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Because He-Man scares me.
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Because He-Man scares me.
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Originally posted by: battlewars
do modern kids even give a shit about he man now? i hope not since all those cartoon shows from the 80's were money making schemes to get parents to buy crap action figures because their kids were marketed to by half hour commercials disguised as tv shows
do modern kids even give a shit about he man now? i hope not since all those cartoon shows from the 80's were money making schemes to get parents to buy crap action figures because their kids were marketed to by half hour commercials disguised as tv shows
They weren't the first, trust me.
Is anyone going to see the adaptations of "V for Vendetta" or Frank Miller's "300"?
Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
V For Vendetta looks interesting, but I'm going to make sure it's not universally panned first.
V For Vendetta looks interesting, but I'm going to make sure it's not universally panned first.
Good idea.
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*Possible Spoiler*
It's going into the 4th issue and Miller's STILL got Batman and Grayson in the damn Batmobile!!! I think the artwork is fantastic, but Miller's dialogue is terribly repetitive and the action is quite slow moving.
On the plus side, A-S Superman is great so far. Fantastic artwork and an actual plot.
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Below is just random imagery that I thought looked neat.
Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
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BTW, if any of you have never been there, Z-Cult FM kicks ass.
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COIE is, to say the least an impressive feat in terms of artwork. The dialogue for me is a little dated, as well as the "clouds" denoting internal dialogue and thoughts. Not many doing that anymore.
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Originally posted by: JediSage
I'm trying to read Crisis on Infinite Earths right now, then will read Infinite Crisis. I read all the tie-ins except Sacrifice (just got the TPB) and Return of Donna Troy. Looking forward to it.
COIE is, to say the least an impressive feat in terms of artwork. The dialogue for me is a little dated, as well as the "clouds" denoting internal dialogue and thoughts. Not many doing that anymore.
I'm trying to read Crisis on Infinite Earths right now, then will read Infinite Crisis. I read all the tie-ins except Sacrifice (just got the TPB) and Return of Donna Troy. Looking forward to it.
COIE is, to say the least an impressive feat in terms of artwork. The dialogue for me is a little dated, as well as the "clouds" denoting internal dialogue and thoughts. Not many doing that anymore.
COIE is one of my all-time favorite comic stories. I've read comics on and off since the mid 70s but haven't avidly collected since 1998- so I'll bite... just what ARE they doing now instead of thought balloons (ie the 'clouds') to show inner dialogue?
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Originally posted by: greencapt
COIE is one of my all-time favorite comic stories. I've read comics on and off since the mid 70s but haven't avidly collected since 1998- so I'll bite... just what ARE they doing now instead of thought balloons (ie the 'clouds') to show inner dialogue?
Originally posted by: JediSage
I'm trying to read Crisis on Infinite Earths right now, then will read Infinite Crisis. I read all the tie-ins except Sacrifice (just got the TPB) and Return of Donna Troy. Looking forward to it.
COIE is, to say the least an impressive feat in terms of artwork. The dialogue for me is a little dated, as well as the "clouds" denoting internal dialogue and thoughts. Not many doing that anymore.
I'm trying to read Crisis on Infinite Earths right now, then will read Infinite Crisis. I read all the tie-ins except Sacrifice (just got the TPB) and Return of Donna Troy. Looking forward to it.
COIE is, to say the least an impressive feat in terms of artwork. The dialogue for me is a little dated, as well as the "clouds" denoting internal dialogue and thoughts. Not many doing that anymore.
COIE is one of my all-time favorite comic stories. I've read comics on and off since the mid 70s but haven't avidly collected since 1998- so I'll bite... just what ARE they doing now instead of thought balloons (ie the 'clouds') to show inner dialogue?
That was one thing that struck me when I returned to collecting a few years back. I initially collected right after COIE came out, which would have been around '86 or so, when it was still common. I think Miller's run on Dark Knight and Year One had more to do with this being over than anything else.
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Like submerge the industry into nearly ten years of "XTREME!!!!!!11eleventy" crap. I know Moore and Miller and the like didn't mean to do it, but unfortunately their contributions were 'copied' by lesser writers and it nearly destroyed the industry.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Well, Dark Knight and Year One helped do a lot of things...
Like submerge the industry into nearly ten years of "XTREME!!!!!!11eleventy" crap. I know Moore and Miller and the like didn't mean to do it, but unfortunately their contributions were 'copied' by lesser writers and it nearly destroyed the industry.
Well, Dark Knight and Year One helped do a lot of things...
Like submerge the industry into nearly ten years of "XTREME!!!!!!11eleventy" crap. I know Moore and Miller and the like didn't mean to do it, but unfortunately their contributions were 'copied' by lesser writers and it nearly destroyed the industry.
What? I don't follow...
I've always understood the industry was almost crushed because of investors who didn't know anything about it and were looking for a safety net during the recession of the early 90's. They bought any comic they could get their hands on, which forced companies to ramp production, then when it ended the publishers tanked.
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If the stories had been consistently good instead of being based on gimmicks, then the speculation would have given away to much lower but still steady sales, not wholesale abandonment by many customers who realzied that not only were these books not, in fact, worth any money, but that they also tended to suck.
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I actually toy with the idea of someday opening a comic shop in the city where I now live which really doesn't have one. Those were good times for me, working in the comic shop. A place where geeks and non-geeks alike could hang out and discuss fun but useless stuff- much like we do here!
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Yeah both you guys are correct- crap stories and investor buying BOTH contributed to the near-death of comics. As always there were other factors but those were the biggest. I managed a comic store from about '93-'98 which was the height of this painful time. My heart dropped everytime I sold 20 copies of a comic to some person who would say "This will put my kid through college!" Even if it meant the sale being lost I would still try to explain that it was quality and more importantly SCARCITY that made comics financially valuable. I personally find the value in comics to be the level of enjoyability I get from reading them... waiting to find out what happens next... great art and great story and the feelings you get when experiencing them as a whole. Too many kids and adults 'collected' comics as opposed to reading comics. Sigh. I used to tell these investors that if they REALLY wanted to increase their chances of the comic becoming valuable then they should buy 20 copies and DESTROY 19 of them. In fact the more that are destroyed the more 'valuable' the remaining ones become. I call this 'forced scarcity' but regretfully it never caught on.
I actually toy with the idea of someday opening a comic shop in the city where I now live which really doesn't have one. Those were good times for me, working in the comic shop. A place where geeks and non-geeks alike could hang out and discuss fun but useless stuff- much like we do here!
Yeah both you guys are correct- crap stories and investor buying BOTH contributed to the near-death of comics. As always there were other factors but those were the biggest. I managed a comic store from about '93-'98 which was the height of this painful time. My heart dropped everytime I sold 20 copies of a comic to some person who would say "This will put my kid through college!" Even if it meant the sale being lost I would still try to explain that it was quality and more importantly SCARCITY that made comics financially valuable. I personally find the value in comics to be the level of enjoyability I get from reading them... waiting to find out what happens next... great art and great story and the feelings you get when experiencing them as a whole. Too many kids and adults 'collected' comics as opposed to reading comics. Sigh. I used to tell these investors that if they REALLY wanted to increase their chances of the comic becoming valuable then they should buy 20 copies and DESTROY 19 of them. In fact the more that are destroyed the more 'valuable' the remaining ones become. I call this 'forced scarcity' but regretfully it never caught on.
I actually toy with the idea of someday opening a comic shop in the city where I now live which really doesn't have one. Those were good times for me, working in the comic shop. A place where geeks and non-geeks alike could hang out and discuss fun but useless stuff- much like we do here!
I've often thought of opening one as well. I read a pretty good article by Kevin Smith (who I personally can't stand) on the subject of opening your own. Basically said that you need $50-$60,000 MINIMUM to start out.
Also, the industry's move towards redistributing back-issues via other media (Marvel's CD Rom series, for example) is going to further squeeze the local shops. If I were going to do it, I would probably make it some type of combination business...and not baseball cards. Something different.
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I've often thought of opening one as well. I read a pretty good article by Kevin Smith (who I personally can't stand) on the subject of opening your own. Basically said that you need $50-$60,000 MINIMUM to start out.
Also, the industry's move towards redistributing back-issues via other media (Marvel's CD Rom series, for example) is going to further squeeze the local shops. If I were going to do it, I would probably make it some type of combination business...and not baseball cards. Something different.
I've often thought of opening one as well. I read a pretty good article by Kevin Smith (who I personally can't stand) on the subject of opening your own. Basically said that you need $50-$60,000 MINIMUM to start out.
Also, the industry's move towards redistributing back-issues via other media (Marvel's CD Rom series, for example) is going to further squeeze the local shops. If I were going to do it, I would probably make it some type of combination business...and not baseball cards. Something different.
Oh yeah you do need lots of opening capital (maybe not *that* much but it depends on the market you're in. The shop I was with had comics, anime, rpgs, used books, metaphysic books, swords, toys, etc. All crammed into a reasonably small space.
I honestly don't think a shop that specializes in any one of those will do as well as one that diversifies. And regrettfully back issues have been dead since the early 90s really. Its a shame as that's how I found and read some of my all-time favorite stories. And I and many other folks got a charge out of completing an entire run of a title. Then again, thanks to a little thing called .cbr that I discovered because of this thread, I can catch up on some stuff I've missed since 1998. - Time
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BTW, has anyone checked out the new All-Star Series'? I've heard that Superman is fantastic and Batman and Robin...not so hot.
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Telling: three issues out so far... Batman and Dick are still in the Batmobile arguing over whether that is a queer name. FOR THREE FRICKIN' ISSUES. And a total of like an hour has passed since issue one.
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Chaltab- I knew nothing about this series but good lord if its as you describe!!! Horrible!!!
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Vicki Vale: "Somebody murdered his parents. Right before his eyes. Brutally. Brutally. It was brutal. I saw it all...
Caption: Bearing witness.
Vicki Vale: I saw every damn last moment of it. It doesn't make any sense, but I saw it. I saw it. It was brutal. Brutal. It was brutal."
Batman: "What are you, dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am? I'm the goddamn Batman."
I'm going to check it out anyway, just to see how damn psychotic Batman is in this series.
BTW, I got accepted to UNC at Chapel Hill today, so thats one thing less to worry about.