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I honestly do not understand how the writer's of those comics can live with themselves. Did they just not notice how out-of-context those panels could be taken?

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A few pages back we were talking about Krypto and how he should be retconned out of existence. Well today I was in Walmart checking out the toys (as you do) and I saw toys from a Krypto TV show on cartoon network. Has anyone seen it? I got home and googled it and this is what I found:

What a bag of shite

War does not make one great.

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The theme is deffinitely a throwback to an earlier era... As in, Tom and Jerry Kids earlier.

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People, I need help. I am looking for a picture of batman with his cape draping over him, maybe with one hand holding the cape. I'm not looking for any specific picture, but I can imagine in my head what I need and I know I've seen similar pictures before so if anyone has any, please pass them on. Thanks.

P.S It needs to be comic or TAS art, i.e no live action.

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Anyone a Green Arrow fan here? I was absolutely enthralled by the Grell series from back in the late '80s, much better than the shite they call Green Arrow these days, and surprisingly brilliant artwork.
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I've started getting into the character recently. So far I've read Grell's Longbow Hunters and Kevin Smith's Quiver. Both very good books with very different approaches to the character. I like both sides of the Green Arrow.
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Never really been into Green Arrow much. I might have to check some of his stuff out.

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I fear for the new Captain America film that is set to be put into production in 2009.

1) I'm afraid they'll update or "modernize" his costume, which is purposefully meant to evoke the image of the American flag, by making the red aspects (gloves, boots, stripes) maroon or burgundy like they did to the Superman costume in SR so that Cap will look "darker and more mysterious" even though he's not meant to be a dark/mysterious character.

2) I'm afraid that the film just won't do well at the box office regardless of how well written, acted, directed and marketed it is because Cap stands for Truth, Justice, & The American Way, the last one which will make it difficult to market him to the global market and will just turn off cynical audiences who don't care about being patriotic or loving their country or whatever.

And now for something completely different - does anyone else here think it's really stupid to put Wonder Woman back in the Invisible Jet for the new movie that Joss Whedon's supposed to be making for her? (forgive me if I ranted about this a few pages ago; my memory's been shot lately)

I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

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As long as the jet makes her invisible as well, I don't think it's a problem. I don't just understand why they don't maker her fly. "Superman Returns" proves that it can be done believably.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
As long as the jet makes her invisible as well, I don't think it's a problem. I don't just understand why they don't maker her fly. "Superman Returns" proves that it can be done believably.

Wonder Woman flies in modern DC Comic Books, a gift betsowed upon her by Hermes in the post-Crisis reboot by George Perez. Wonder Woman flew oN Bruce Timm's Justice League series, just as she flies in modern comics. Comic book films should reflect the characters as they are in the time that they are made, and not reflect what the character was like 20 or 30 years ago, at least that's how I see it.

I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
I fear for the new Captain America film that is set to be put into production in 2009.

1) I'm afraid they'll update or "modernize" his costume, which is purposefully meant to evoke the image of the American flag, by making the red aspects (gloves, boots, stripes) maroon or burgundy like they did to the Superman costume in SR so that Cap will look "darker and more mysterious" even though he's not meant to be a dark/mysterious character.

2) I'm afraid that the film just won't do well at the box office regardless of how well written, acted, directed and marketed it is because Cap stands for Truth, Justice, & The American Way, the last one which will make it difficult to market him to the global market and will just turn off cynical audiences who don't care about being patriotic or loving their country or whatever.

And now for something completely different - does anyone else here think it's really stupid to put Wonder Woman back in the Invisible Jet for the new movie that Joss Whedon's supposed to be making for her? (forgive me if I ranted about this a few pages ago; my memory's been shot lately)


Not necessarily people who don't care about being patriotic as far as the global market is concerned, more just people who aren't patriotic about a country they don't live in. I have to say, while I do know a fair bit about Captain America and he is fairly well-known amongst my nerdier peers, he would hardly rank at all in the popularity stakes as far as comic book sales/character prestige is concerned. As I understand, Captain America isn't far below the popularity of say Batman or Spiderman in the US.
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Hm, while I do agree that comic books often take too many liberties with the source material, I'm afraid it's not anything that's going to change soon.

The problem with comic book movies is that it has to condense 70 years of retcons, reboots, and continuity into two hours of cinema and still squeez a plot in there. They tend to aim for the proverbial lowest common denominator--in this case, the general populace who doesn't know the characters' histories like fans. Everything has to be dumbed down for those who are unable or unwilling to follow years of history.

Which is why Batman Begins retold Bruce's origin story and why it introduced Ra's al Ghul gradually instead of having him be the kind of figure he is in the comics.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Hm, while I do agree that comic books often take too many liberties with the source material, I'm afraid it's not anything that's going to change soon.

The problem with comic book movies is that it has to condense 70 years of retcons, reboots, and continuity into two hours of cinema and still squeez a plot in there. They tend to aim for the proverbial lowest common denominator--in this case, the general populace who doesn't know the characters' histories like fans. Everything has to be dumbed down for those who are unable or unwilling to follow years of history.

Which is why Batman Begins retold Bruce's origin story and why it introduced Ra's al Ghul gradually instead of having him be the kind of figure he is in the comics.
Hmm. Good point.

theredbaronNot necessarily people who don't care about being patriotic as far as the global market is concerned, more just people who aren't patriotic about a country they don't live in. I have to say, while I do know a fair bit about Captain America and he is fairly well-known amongst my nerdier peers, he would hardly rank at all in the popularity stakes as far as comic book sales/character prestige is concerned. As I understand, Captain America isn't far below the popularity of say Batman or Spiderman in the US.

Again, good point.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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Iron Man was the first comic I ever collected, so I'm pretty excited about this. I was worried it might just be another crappy Marvel adaptation but with Jon Favreau directing, this could be great.

From the Marvel website:

At the San Diego Comic Con this past weekend, director/actor/writer Jon Favreau, who is set to helm the highly anticipated big screen adaptation of Iron Man, announced who Shellhead's nemesis would be in the upcoming film.

Mr. Favreau of Swingers and Made fame, named fan-favorite and long-standing Iron Man archenemy Mandarin as the villain who will be the rust in Tony Stark's armor.

Additionally, we have a sneak peak of the teaser poster that was shown at the convention. Designed by Iron Man artist Adi Granov—a major player in the production design of this film—this poster gives a glimpse as to what Stark could look like when he eventually dons the red and gold suit in May of 2008.

This project, the first feature film to be produced independently by Marvel Entertainment, is expected to be financed through Marvel's $525 million revolving film financing facility and distributed under Marvel's overall distribution arrangement with Paramount. Iron Man will mark the first production under Mr. Arad's newly launched production company, Avi Arad Productions.

Storyboarding has already commenced. Favreau had stated that he intended to cast an unknown in the role of Anthony Stark a.k.a Iron Man, though rumors are gaining momentum. Favreau has also said that the plot itself will not so much deal with his personal problems (alcoholism) as much as the creation of his suit and the birth of Iron Man. However, he did say if there would be a sequel, the story could easily head in some of those directions.

Keep your eye-beams on the look out for more news on this metal-head movie.

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Sweet. I hope the Iron Man design is good... I'm not really fond of the model used in "Ultimate Avengers" (The movies; not read the Ultimates comcis)

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Yeah, there's a real danger of the suit looking shit (remember Steel starring Shaq?). Even a Robocop-style suit would not cut it for Iron Man. It can't be bulky (Well, the prototpe suit he dons when he gets injured can be bulky, but when the red and gold suit must look cool).

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: JON FAVREAU (IRON MAN)
07.27.06
By Devin Faraci

http://chud.com/nextraimages/IronManteasersm.jpg Could one on ones with Jon Favreau be a Comic Con tradition? I certainly hope so. Last year I talked to him about Zathura and practical special effects as well as growing up in Queens; this year it’s all Iron Man. That’s Favreau’s next picture, which should begin filming in February.

The movie doesn’t have a finished script, but Favreau has already given a lot of thought to what his take will be like on every level from story to character to thematic elements. Iron Man has never been my favorite character, but after spending a couple of minutes talking with Favreau it’s not hard to pick up the guy’s enthusiasm.

I caught up with Jon at the tail end of his lunch. As he finished up his sandwich we made a little small talk about the Marvel Movie panel, which he would be going to after the interview, and where he would appear with Shaun of the Dead director Edgar Wright.

Favreau: I love Shaun of the Dead. It’s a little like Swingers meets Dawn of the Dead.

Q: Have you met Edgar yet?

Favreau: No. But I did like the movie enough to watch the behind the scenes featurette, though. So I feel like I have.

Q: Why Iron Man?

Favreau: Why? First of all, Avi [Arad]. Ever since Daredevil we’ve been talking about doing something. I’d always been leaning towards, from a creative standpoint, Captain America. It seemed like fertile ground, not just for the storytelling but in humor – a guy frozen in time and waking up, there’s a little Austin Powers opportunity there. But cinematically Captain America is scary. I’m not a CG believer – you have to prove to me it can be done. An organic character, like a guy in tights, in CG, I don’t buy it yet. Doing a robotic suit in CG? Now you’re talking. You could do reflections right, surfaces right. You can finally do it right as a movie – and it’s a character that’s never been done in a movie before.

Q: It’s an untouched property.

Favreau: Right. What Bryan Singer and Chris Nolan was dealing with on their franchises is that they were trying to make good films with the added pressure of having good films made before them with the same characters. This is a tabla rasa, I can do anything.

And what’s great is that you’ve got an arms dealer with a definite conservative political leanings taken hostage in, in this case, Afghanistan right now in the real world. What happens to that guy? How does the world see him? How does he see himself? How does he change? There’s a tremendous amount of opportunities from a character and story viewpoint, which is my background. The popcorn takes care of itself in a way; my job is to keep it real enough that you buy it and you’re not disengaged emotionally from the story. If you can have the popcorn aspect of the film not take you out of the emotional aspect of the film, then I think you’ve really got something. I think this is the one franchise and the one character where you really can do it.

And this is the first Marvel movie. From a financial standpoint, this is an independent film.

Q: It’s got to be really liberating to be working with the new Marvel Studios.

Favreau: It’s the best of both worlds.

http://chud.com/nextraimages/favfilm.jpgQ: You’re not fighting with executives who want to give him a cute robot sidekick or whatever.

Favreau: And then you’ve got Avi and Kevin [Feige] and Ari [Arad] who have been through it enough to know how to translate it to the screen in a way that it’s not becoming a niche genre piece. But you have all the freedom of an independent film and all of the support and resources of a big Paramount movie. You get spoiled as a filmmaker. We’re going to shoot this thing in LA with a character that I love with a built-in recognition factor. After Zathura I’m just happy to have a movie whose name you can pronounce.

Q: One of the challenges for Iron Man is that he doesn’t have the kind of a rogues gallery that Spider-Man or Batman have. His biggest villain is himself in a lot of ways, but you’re not hitting that alcoholism story here. What are you going to do for a bad guy?

Favreau: The first thing that’s important to me is not to have a rogues gallery of magic based or mutation based villains that also happen to live in this world. The only leap I want the audience to make is that the repulsor technology allows him to build the suit and be Iron Man – everything else has to be real. All villains have to be tech-based. How do you take a character like the Mandarin and transpose him to this reality? That’s what we’re working on now.

Q: And he’s a tough character because in his original appearances he’s a racist caricature.

Favreau: There are certain fears and certain strengths the character evokes that are applicable, but of course you have to completely remove any of that short sighted cultural ignorance that leads to any sort of bigotry in the storytelling. That isn’t to say those fears and shortcomings of Iron Man as relating to that character aren’t relevant.

Think about what made the Mandarin someone everybody gravitated to – if you look at the message boards, overwhelmingly that’s someone everyone wants to see. He was intelligent, he was powerful, he was mysterious. He was always one step ahead. Despite his suit and technology, Iron Man was always the underdog. Mandarin always had this Machiavellian web he would fall into. He was based in China which was then mysterious because it was Red China. Today China is mysterious in other ways because it’s Global China. China is thehttp://chud.com/nextraimages/favreauironman.jpg economic powerhouse that is quickly catching up and will eventually surpass us.

Q: Which works perfectly with Tony Stark as the billionaire industrialist.

Favreau: That’s exactly right.

What are the ten rings of the Mandarin now? Are they magic rings that shoot fire and ice out of his fingertips? Probably not. Is he a guy with a Fu Manchu mustache? Probably not. Is he a guy from the East who is mysterious in what his desires and goals are, and is he a formidable enemy to Tony Stark? Yes. For sure. And so the fun is how do you make it so that the fan of the books know you’re paying attention to what’s there but at the same time make it relevant to the real world, real politics story we’re trying to tell.

Q: How old are you going with Tony Stark? In the comics he tends to be a little bit on the older side.

Favreau: I want to do 30s for sure, and I think we’ll have the freedom to do that. I think you buy him anywhere from early 30s to early 40s. You also want a guy who you believe really runs a company. You don’t want Doogie Howser. You also want a guy who’s going to be around and fun to have in future episodes that will be a few years apart. So you want somebody who is in that right age, and somebody who has got the chops but who isn’t famous yet.

Q: So you’re looking at this as setting up a franchise? You’re approaching this film as the sringboard for future stories?

Favreau: Yes. I got to know where he’s going. I got to know the alcoholism is coming in later. I got to know how this one ends and what Iron Man stands for at the end and how he moves through the world. He’s not a vigilante. He’s a political force. He’s emblematic of America right now, with all the technology and power but there’s a conflicted nature as to when to act and with how much force. When to get involved and when not to get involved. These are all interesting things you could actually explore on a mythic level with a superhero. It’s a lot more interesting than doing a Syriana type movie. What should America represent, and how does Iron Man embody that? It’s fun.

Q: I talked to Avi Arad last week and he said that with Marvel bringing the characters back into the fold there was more of a chance of them crossing over. I know that you want to keep the character believable, but is there any thought of setting Iron Man in something like the Marvel Universe?

Favreau: Not right now. You can, but I think sometimes it undermines the reality of the story. I wouldn’t set him in a quote unquote Marvel Universe in the first film. Maybe others could emerge, but there’s a convenience factor where you’re asking the audience to buy a lot when you’re saying not only is this guy a superhero, the guy across the street is a supervillain. It becomes a bit too storybook for this particular franchise. This has to be based in real politics with real people, and the only thing I want audiences to have to buy is that the suit can really fly.


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