:14
An extra panel is lit up on the aisle leading to Vader.

1:37:29
The sky behind Luke spontaneously shifts to a darker color

1:47:24
The particles on the floor need to be restored

And of course, the GOUT footage and the 97 zooming shots could be updated, but those three were the only things I noticed, only two of which are alterations from the Special Edition.

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