spoRv presents the **DD DTS THX [BD project]
****The ultimate Dolby, DTS, THX trailers collection - all in just one Blu-Ray disc!
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Project mission: put all Dolby, DTS, THX trailers into one Blu-Ray disc!
Video sources: unaltered trailers taken from DVD and BD; only other sources could be upscaled.
Audio sources: unaltered trailers taken from DVD and BD; only other sources could be converted.
Further info: gathering all the Dolby, DTS, THX (and other) trailers on DVD and BD, and from different sources too; put them all in just one Blu-Ray disc; the digital sources will be left unaltered, the only allowed operation on DVD trailers will be demux .vob files and remux them into .m2ts files to let them BD compliant; different sources could be used, as digital captures of analog laserdisc, youtube videos, film print scans, but they must NOT be present in the same version on DVD or BD; then video could be upscaled and the audio could be converted, to be BD compliant; I’ll try to make a BD menu this time, but I could not promise it… (^^,)
Video info: DVD uses .vob files, MPEG2 encoded; NTSC DVDs are 704/720x480, 23.976 or 29.97fps; PAL DVDs are 704/720x576, 25fps; both could be 4:3 or 16:9; BD uses .m2ts files, AVC, MPEG2 or VC-1 encoded; BDs usually are 1280x720 or 1920x1080, 23.976 or 29.97 fps, 16:9, but could vary; other sources use different resolutions and compressions.
Audio info: DVD uses Dolby Digital and DTS; BD used Dolby Digital and DTS, often uncompressed (DD TrueHD and DTS-MA); other sources use different type of audio.
Trailers ready to be used:
Trailers CAPTURED:
**Trailers to CAPTURE:
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Trailers that are waiting to be added:
**Project Status: almost all existing DD, DTS and THX trailers were found; few laserdisc ones should be captured; few are waiting to be added to the collection.
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If anyone knows some trailer that is not listed here, please let me know!
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
If anyone knows some trailer that is not listed here, please let me know!
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Moth3r said:
DTS Piano:
Thank you Moth3r, but I have it; it's "proper" name is "Sonic Landscape"... when (if) I will have time, I'd like to start a subdomain, with a small picture (or more than one) for each trailer, so one could know which one is which!
I just updated the trailer list; hope to find all the missing ones in some days!
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Aren't some of the missing trailers on the THX WOW! DVD found at myspleen?
"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower
I have a collection of these trailers that I started way back in 1999, but it looks as though I have nothing else to offer except these two things ...
- AC3 (not DD) 7.1 channel test (NTSC 6ch, Japanese with CGI robot-speakers flying in space)
- Star Wars tunnel-run in CGI (probably not official from LucasFilm)
Rick2525 said:
- AC3 (not DD) 7.1 channel test (NTSC 6ch, Japanese with CGI robot-speakers flying in space)
- Star Wars tunnel-run in CGI (probably not official from LucasFilm)
They seems REALLY interesting... could you please send me the link for both?
I added them to the first post, as "trailers to be added"... meanwhile, I discovered that the 20 missing trailers were only duplicates, so now I miss only your two ones, plus the laserdisc ones that I should capture as soon as I will have time - next week, sorry...
I must find the laserdiscs that have those trailers; any help will be really appreciated - just post the most famous action blockbuster around, and probably they are in my collection... the only problem will be to locate them! (^^,)
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http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/high-definition-trailers.php
aka nostromo777 on myspleen
Echo3, thanks, I used this site myself to acquire lot of the missing trailers of my collection; it's the most complete collection of trailers on the net!
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No SDDS or CDS love?
They are there! Along with a CHACE digital surround and DataSat trailer...
UPDATE: during my continuing research of trailers, I also download A LOT of duplicated titles, just in the hope of finding a better version (audio and/or video, or different video standard as most of them are only PAL or NTSC)...
I found a bunch of trailers with the same titles, but different size... "well, maybe the video quality is better" - I thought at the beginning, then I begun to download them... after many hours, my brain awake and told me: "stupid! these are VOB files from DVDs, and the size SHOULD be always the same... because the DD/DTS/THX trailer size are fixed..."
Me: "OK, brain, you should be allright, but now I finished to download them... let's give them a try before delete them, what do you think?"
Brain: "I concede you the honor to do it, but you know that, if the size is higher, and the video standard is the same, something is going wrong... maybe the one who has posted them has tried to 'fix' them as you do with your stupid laserdiscs... OK, waste your time, as usual, I'm going to sleep!"
So, I played one trailer, and the time is the same, the format is the same, the audio is the same... and the quality *seems* the same...
Me: "OK, let's try another one... it's the same..." and again, and again...
Brain: "Finished wasting your time? OK, now can you please check the files video and audio specs with Mediainfo?!?"
I followed brain's directions (as usual) and I discovered that the video bitrate/size/format etc. are the same, as the audio... "but, wait... all of them have also another soundtrack... what?!?... DTS!!!"
So, now I have to re-edit the first post with more than FORTY trailers that have both AC3 and DTS soundtracks!!!
Are you (forum users) happy as I am now!?! (^^,)
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This is going to be one helluva collection for folks ....... I'd bet the hardest part will be the menu's, LOL.
Nicely done Andrea with the research on this. Take your time, do it right, and we'll have a great archival project for home viewing.
Cheers!!!!
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
They are there! Along with a CHACE digital surround and DataSat trailer...
UPDATE: during my continuing research of trailers, I also download A LOT of duplicated titles, just in the hope of finding a better version (audio and/or video, or different video standard as most of them are only PAL or NTSC)...
I found a bunch of trailers with the same titles, but different size... "well, maybe the video quality is better" - I thought at the beginning, then I begun to download them... after many hours, my brain awake and told me: "stupid! these are VOB files from DVDs, and the size SHOULD be always the same... because the DD/DTS/THX trailer size are fixed..."
Me: "OK, brain, you should be allright, but now I finished to download them... let's give them a try before delete them, what do you think?"
Brain: "I concede you the honor to do it, but you know that, if the size is higher, and the video standard is the same, something is going wrong... maybe the one who has posted them has tried to 'fix' them as you do with your stupid laserdiscs... OK, waste your time, as usual, I'm going to sleep!"
So, I played one trailer, and the time is the same, the format is the same, the audio is the same... and the quality *seems* the same...
Me: "OK, let's try another one... it's the same..." and again, and again...
Brain: "Finished wasting your time? OK, now can you please check the files video and audio specs with Mediainfo?!?"
I followed brain's directions (as usual) and I discovered that the video bitrate/size/format etc. are the same, as the audio... "but, wait... all of them have also another soundtrack... what?!?... DTS!!!"
So, now I have to re-edit the first post with more than FORTY trailers that have both AC3 and DTS soundtracks!!!
Are you (forum users) happy as I am now!?! (^^,)
bawls there go my ctrl-F skills
Here you are some comparison images:
Top: DVD "a"; middle: laserdisc; bottom: DVD "b"
DVD "a" is NTSC interlaced 4:3; DVD "b" is NTSC progressive 16:9; laserdisc is the one I've cleaned up a bit to display better, but with no color correction.
The two DVD versions are effectively different, as DVD "a" miss the "this theater features" phrase on top of the "digital - dts - sound" at the end, present on both DVD "b" and laserdisc.
As you can see, DVD "a" has different shadows onto the "digital" letters; the color of "digital" is purple, similar between DVD "a" and laserdisc, while DVD "b" is blue... in second image, laserdisc "dts" is purplish, while the DVD are grey - I strongly suspect this is due to the fact that LD is a composite format, and color resolution is quite low...
Should I include the laserdisc version too? I am inclined to do so, because it could be considered the 4:3 version of DVD "b"!
Maybe I'll discover some other laserdisc trailers will be different "versions" of the same ones on DVD!
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I was not satisfied with the THX Cimarron Laserdisc trailer, so I've done an attempt to clean up one of my captures, and here you are the results:
Top: the trailer found on the net; bottom: mine.
Dolby Canyon's logo at the end is more orange on DVD, while golden on laserdisc...
Top: DVD; bottom: laserdisc.
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Okay, weird thought here .... is it the Definitive Collection on LD of the SW Trilogy that has the "special" Star Wars version of the THX spot? That would be cool to add. It is only available on LD as far as I know.
Great project and kudos on getting the CDS trailer(s)!
You've only listed one SDDS trailer. I assume this is the triangle one? There are three others - searching for SDDS on youtube will get you results. Though if you want better quality I strongly suspect you're looking at telecine unless they exist in a digital format... For lack of a better description they're underwater, jungle and volcano. They exist as full-length individual trailers and as an edited combination of all three (the combination trailer is called Quest).
@Jetrell @Rick2525:
do you refer to this one? Even if it's an unofficial THX trailer, I like it and I want to add it to the project... infact, I've done a HD restoration - you could download it here (65MB); it's not perfect, but considering the source is not that bad... I'd like to replace the 2.0 soundtrack with the 5.1 remastered, that should be available onto the .vob file (inside the Dr. Gonzo restoration project); if someone could provide that file, I'll be really grateful!
@trp:
yes, the one I have is the triangle version. Thanks for the info about the other SDDS trailers; I searched a "bearable" versions of them for all night, but without results... telecined versions would be good enough for this project; do you have them?
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
@Jetrell @Rick2525:
do you refer to this one? Even if it's an unofficial THX trailer, I like it and I want to add it to the project... infact, I've done a HD restoration - you could download it here (65MB); it's not perfect, but considering the source is not that bad... I'd like to replace the 2.0 soundtrack with the 5.1 remastered, that should be available onto the .vob file (inside the Dr. Gonzo restoration project); if someone could provide that file, I'll be really grateful!
Yep, that's it. I know I have the Dr. Gonzo discs but I'll have to dig them out.
;)
Jetrell Fo said:
Yep, that's it. I know I have the Dr. Gonzo discs but I'll have to dig them out.
Please take a look... check if audio is 5.1, if so send me the .vob file, so I could mux my video with that audio. THANKS!
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I happened to have my Dr. G discs close to hand so I checked them out - sadly the sound is regular 2.0 surround (which makes sense considering the definitive edition didn't include an AC-3 track).
Here's the VOB in case its lower-generation picture proves useful (it's NTSC frame rate):
https://www.box.com/s/26jdeo6zpawweha9z1uc
Jonno, thanks for the file; I don't think this could be useful for upscaling, as, AFAIK, the original file was encoded in mp4 or Sorenson3, so upscale a 2nd generation lossy video is not a good idea... I think I'll stick with my version - yet not perfect, but watchable.
About 5.1: I'm sure someone has recreated the audio from the 2.0 soundtrack, and I've contacted a person that maybe could have that 5.1 audio... I'll post here if I'll receive it.
UPDATES:
here you are the latest trailers found or converted:
soon I'll update first post adding the following and dividing trailers in categories.
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
Jetrell Fo said:
Yep, that's it. I know I have the Dr. Gonzo discs but I'll have to dig them out.
Please take a look... check if audio is 5.1, if so send me the .vob file, so I could mux my video with that audio. THANKS!
I just saw the post and checked my discs .... DD 192kbps .... and I see that Jonno got it covered, thanks man.
Sad for sure but it's still a cool trailer to watch.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
@trp:
yes, the one I have is the triangle version. Thanks for the info about the other SDDS trailers; I searched a "bearable" versions of them for all night, but without results... telecined versions would be good enough for this project; do you have them?
No I don't - sorry.
Here's something a little older: the 1990 'Mancini' Dolby SR trailer as seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IHWa4eAENM
I've upscaled that 720p video and restored its 23.976fps rate (the web version has a strange 1/6 repeated frame cadence), and replaced the soundtrack with CD PCM. Here's the M2TS:
(edit: link removed since someone decided it was clever to upload my work to youtube without asking)
I have more Dolby Stereo and SR trailers to upload, but since they're currently 480p (I captured and reworked them from a VHS source) I'll see if there's any value in upscaling them.
I had a project that I bought off of someone YEARS ago. If you'd like, I could check and see if you're missing any of the ones from there. It's an awesome compilation.