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Collaborative Fanediting: An ROTJ Proposition (BACK ON TRACK WITH EMANSWFAN AT THE HELM--SEE POST 1488 OR OP FOR A LINK!) — Page 38

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We just held vote 2 on items we had discussed in this forum.  It was limited to those who had participated in the discussion between the first and second vote, and is closed at this point and I'm tallying things up, and waiting for a couple of stragglers.  But we will have a third vote soon, and from there we will pretty much finalize the story.  You are definitely invited to take part in the third round of votes and any other decision making processes we go through as long as you remain a consistent participant.

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Darth Ender.... Is there anyway you can capture this audio line and send it to me please.....

"The responsibility is yours, Commander, and you know the price of failure."

as a wav or mp3 if possible I could use that line in an idea

 

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Busy at the moment, but send me a PM to help me remember :)

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Ronster said:

Here's the other clip...

http://www.mediafire.com/?aqavinvcvq6fttv

Please try to remember that it is incomplete and the x-wing on tattooine is missing FX shots and audio samples too... aswell as Yoda needs Dubbing but it is for the purpose of structure I am doing this and trying to convey my ideas is the only way to mock it up... I hope you enjoy this storyboard video

Please give your feedback if you wish also... I am excited for this idea even though it's incomplete.

I didn't like the crystal idea before, but I think it could work your way. I wonder if we could work the crystal into the scene where Luke builds his lightsaber somehow. If not, it might not be so easy for the audience to connect the crystal to the lightsaber. 

The part where Luke flies into Tattooine is cool, but the music is out of place, as is Luke's first line of dialogue to R2. The rest of the beginning is ominous, slow, and dark; all things that the music and Luke's line aren't. Also, while I'm not completely against the idea of Luke flying through Beggar's Canyon, I think if it were to be used, it would need to be shorter than how you have it. I'm still against the idea because I think it would ruin the flow, but I will admit it's really cool and different in a good way.

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Ronster said:

So I had an Idea recently and although I really don't want to have anymore than I have already had and don't want to over do it but Darth_ender inspired me about Vader not being in the executor and then saying the emperor turns up in the eclipse....

Well my suggestion is this Vader stays in the star destroyer escorted by the other 2 (I have good reason for this) after we see Leia / Boush with the thermal detonator in jabbas palace we would cut to a fly-by of the executor orbiting corusant....

We would then see a shot of a lamda shuttle in corusant atmosphere but like the Ralph mcquarrie concept drawings and show how corusant has changed become more opressed and the Emperors Palace from where the shuttle departs.

We would then see the shot from ESB SE of vader leaving bespin but with the planet changed to corusant and the following shot of the shuttle flying to the executor. Obviously this is the emperor although we don't see him until he arrives at DSII

It would then cut back to night and Leia / Boush creeping around Jabbas palace

It's a bit of a Fan-Service clip but It might add a little somthing...

I kinda really like this...

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I'm just thinking it's a pity George has never released the original Star Tours movie footage.  Even if it were silent, it would still be useful.It would be cool to even try incorporating some of the shots used in that movie into our little edit.  I'm sure we could get a few seconds of useful material out of that which could make the edit unique.  This is the closest thing I've seen, and obviously it's worthless for an edit.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CEQQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dr9CWq5JmGOs&ctbm=vid&ei=oAMeT9blKcKciAK-hrHjCw&usg=AFQjCNFKWDOYrE4eEr2wCHl_PP8XYgUkMw&sig2=42BeNq_TA9YW83tZQ-I1ig

EDIT: Having said that, a little research led me to realize that the Star Tours video Return of the Ewok video from preserv.22web.net both might have a decent quality of the video.  I really think there might be a few seconds of material that could expand the space battle a bit.  Like I said, even just a few seconds can go a long way.  Look at ANH:R where Adywan reused some ROTJ footage to great effect (it wasn't that obvious, Ronster ;)   So knowing this makes me excited to have another source to draw upon!

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Just watched the clip, which is the first time I have ever seen it.  Amazing that even in 1986 they can make a trench run that doesn't have a skip between the matte and the model but never fix it in the movies.

 

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Ronster said:

I voted mabey

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1300000/Maeby-arrested-development-1359966-635-352.jpg

Sorry, had to do it.

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Harmy, the second link you provided in Japanese is the best quality version I've seen tonight.  The color sure is awful, but I wonder how fixable certain portions are.  The workprint on Return of the Ewok and the Star Tours documentary are simply unusable.

I must confess, it's always been a slight annoyance that ANH uses the exact same shot of the entrance to the trench.  If Star Tours footage were fixed up, I wonder if it would be usable is somebody's edit (not likely Adywan's considering we'll never get the video quality he's seeking).  Just an interesting thought, as the footage is similar enough to pass as the same trench run, but distinct as well.

As for ROTJ, I think a couple seconds skimming the Death Star surface could be useful.  Perhaps portions of the trench run could serve some other minor plot point, like taking out some shield generator protecting the entrance or something.  I don't know...also the shots of the Star Destroyers, particularly the closeup of the hangar might be worthwhile.

Do the experts know how possible it is to clean up portions of the footage and upscale as much as possible?

Too bad even finding a decent bootleg of Star Tours 2 would bring down the immediate wrath of LFL.  However, I wonder if they'd mind if some borrowing took place from their advertisements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gc349FU9A&feature=related

It even has a shot of the Death Star II.  I wish we were able to see more of that and even make use of it.

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Here's the best quality version of Star Tours 2 I can find with the DSII footage (probably really supposed to be the DSI in construction around Geonosis, for those really thinking that Star Tours contributes to Star Wars continuity, though it looks just like the DSII).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fkcK28fgw4&feature=related

Of course it's in 3D, and it's still a crappy handheld camera.  I don't know if anything is possible with any of this, but it's at least fun to imagine.

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darth_ender said:

Here's the best quality version of Star Tours 2 I can find with the DSII footage (probably really supposed to be the DSI in construction around Geonosis, for those really thinking that Star Tours contributes to Star Wars continuity, though it looks just like the DSII).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fkcK28fgw4&feature=related

Of course it's in 3D, and it's still a crappy handheld camera.  I don't know if anything is possible with any of this, but it's at least fun to imagine.

I had to smile when I noticed the probe droid using the scan beam that I suggested for the door eye at Jabba's palace years ago.

I'm starting to think that maybe the Lucasfilm bods do secretly pop on and read here just as Ady suspects.

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^I truly wouldn't be surprised in the least :)

 

So I'm extracting all the audio for the Interactive board game.  I'll provide it to everyone so people can fiddle around with Vader's lines and decide how some of the lines may be used.

I'm still working on the votes.  Sorry it's taking so long, but I'll have it up today.  Some technical difficulties have resulted in a couple of delays, and I'll have to post one as a latecomer, but I'll have the majority up very soon.

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Alright, I'm done.  A few words of note: I did not tally fishmanlee's music cues.  The reason for this is because most people did not actually listen to them, and simply didn't mark anything, or marked all maybes or all yeses.  I felt it would be an inaccurate representation of people's feelings if I simply went with that.

Here is the file with all the tallies:

 

http://www.4shared.com/office/gYgPZgKC/Vote_2_tally.html

It includes everyone's original votes, plus the tally.  If there are any discrepancies or miscounts, let me know.

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darth_ender said:

Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage.  Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys.  It's just all good fun to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8

Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.

The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....

I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....

Original Star Tours Footage

The coluors are way off but I really like the flight across the death star surface and the bit where the x-wing attacks the hanger bay of the star destroyer and the ties flying at the camera if they can be colour corrected i.e. take the excessive amount of red and green out they might be useable because it is like somone urineated over the footage.

@Dominiccobb... Thanks for the feedback yes definatly cutting it down like I said it's not finished you don't always get what your looking for when you try and come up with stuff so this is what I have tried out so far and I don't have the end bit nailed yet some of that will just get dirched and forgotton about but glad you like the idea

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TV's Frink said:

Ronster said:

I voted mabey

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1300000/Maeby-arrested-development-1359966-635-352.jpg

Sorry, had to do it.

I voted whatever.... Actually

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Ronster said:

darth_ender said:

Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage.  Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys.  It's just all good fun to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8

Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.

The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....

I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....

Obviously.  The point isn't to keep all that stuff.  The point is maybe to keep one or two seconds, minus original audio, of the the flight towards the Death Star, and maybe a second of the flight out of it as well.  However, as you and I both said, it's all in good fun, so if it doesn't work, no biggie.  It does look very obviously CGI in many instances, but the approach towards the Death Star is potentially useful if we don't get to the entrance.

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darth_ender said:

Ronster said:

darth_ender said:

Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage.  Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys.  It's just all good fun to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8

Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.

The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....

I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....

Obviously.  The point isn't to keep all that stuff.  The point is maybe to keep one or two seconds, minus original audio, of the the flight towards the Death Star, and maybe a second of the flight out of it as well.  However, as you and I both said, it's all in good fun, so if it doesn't work, no biggie.  It does look very obviously CGI in many instances, but the approach towards the Death Star is potentially useful if we don't get to the entrance.

Only winding you up....

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So here are the votes with only the tallies for ease.

 

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Ronster said:

darth_ender said:

Ronster said:

darth_ender said:

Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage.  Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys.  It's just all good fun to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8

Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.

The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....

I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....

Obviously.  The point isn't to keep all that stuff.  The point is maybe to keep one or two seconds, minus original audio, of the the flight towards the Death Star, and maybe a second of the flight out of it as well.  However, as you and I both said, it's all in good fun, so if it doesn't work, no biggie.  It does look very obviously CGI in many instances, but the approach towards the Death Star is potentially useful if we don't get to the entrance.

Only winding you up....

Of course it worked.  My question again is whether it is possible to use this stuff or not?  Can the original Star Tours have color correction applied to a few seconds to improve the way it looks?  Can we add our own special effects on top of that?

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darth_ender said:

Ronster said:

darth_ender said:

Ronster said:

darth_ender said:

Actually, this one maybe has some potentially useful footage.  Sorry to be stuck on the same note, guys.  It's just all good fun to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=liCZyhNS7v8

Since these have all been publicly released on television, I think it would be about the same gray area of the law as anything else this site has done.

The old guy in the green shirt on the left fancies the younger guy in the green shirt on the right.... I would not want to use this footage Darth Ender....

I'm sure it's good fun what but really fake bad advertising acting....

Obviously.  The point isn't to keep all that stuff.  The point is maybe to keep one or two seconds, minus original audio, of the the flight towards the Death Star, and maybe a second of the flight out of it as well.  However, as you and I both said, it's all in good fun, so if it doesn't work, no biggie.  It does look very obviously CGI in many instances, but the approach towards the Death Star is potentially useful if we don't get to the entrance.

Only winding you up....

Of course it worked.  My question again is whether it is possible to use this stuff or not?  Can the original Star Tours have color correction applied to a few seconds to improve the way it looks?  Can we add our own special effects on top of that?

I would say yes it can be fixed because you can colour correct different parts individually so I don't see why not but the quality is not the best and there are limitations to what you can do with the source material quality...

The Star tours 2 stuff yes 100% but the original star tours would take work but I think It is do-able... There would be nothing to stop adding elements on-top of this like a cgi model of an x-wing flying at the ties say... Or If you even use some of it as cock-pit shots then you would be down-sizing the footage to the frame of the cockpit and this would improve how it looks also as it would enhance detail a bit. like when you watch a low quality you-tube vid in a window as opposed to full-screen so we can be clever with it and not shrug this off as unusable. Even if you used part of the footage in other footage it may work like mixing 2 image together instead you would be mixing 2 videos together.

so you could use some of that video under the middle section of the medical frigate and set it as a background vid with the frigate as foreground creating a new frame for the video but it would be much smaller

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Nice to spot another fan of the Radio adaptations going by Fishy's title suggestion and his saber construction mock-up.