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Maybe it's Boba Ffet when he was 23, while he was still one of the elite imperial stormtroopers. Then he escaped just before the Death Star blew up and because he would be considered dead by the Empire, he could take on a new identity and slightly change the spelling of his name and become a bounty hunter. ;-)

Now, I don't think this qualifies as a change (at least not because of the "star"), since the "star" only appears in the first frame of the shot and it's probably just a speck of dirt on the negative, so it's just basic cleanup.

"Large star, middle left lower third, got removed. (2004 Change)"

 

And 005, would you mind if I put a comment "V2.0 DESPECIALIZED" to all the changes I reverted for v2.0?

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Harmy said:

Maybe it's Boba Ffet when he was 23, while he was still one of the elite imperial stormtroopers. Then he escaped just before the Death Star blew up and because he would be considered dead by the Empire, he could take on a new identity and slightly change the spelling of his name and become a bounty hunter. ;-)

Now, I don't think this qualifies as a change (at least not because of the "star"), since the "star" only appears in the first frame of the shot and it's probably just a speck of dirt on the negative, so it's just basic cleanup.

 

 

 

All I see is a wight and gray do not enter sign

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It was one of none's additions, I hadn't checked it out myself. I trust Harmy is right in this case!

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Shot is either shifted a few frames, or at the beginning it is zoomed in originally. (1997 Change)

I overlayed the two when undoing the change and I can state with absolute confidence, that it is definitely shifted by a few frames and no zooming took place in either version.

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Harmy said:

I finished marking the despecialized shots. It comes to about 280 shots.

Just make sure you don't miss any easily corrected ones as not all of the documented changes have been added to 005's list yet.

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Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Well, I'd like to know which they are (I did fix some that aren't in 005's list but most of those don't really quite qualify as changes by the standards of the list).

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Harmy said:

Well, I'd like to know which they are (I did fix some that aren't in 005's list but most of those don't really quite qualify as changes by the standards of the list).

Here's a few I noticed isn't on the list: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/541928/#TopicPost541928

 http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/579914/#TopicPost579914

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/580798/#TopicPost580798

The artificial camera shake I mentioned in some of those posts is tough for 005 to make a picture comparison of though.

All of these are very minor and subtle changes that you may already know about and are not going to bother with, I just thought it would be unfortunate if you didn't know about them until after you were done with your edit.

I also noticed your comment regarding this one:

And it is indeed a 2004 change, look at it again against the original and you will clearly see it, the effect shot of Alderaan appear two times, there's also a slight difference between the two shots in the original IIRC, maybe the same effect sequence in both shots, just different in its duration.

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Thank you. Well, I don't see any difference in the first two x-wing shots (I'm not saying they weren't recomped but I just don't see any difference to justify using GOUT). The 2nd Luke's glove shot was fixed (it already is in the last WP).

The lasers do bother me a little but it would be a lot of work to redo something that lasts one frame and isn't substantially different (unlike say the lasers in the first flyby shot) and I don't know which all of them are (if someone wants to take pictures of all of them in my WP, so I know the exact frame in my project file and take pictures of them from GOUT, so I don't have to, I'll be happy to play around with it ;-D). 

I can't really remove the added shake without removing the original shake as well.

As to that shot of Yavin, I know there are two and both of them have the right to left movement that is said in 005's comment to be missing, which is what I was really trying to say.

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Those X-wing shots have some visible matte lines in the original and a slightly different position but other than that they are not that different so I understand you won't bother, those two recomposites are extremely faithful to the original, quite odd actually as they never bothered to emulate the original composites so precisely elsewhere what I've seen.

About those laser bolts, I'm only sure about those who appear in the absolutely last shot before Vader's entrance as the position and timing of them is so clearly different but there may be more of them in there of course. It's just such a tedious thing to go through and I guess even more so for you, maybe it's only those who appear differently in timing and position that's worthy of a despecializing if it's bothering you.

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msycamore said:

About those laser bolts, I'm only sure about those who appear in the absolutely last shot before Vader's entrance as the position and timing of them is so clearly different but there may be more of them in there of course.

So is that only those three in your post then? If so, I'll fix them.

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Yes, I believe so.

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Sorry for my hasty answer, Harmy. I believe all of them are recomped in that last shot.

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You have this one mislabeled as an '97 update, it is a 2004 change.

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This might be one of the most bizarre and subtle changes encountered yet, don't know what's most disturbing, Lucas changing it or me actually discovering the change. ;) I stumbled upon it by accident when matching the aspect ratio of my Technidisc LD against the 2004 transfer. Anyway, it appears that the reptilian creature seen in Mos Eisley got some color tweaks in some scenes when it was time for the 2004 transfer. Probably in an attempt of Lucas to bring some variation to their costumes, see the original green in their costumes changed to red.

Top: GOUT Bottom: 2004 DVD

Am I really correct about this being an actual deliberate change with all the color differences in the DVD and the not always accurate pallette in the GOUT? Yes, it looks like it, I've compared with all known sources and it looks like this was a deliberate change done for the 2004 DVD. Sometimes when this alien is seen in the cantina, or when Luke have just sold his speeder for example, no color tweaks were done. Not sure if there's more glimpses of them where a color tweak was done as I didn't check every Mos Eisley scene.

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Someone with better knowledge of color balance PLEASE prove him wrong, for all our sakes.

HARMY, STOP RENDERING!

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The reds look stronger in all those 2004 shots; nonetheless, it really does look like a deliberate change.  I can't believe it.  Every time I think that nothing else Lucas does will surprise me, we find another change that baffles me.

I suppose that Harmy could stop rendering and fix this, but there will always be something else to spot, and he has to finish sometime.

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This could be an example of EU clarification.  One costume, two characters.  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Saurin

Two Saurin were at the Mos Eisley Cantina on Tatooine in 0 BBY when Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi came to charter passage off the world.[3] One of the Saurin was Hrchek Kal Fas, a droid trader always on the lookout for cheap droids for sale, even if they were only available on the "invisible market."[32] Although he had come to the desert planet to investigate a possible business relationship with Tatooine's Jawas,[33] he heard news of a reward for two stolen droids, supposedly "close companions" of an Imperial officer. He saw through this cover story, but when he witnessed C-3PO and R2-D2 wander into the cantina, he suspected they might be the droids in question. He tailed them out into the streets of Mos Eisley, but they were nowhere to be seen.[34] The droid trader hired the tall Ranat Nevar Yalnal to do unskilled labor for him.[35] Hrchek Kal Fas also retained the services of his cousin, Sai'torr Kal Fas.[36][37] She was a savvy warrior and combat instructor who took on students she deemed to have the right potential.[38]

Also in 0 BBY, a Saurin was present in the streets of Mos Eisley as the spy Garindan shadowed Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi on their way to Docking Bay 94.[3] Later that year, a Saurin was captured on holofilm in the streets of Mos Eisley and broadcast as part of the Imperial program "Life on Tatooine."[39]

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Yep, it's definitely green in the IB Print. I'm not stopping anything though ;-)

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msycamore wrote: I've compared with all known sources and it looks like this was a deliberate change done for the 2004 DVD.

different line of questioning:

I stumbled upon it by accident when matching the aspect ratio of my Technidisc LD against the 2004 transfer.

How close of an alignment between the two are you getting with this?  Are you trying to do the whole movie or just pieces?  Asking as a DIF comparison is on my to do list, but haven't organized enough to find two versions which align in a semi-meaningful way to return an understandable result.