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Don’t call him “dude.” A Baltimore City police officer is suspended with pay after a video surfaced Saturday on the Web site YouTube.com, depicting him yelling at, pushing and bullying a skateboarder after the teen allegedly disrespected him.

“The entire video raises some issues of appropriate interaction with a citizen,” said Sterling Clifford, city police spokesman.

Anne Arundel County resident Peggy Miller said she couldn’t believe the way the officer treated her son, Eric Bush, 14, a freshman at Northeast High School.

“To be honest, if that officer did that to me, I would have punched him,” said Miller, who first spoke to The Examiner’s television partner WJZ. “He did that to my son because my son called him dude? It’s ridiculous.”

Officer Salvatore Rivieri, a 17-year veteran of the department, was patrolling the Inner Harbor in mid-July when he came upon some skateboarders and told them skateboarding was not allowed there.

According to the video of the incident recently posted on the Internet, Rivieri took offense after one skateboarder, Bush, called him “dude.”

“Don’t get defensive with me, son, because you’ll spend some time in juvenile,” Rivieri said.

“You give that attitude to your father. If you give it to me, I’ll smack you upside the head. ... Shut your mouth! I’m talking!”

The officer then pushed the 5-foot-7-inch, 125-pound teen to the ground and grabbed his skateboard, shouting: “Sit down! I’m not a dude!”

“Eric was scared because once the cop pushed him down, Eric hit his head on the cement,” Miller said. “All he had to do is say, ‘Guys you can’t skateboard here.’ ”

As the teen continued to mumble something below his breath, Rivieri told him, “You disrespected me, this badge and my department. When I’m talking to you, you shut your mouth, and you listen. Obviously your parents don’t put a foot in your butt quite enough, because you don’t understand the meaning of respect.”

Rivieri then told the teen he needed to learn to speak correctly.

An internal affairs investigation is pending, with investigators planning to interview Bush on Saturday.

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This is nothing new!

Thursday June 28, 2007

Arkansas Cop Attacks and Chokes Skaters
Last week, June 21st, we celebrated Go Skateboarding Day. In Hot Springs, Arkansas, a resort town, a group of friends were skateboarding through town, when an officer named Joey Williams attacked them. You can watch the whole video on YouTube - it's pretty shocking. [\i]


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“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Now that first video from Baltimore is kind of ridiculous. While I myself also scold people that call me "dude" or some other variation, I don't get that physical with them. That Officer may need some sort of Anger Management course. Now the second video out of Arkansas, that Officer did nothing wrong at all. Those idiot kids should have listened to him when he said stop, he gave a lawful command and, assisted by the gang mentality, they each refused to listen. We don't even see how the whole thing started, but those kids were highly disrespectful, rude, and they did break the law. An officer tells you to stop, do it, don't question him or his authority, that is what a court room is for.
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You can send that Police Department your comments at

questions@baltimorepolice.org


My email to them is below.

"What is wrong with your police force? Don't you train your cops? That "DUDE" Rivieri did show a truly disgusting bit of police work!

Your officer should not do that to a YOUNG KID of 14 years old! Your Officer Rivieri is acting like nothing more than a "Punk" himself! And, let the officer know that a "Dude" is not "someone who works on a ranch" as he thinks, but in fact is a term for "a city person in the country, with strong connotations of ignorance of rural ways". Your cops need some serious education. The Kid was kind of right about the officer being ignorant. Sorry, but your department looks so BAD with this type of officer out there. Glad all the world sees what type a place your city is. Think people will stay away? And if Rivieri keeps his job, I'm sure Rivieri will never get much beyond riding in that joke of a car for the rest of his cop life now that this video will be following him around FOREVER. And you should tell the guy to drop a few pounds. Being that fat is not good for him. I'm sure that kids will never have respect for people who act like that cop did. And I don't think they should. Do you truly think cops like Rivieri are doing your department and the people of your city a worthwhile service? I would say not.

Rev. Kenneth Andersen

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Why focus on the negative. Use this link and find another department to send an e-mail too.
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Even though I respect cops, these guys are why I'm scared of and don't trust cops.
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People to contact...

Mayor Sheila Dixon
City Hall, Room 250
100 N. Holliday Street
Baltimore, Maryland 21202
Phone (410) 396-3835
Fax (410) 576-9425
Baltimore PD: 410-396-2411
Maryland States Attorneys Office at 1-410-396-4001
citizens review board410-396-3141
these are the people they have to answer to!!


“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Alright FF, don't you think this is probably already being handled and that posting this mans personal stuff is but much. I think it is.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Now that first video from Baltimore is kind of ridiculous. While I myself also scold people that call me "dude" or some other variation, I don't get that physical with them. That Officer may need some sort of Anger Management course. Now the second video out of Arkansas, that Officer did nothing wrong at all. Those idiot kids should have listened to him when he said stop, he gave a lawful command and, assisted by the gang mentality, they each refused to listen. We don't even see how the whole thing started, but those kids were highly disrespectful, rude, and they did break the law. An officer tells you to stop, do it, don't question him or his authority, that is what a court room is for.


Exactly the kind of defense I'd expect out of you. What those cops did in Arkansas was was much worse. Or did you miss the part where that one cop was strangling two KIDS at the same time! What kind of a man strangles kids!?!? They were kids, not members of Al-Queda. That cop makes me sick. Did he ever ask them to surrender? That cop is nothing but a bully. As they said in the video, why are they worried about kids riding skate boards, when there are drug dealers, rapists, and murdered to arrest?

Btw, that cop in Baltimore needs more than Anger Management, he needs to be fired.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Alright FF, don't you think this is probably already being handled and that posting this mans personal stuff is but much. I think it is.


You could be right, so I made an edit, and took it out of the post.

FF

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
Originally posted by: ferris209
Alright FF, don't you think this is probably already being handled and that posting this mans personal stuff is but much. I think it is.


You could be right, so I made an edit, and took it out of the post.

FF


Thanks FF, even though I agree he went too far, his family doesn't need to pay for his mistakes, I really appreciate it.

Sweeney, you're an idiot, turn up your volume a little bit and listen to how many times that officer in Arkansas said to stop and when he yells stop watch those kids take off running, that is what we here in the rest of the world call FLEEING A POLICE OFFICER, you can't do that. You dimwit.
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Geez, more stories of messed up cops, huh? That Baltimore guy was certainly out of line and, like the wheelchair deputy, needs to be dismissed. If it had just been the verbal aggressiveness, maybe just a time out, but he really got physically rough with that kid.

As for the second video, I'm not entire sure. Having watched some of those cop chase videos on television, I have learned that cops get really pissed when people try to run away, so I don't blame him for getting touchy about that. That was just a stupid thing to do. And if they were going to run away, they should have done a better job of it (not that I condone running away). But they had skateboards, and he was on foot, and they couldn't get away? Eh, I should probably stop this train of thought. However, the latter part of the first video in that series was rather vague to me. The camera angles were such that I couldn't tell what was going on. But, for the moment, I can't get it to load again. But from that one viewing, it did seem like the camera operator got taken down a bit too harshly. But then again, I'm not entirely sure what his role was. Eh.

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Originally posted by: ferris209
Sweeney, you're an idiot, turn up your volume a little bit and listen to how many times that officer in Arkansas said to stop and when he yells stop watch those kids take off running, that is what we here in the rest of the world call FLEEING A POLICE OFFICER, you can't do that. You dimwit.


THE COP STRANGLED TWO KIDS! KIDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the fuck do you justify that?!? Where does it say in the police manual that you are supposed to strangle a fleeing KID??? And one of them was a girl . I know one thing. If I were that girl's father, nothing would stop me from kicking that cop's ass. NOTHING. Ferris, it is of no surprise that you are taking the cops side. You'd do that even if they had shot the skate boarders.

btw, that cop in the Baltimore video should be thrown in jail for stealing. He had no right to steal that kid's skate board. It is private property and belongs to the kid, not the cop. Also the cop was wrong to warn the other kid about video taping the incident. Its a free country, it was a public area, the kid can therefor film anything he wants. That cop a pig.

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Originally posted by: Sweeney599
Originally posted by: ferris209
Sweeney, you're an idiot, turn up your volume a little bit and listen to how many times that officer in Arkansas said to stop and when he yells stop watch those kids take off running, that is what we here in the rest of the world call FLEEING A POLICE OFFICER, you can't do that. You dimwit.


THE COP STRANGLED TWO KIDS! KIDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the fuck do you justify that?!? Where does it say in the police manual that you are supposed to strangle a fleeing KID??? And one of them was a girl . I know one thing. If I were that girl's father, nothing would stop me from kicking that cop's ass. NOTHING. Ferris, it is of no surprise that you are taking the cops side. You'd do that even if they had shot the skate boarders.


There you go stereotyping again. No, I would not support using deadly force unless those TEENS were an imminent threat the Officer's, or another's, life. By the way, he is not strangling the kids, he is grabbing the TEENS by their heads and attempting to gain control of them. Number one, they should have stopped when he told them to do so and number two, they should have not FOUGHT the police officer when he grabbed them. They are not kids, they are teens.

Have you ever had to fight a teenager, or a woman, or a girl? I have and I would rather fight the biggest guy on any street than I would fight any one or combination of the three, even if the woman is 5'02" and 125 lbs. I have found that women have a VERY high pain tolerance and they are VERY flexible which makes them very hard to get control of, add to that the fact that women fight very dirty, they bite, scratch, spit, and claw. Teens are very hard to control because they too are small and hard to get a grip on and they are also usually flexible as well. On top of that teens are pretty much in the prime of their life and many of them are in very good shape, due to extra curricular activities of various types whether it be football, baseball, or even non-school related stuff like skateboarding on a daily basis and usually for extended periods. Just try skateboarding for 5 hours a day everyday and see how in shape you get. Again, Sweeney, you're an idiot.
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screw you pig.
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Originally posted by: Sweeney599
screw you pig.


Wonderful rebuttal argument. Thanks for being so on the edge and being innovative, "pig", wow I've never heard that one before.
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Geez, you just gotta bring gender into it, Sweeney? That has nothing to do with it. If she was fleeing or resisting arrest, she deserved what she got. End of story. Like I said in my last post, I need to rewatch that part of the video to get a better idea of what happened, but if someone is fleeing or resisting an officer, the officer does what he has to do to keep in control of the situation, regardless of the gender of the suspect. So don't try to taint the issue with that. And just so you know where I'm coming from, I have a hard time trusting some police officers due to a few bad experiences with some who were similar to the one in the first video. But I still stand by what I said.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Ferris, I'd suggest standing down on any arguments against Sweeney. I feel rather foolish for having wasted time arguing with him over the weekend. I started off giving him the benefit of the doubt and trying to reason with him on things, but as long as you disagree with him in anyway whatsoever he is just going to insult you. The problem is that when you argue with a fool, no one can tell the difference and you become a fool by association. Anyone who stumbles into the politics thread can see my posts arguing with Sweeney, if they go take the time to read the entire conversations they could see what is really going on, but if they don't they are just going to think "Look at these to idiots fighting! This forum sucks."

I really think we are dealing with some attention starved teenager here, you're a cop, is it really worth wasting your time off duty on a forum arguing with some silly kid? If it is attention he is seeking, we are giving it to him in droves.

I suggest just skipping over his posts. I know the current subject at hand is a pretty personal one, and he is making personal attacks on you, but I don't think anyone around here is really taking what he says seriously. The fact that he is making so many personal attacks is all the more reason to just ignore his posts anyway. It is getting to the point where we can't even have a discussion without it being deluted by his constant infantile remarks.

Just some thoughts.

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Originally posted by: C3PX
Ferris, I'd suggest standing down on any arguments against Sweeney. I feel rather foolish for having wasted time arguing with him over the weekend. I started off giving him the benefit of the doubt and trying to reason with him on things, but as long as you disagree with him in anyway whatsoever he is just going to insult you. The problem is that when you argue with a fool, no one can tell the difference and you become a fool by association. Anyone who stumbles into the politics thread can see my posts arguing with Sweeney, if they go take the time to read the entire conversations they could see what is really going on, but if they don't they are just going to think "Look at these to idiots fighting! This forum sucks."

I really think we are dealing with some attention starved teenager here, you're a cop, is it really worth wasting your time off duty on a forum arguing with some silly kid? If it is attention he is seeking, we are giving it to him in droves.

I suggest just skipping over his posts. I know the current subject at hand is a pretty personal one, and he is making personal attacks on you, but I don't think anyone around here is really taking what he says seriously. The fact that he is making so many personal attacks is all the more reason to just ignore his posts anyway. It is getting to the point where we can't even have a discussion without it being deluted by his constant infantile remarks.

Just some thoughts.


Very good thoughts, but I'm keeping my new sig!!
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Sure. But the more of his posts I read, the more guilty I feel for possibly picking on a pretty young kid. He has never admited his age, though he did say he began a career in programing that didn't work out and now works in an office. Not too many kids or young teenagers work in offices, so I assumed he is older. Not to mentioned he has accused many of us of not knowing anything about the real world. But I am really starting to think he is pretty young and might have been lying about the career in programming thing. And if he is telling the truth about the office job, that doesn't mean he isn't really young, for all we know he could a fourteen year old being paid for taking out the trash and vacuming the floors. So yeah, thinking about this possibility I am starting to feel kind of bad. With the internet you never know who you are really talking to you. Another reason just to let his posts slide by.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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I'm no young kid looking for attention, and I don't want your pity. Lets just leave each alone.
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I don't want to give you my pity. If I were to pity you I would be looking down on you, and I don't want to do that.

Look, why don't we accept the fact that we each have different political views, and not let it run out onto the rest of the board? I really don't enjoy picking on you, nor do I appreciate being insulted all the time, or pigeon holed into a category you assume I fit in even though I do not.

I have had debates and arguments with Tiptup, lordjedi, ADM, Zombie, and plenty of others, yet I have a ton of respect for each of them and we all still get along fine. Just because we don't agree on something politically doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to get along else where. I respect your political views, you are free to think what you like, I have no wish to change you. I made a futile attempt to explain to you that I wasn't what you think I am, I repent of that. You are free to think I am whatever you want, I suppose I couldn't care less if you are bent on considering me a complete fascist just because I am not a Democrat. So, let's let it go shall we?

I am not going to pick on you anymore. But if you continue to call me a moron everytime I say something you don't agree with 100%, then you may very well end up iritating me which may sway me from my current feelings on the matter. There are nice ways to disagree with somebody. So, you have my respect pal, do with it what you will.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape