Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes — Page 29

^ Yup seems like the German was not changed.

SWHD Cinemax'06 (glitter)

SWBR2011

doubleofive wrote: Still confused. Looks like the stars are the same, so what we PMed was a German splicing error we hadn't noticed before. THAT makes sense...

Right.  Now were the German/foreign language crawls always a different starfield cropping or is this specific to the SE and this thread is still an unanswered question.

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RotJ 2011 : Boba's demise change

2011                                2004

So for those with expert eyes, how does this blow up of Boba look.  Is it up res'd, new scan, or did they dust off the suit and new capture all together.  The shadow on the extended arm is a little suspect...  *EDIT* nevermind, have been looking at a low res version, see how extensive this is now...

*EDIT*

2011 R2 Jump cut fix:

2011                              2004                               Difference Blending Mode

DarthLucas said:

The German crawls on the HD broadcasts were from some ancient upconverted source that don't even match the rest of the film.

That's not entirely true:

ANH had the crawl from the 1997 SE (in HD)

TESB has the original German theatrical crawl, including a typo that was actually fixed for the SE (in HD)

ROTJ got an SD-upscale of the original theatrical crawl (which was the same in the 1997 SE)

doubleofive wrote: Is Boba still firing in this close up? Does the soundtrack still have the sound of him shooting?

Doesn't look like he's shooting, that's why there's the shadow fix over the end of Boba's arm.  Sounds like the sound FX is still there.

Here are approximate times for the new Ewok eyeballs: (probably -20 seconds, the German crawl is looooonger so my working file is mistimed to a normal version)

1:03:20 : Wicket eyes
:25
:30
4:27
4:32
5:15
5:25
6:14
13:13
17:02
26:58
28:34

doubleofive said:

 

Promus said:

That might be a different take of Han Solo, but that's the same take of Fett. If you look closely, you can see that the blu-ray Fett looks pasted into the frame; that's because it looks like they used the same take of Fett (cut and pasted against a new background), just repositioned and "squeezed" horizontally (look at how his helmet is flattened side-to-side) to give the illusion of a different angle.

I disagree:



There are way too many differences in angle, shadow, and detail to be a manipulation, in my opinion.

 

Cool.  Alternate take. 

I bet they needed this alternate angle so they could put more CGI prequel characters in the background.

It's definitely an alternate take/angle, it's the same angle that the previous versions have for the explosion of the pack (see the last frame of None's 2004 comparison) they just used that angle for the full length of the closer shot as well.

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Glad to see that R2 jump-cut in ANH was fixed.

I believe there are 9 saber core fixes in the 2011, Star Wars Obi-Vader sequence, similar to the long shot already in doubleofive's page. Here's an example:

2004 2011

^ The top is the adjusted version? There's another variable involved, not sure what it is, but the background in the top version is not as flat as the bottom BR shot. The top also has red bleeding farther out from the saber edge. The edge in the BR is fairly thin.

doubleofive wrote: Very interested in ESB, as it would be the only one not given the new core treatment.

ESB is a different beast, from the DIF experiments, some of the ESB sabers completely black out, they are exact, but generally there is an overall increase in brightness to them, but it's not as if the cores were drasticly modified as in the RotJ examples so far. A different technique may have been used where instead of adding a new elements they've just selected the saber and upp'd a value or two. What you've done with this SW shot is what I expect was done on the ESB. Probably the same technic on all movies, just need to establish a little clearer what that process could have been.

The SW ones implies that it was a change to the whole shot as the DS windows get affected, maybe the RotJ has some additional selection.

*EDIT*

Can try working backwards, starting with the DIFF and see if the highlight increase can be removed.

There's something up in ESB, the close up shots of Luke and Han on the tauntauns, somethings up with the skys.