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I've read a million and one Batman TPBs, but I only just picked up Batman #650 last week. I read it and thought it was pretty decent, but it raises a few questions for me, that I'm hoping one of you guys can answer. I know he's been running around as the Red Hood for the last year, killing crims and stuff like that, but riddle me this:

1) How did Jason Todd come back to life?
2) Why is he such a freakin' psycho?

I read A Death in the Family about two weeks ago, so I know all about Jason Todd's death. But it pisses me off how Jason won't take responsibility for his own death now. Batman laid down the law from the start, told Jason he had to take a break from being Robin. HE ran off across the Middle-East looking for three people who *might* be his mother. HE didn't wait for Batman to come back before they took down the Joker together. It's HIS fault. The only mistakes Batman made was not kicking his ass for disobeying him and not taking Jason with him when he was stopping those medical supplies from shipping...

In fact, Batman's only mistake was trusting Jason Todd too much. If proof's in the pudding, then Jason couldn't even be trusted with his own life...
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
I've read a million and one Batman TPBs, but I only just picked up Batman #650 last week. I read it and thought it was pretty decent, but it raises a few questions for me, that I'm hoping one of you guys can answer. I know he's been running around as the Red Hood for the last year, killing crims and stuff like that, but riddle me this:

1) How did Jason Todd come back to life?
2) Why is he such a freakin' psycho?

I read A Death in the Family about two weeks ago, so I know all about Jason Todd's death. But it pisses me off how Jason won't take responsibility for his own death now. Batman laid down the law from the start, told Jason he had to take a break from being Robin. HE ran off across the Middle-East looking for three people who *might* be his mother. HE didn't wait for Batman to come back before they took down the Joker together. It's HIS fault. The only mistakes Batman made was not kicking his ass for disobeying him and not taking Jason with him when he was stopping those medical supplies from shipping...

In fact, Batman's only mistake was trusting Jason Todd too much. If proof's in the pudding, then Jason couldn't even be trusted with his own life...


Very true and kinda forgotten by comic readers aver the past several years. Jason Todd's return has just been recently explained in Batman Annual #25 which came out a couple of months back: http://comics.ign.com/articles/677/677822p1.html.

The heart of the story is in the right place but I think it relied too heavily on 'Infinite Crisis' to give it an 'out'...

**spoilers**



If you've read any Infinite Crisis then you know that Superboy Prime, led on by Alex Luthor, had been hammering away at the walls of their 'heaven' which caused ripples in the very fabric of reality until the barrier actually shattered. This gives DC an excuse to say that any retcon stuff they want to pull was caused by the ripples in the universe... and that is exactly how Jason became alive again. The rest of the annual lays out what happened to him and his mental state because of being dead. If you can just kind of ignore the whole 'ta-da! I'm alive' bit then the rest of the story is a good read.
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Thanks for the explanation. I haven't read Infinite Crisis yet (though I have read Crisis on Infinite Earths recently). I've been waiting for the TPB because it was getting too expensive per issue.
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Thanks for the explanation. I haven't read Infinite Crisis yet (though I have read Crisis on Infinite Earths recently). I've been waiting for the TPB because it was getting too expensive per issue.


I know! You can preorder the Inifnite Crisis hardcover here: Discount Comic Book Service for a great $12.49! I order from this company and they have really good service and discounts!

EDIT: And NO, I don't work for them or get any kickbacks.
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That's too good to be true... there must be some sort of catch.

On another note...

Be sure to pick up Superman: Secret Identity if you can. It's basically a retelling of the story of Superboy-Prime in which he DOESN'T become a whiny self-righteous monster.

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Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones

I must acquire this then.

Is there still a Red Sonja series in production?


There is a series running from Dynamite Entertainment. I have one issue which was very good but I haven't been picking it up regularly to know if its a good series overall. Also, on a weird note, there's a legal battle about the name and who can use the character because I guess one company owns the rights to the spelling 'Sonya' and another owns 'Sonja'. Stupid legal stuff.

http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/images/RS13.jpg


Thanks.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
That's too good to be true... there must be some sort of catch.

On another note...

Be sure to pick up Superman: Secret Identity if you can. It's basically a retelling of the story of Superboy-Prime in which he DOESN'T become a whiny self-righteous monster.


No catch- they have really good prices in general and always run monthly specials- I bought the 'Astonishing X-Men' hardcover collection (issues 1-12) from them a couple of months back for $14.99! If there is any 'catch' its that you are ordering from Previews (the Diamond Comics distribution catalog) and are pre-ordering two months in advance the same way comic stores do. But just like your local comic shop you can establish a monthly 'pull list' to make your ordering easier but are under no obligation to order any product from month to month.
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I'm going to buy Ultimate X-men tomarrow I bought Ultimate Spiderman today.
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I got #2 and #4 not in great condition but still not horrible.
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We will get a clone saga out of Ultimate Spiderman.
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Hopefully they learned from their mistakes with the past Clone Saga and will do it less crappy this time.

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The Civil War thing sounds cool I'm going to check it out toMARROW.
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I'm re-reading Kevin Smith's Green Arrow: Quiver. Great book - worth it just for the first three pages - the most kick-ass Superman/Batman dialogue ever IMHO.
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
I'm re-reading Kevin Smith's Green Arrow: Quiver. Great book - worth it just for the first three pages - the most kick-ass Superman/Batman dialogue ever IMHO.


I'll keep an eye out for it.

Has anyone read the Superman/Shazam: First Thunder miniseries?

I don't know why, but I wish they'd do a mini-series focusing on Superman working with the Martian Manhunter. Something about them being the last survivors of their respective races makes me feel like there should be a mini-series focusing just on them working together. DC could call it The Last Sons.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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Bought the Ultimate Spiderman Annual today.
4.5 out of 5 stars.
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Originally posted by: theredbaron
I'm re-reading Kevin Smith's Green Arrow: Quiver. Great book - worth it just for the first three pages - the most kick-ass Superman/Batman dialogue ever IMHO.


I'll keep an eye out for it.

Has anyone read the Superman/Shazam: First Thunder miniseries?

I don't know why, but I wish they'd do a mini-series focusing on Superman working with the Martian Manhunter. Something about them being the last survivors of their respective races makes me feel like there should be a mini-series focusing just on them working together. DC could call it The Last Sons.


Haven't read the Superman/Shazam books at all. But your Martian Manhunter/Superman idea is brilliant. I've seen the parallels highlighted before in a few books I've read, but it hasn't really been capitalised on. MM is such a cool character, it's good to see he's getting his own series again. I just hope they do justice to the character.
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Originally posted by: theredbaron
I'm re-reading Kevin Smith's Green Arrow: Quiver. Great book - worth it just for the first three pages - the most kick-ass Superman/Batman dialogue ever IMHO.


I'll keep an eye out for it.

Has anyone read the Superman/Shazam: First Thunder miniseries?

I don't know why, but I wish they'd do a mini-series focusing on Superman working with the Martian Manhunter. Something about them being the last survivors of their respective races makes me feel like there should be a mini-series focusing just on them working together. DC could call it The Last Sons.


Haven't read the Superman/Shazam books at all. But your Martian Manhunter/Superman idea is brilliant. I've seen the parallels highlighted before in a few books I've read, but it hasn't really been capitalised on. MM is such a cool character, it's good to see he's getting his own series again. I just hope they do justice to the character.

Thanks redbaron. Martian Manhunter is a very cool character; he reminds me of the Silver Surfer in some ways, but that's another discussion (some think he's more the quivalent of the Vision from the Avengers). You might think me crazy, but I suspect that the Martian Manhunter must feel somewhat envious towards Superman, envious of how happy and at home Superman feels on Earth even though it is not his home planet, a feeling that MM himself will probably never attain.

I'd love to see a movie about the Martian Manhunter's exploits, but it may never happen, not in my lifetime at least. If they do a Justice League film they should include him in that.

So... who here has seen the direct to DVD animated feature of the Ultimate Avengers? (Forgive me if this was discussed already)
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

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Ultimate Avengers is.... It's alright. Not amazing, not bad. They took out the good stuff from the comic book, like the part where the alien beats Captain America down and tells him to surrender, and Captain says: "What do you think this letter on my head stands for? FRANCE?!?!" Then beats the crap out of the alien.

I really wanted to see that.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
That's funny, if not a little racist.


Well, unless the French are actually aliens themselves, it's a bunch of white guys making fun of other white guys. So it's fair .

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Who is your guys favorite comic book character?
Mine would be JJJ
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Ultimate Avengers is.... It's alright. Not amazing, not bad. They took out the good stuff from the comic book, like the part where the alien beats Captain America down and tells him to surrender, and Captain says: "What do you think this letter on my head stands for? FRANCE?!?!" Then beats the crap out of the alien.

I really wanted to see that.


That sounds good. I bought the DVD and that would have been funny to see in there. The way they draw Captain America without the mask, they make him look like Duke from the GI Joe cartoons of yore.

For some reason, I feel like watching Captain America fight the Predator.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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My neigbor let me borrow his comics today it has alot of TMNT and Robotech and The Shadow.