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Anyone else almost feint when All-Star Batman and Robin #5 was on shelves this week? Not only that, but it was fairly descent this time. I will say that I think Miller's characterizations are waaay off in many respects, but I like the new direction.
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Are you kidding? It's still the same comic it's always been. Miller's basically writing an overt self parody at this point. There's no other logical justification for lines like:

"I love being the goddamn BATMAN!"

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Are you kidding? It's still the same comic it's always been. Miller's basically writing an overt self parody at this point. There's no other logical justification for lines like:

"I love being the goddamn BATMAN!"


I like the over-the-topness of it. Especially the "Shut up" from Wonder Woman every five seconds...LOL.

Have you heard about his Holy Terror, Batman! project? It's basically a Batman vs Al Queda propaganda piece.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yeah, I've heard about it.

Not sure what to think of it.


I get the feeling that Miller is becoming more conservative in his old age. Just based on my own gut. Nothing else.
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Thinking of picking up the first volume of Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus. Have to look it over. Not sure if I want to invest the time or $$ over four volumes of a series that never got finished.

Anyone else read Watchmen? Picked it up last week and am reading it now.
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Watchmen is awesome.A truly great graphic novel.One of the most influential pieces of comic writing ever.Alan Moore is a really talented guy.V for Vendetta,Watchmen,Killing Joke.............

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Originally posted by: JediSage
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yeah, I've heard about it.

Not sure what to think of it.

I get the feeling that Miller is becoming more conservative in his old age. Just based on my own gut. Nothing else.


Miller's definitely right-wing, but not exactly conservative. Whores whores whores whores!
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Thinking of picking up the first volume of Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus. Have to look it over. Not sure if I want to invest the time or $$ over four volumes of a series that never got finished.

Anyone else read Watchmen? Picked it up last week and am reading it now.


Watchmen is the ultimate graphic novel; no story I know of has come close to surpassing it.

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I loved Watchmen when I read it. (Far better than V for Vendetta.) Fantastic book. Rorschach was the hero of the story as far as I'm concerned. Too bad he failed in the end, but I think he also kind of won strangely.

It would make a fantastic film if they could get a director to completely reproduce the story/images faithfully at each and every point. It had the most compelling and realistic take I've ever seen for "super heroes" and what their lives would really be like. It deserves an equally realistic translation to film in my mind, one that captures all of the character drama and doesn't try to insert a bunch of special effects or other sensational crap.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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People have been struggling to get a Watchmen movie off the ground for a while now.Moore does not like the way his work has been translated to film.Apparently there may be an adaptation going into pre-pro fairly soon though.Rumours abound.

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We've already seen a supposedly real (confirmed by the stuido) shot of what Rorschach will look like in the film.

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Though I seriously hope they do a version that actually has the ink-under transparent material from the book. A Rorschach mask that doesn't change from shot-to-shot isn't a Rorschach mask.

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The Watchmen movie I believe is well under way, with Zach Snyder directing. I believe that Ron Perlman is playing The Comedian.
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Originally posted by: JediSage
The Watchmen movie I believe is well under way, with Zach Snyder directing. I believe that Ron Perlman is playing The Comedian.


I thought Gerard Butler was playing the Comedian.
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The Watchmen movie I believe is well under way, with Zach Snyder directing. I believe that Ron Perlman is playing The Comedian.


I thought Gerard Butler was playing the Comedian.


He would be a WAY better choice, IMO. Perlman is good, but Butler would be better.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Moebius--if you're not into the Superhero Genre, have you tried Bill Willingham's Fables series?


Fables is great guys, give it a crack. Lots of plot threads running all the way through it, tonnes of potential even this far into the series. But start from the beginning, don't just jump straight in.

My girlfriend actually BEGS me to borrow the next volume. That's how good it is.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: JediSage
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Yeah, I've heard about it.

Not sure what to think of it.

I get the feeling that Miller is becoming more conservative in his old age. Just based on my own gut. Nothing else.


Miller's definitely right-wing, but not exactly conservative. Whores whores whores whores!
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Thinking of picking up the first volume of Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus. Have to look it over. Not sure if I want to invest the time or $$ over four volumes of a series that never got finished.

Anyone else read Watchmen? Picked it up last week and am reading it now.


Watchmen is the ultimate graphic novel; no story I know of has come close to surpassing it.


I was tempted by the Omnibus myself. What do you guys think of Kirby's work? I've never read anything of his, to be honest, and I was thinking of making this my first Kirby book...

Sage, you don't know how lucky you are, reading that book for the first time right now. It may not seem like it at first, but it really is one of the greatest things you'll read. Period.
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Originally posted by: JediSage
So who's reading what these days? I'm so far behind it's ridiculous (so no 52 spoilers PLEASE!). I'm still in the early 40's on that one. Everyone looking forward to Countdown? Or is everyone pissed off that there's another 4 books a month they have to buy?


I'm reading Justice League, Justice Society, Brave and the Bold, Countdown, the Spirit, Detective Comics (when Dini's on it), All-Star Superman, Welcome to Tranquility and Action whenever Donner and Johns are at the helm.

The Spirit is very clever. Great one-shot stories there. Brave and the Bold is brimming with old-school magic too in much the same way. Supergirl and Green Lantern were hilarious together. Detective has some pretty good one shots as well.

The Red Tornado storyline in JLA was promising, but now things are feeling a bit sub-par. I don't know if JSA is as good as the critics are saying, but it's still pretty good.

All-Star Superman and the Donner/Johns Action line feature some of the best Superman stories ever - which is not hard given the muck he's been dragged through over the decades, but they're great nonetheless. I'm finding Morrison's run on Batman to be almost as fun as All-Star Superman too. So refreshing to have fun Batman stories after all these years.

Countdown is shaping up to be a good, fast-paced TV series kind of comic. Like Heroes, I guess you could say.

I recommend Welcome to Tranquility for those who appreciate a different take on the superhero genre, of the geriatric kind!

I'm up to the final volume of Sandman (Endless Nights), and I don't know what I'm going to do with myself now that I'm near the end.

And does anybody know what the hell happened to Loeb and Cooke on Batman/Spirit? I've got issue #1, then nada...
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I just got back into reading comics. I was a big fan of Vertigo stuff during the early/mid 90's, as well as stuff like Bone and some manga (pretty much just Katsuhiro Otomo). What is out nowadays that is anything like those things? Like these things, what else should I check out (any time period)?
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I'm up to the final volume of Sandman (Endless Nights), and I don't know what I'm going to do with myself now that I'm near the end.

And does anybody know what the hell happened to Loeb and Cooke on Batman/Spirit? I've got issue #1, then nada...


I read Sandman for the first time about 2 years ago. Great stuff.

Loeb went to Marvel, so not sure if he'll finish that or not.
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And does anybody know what the hell happened to Loeb and Cooke on Batman/Spirit? I've got issue #1, then nada...


Batman/Spirit was a one shot.

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And does anybody know what the hell happened to Loeb and Cooke on Batman/Spirit? I've got issue #1, then nada...


Batman/Spirit was a one shot.


But it left everything so up in the air! Perhaps it was just to get Spirit on his feet...

But I did suspect that Loeb's move to Marvel may have done it as well (although, we're still getting Superman Confidential from the Loeb/Cooke team, aren't we?). I always thought that Loeb was a freelancer, still.
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I dunno, not read it.

Mostly because it was like five bucks and I hadn't seen any reviews yet.

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So who went to Balticon this year? I took out the entire weekend for it.
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Man, still slugging my way through Watchmen. It's a DENSE book, with lots going on. I have the feeling I'll be drained and tired after finishing that one. Great so far, though. Rorschach will need to be handled carefully in the movie.
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