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Clone Wars (2003 animated series by Genndy Tartakovsky) - general discussion thread

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I realized there is no thread on here dedicated to the discusson of the Clone Wars animated … whatever you call it … series? miniseries? collection of animated shorts? Volumes?

Anyway, it being a fairly cool bit of EU that did the important job of bridging Ep II and III, it certainly involves a thread, now that both volumes are on DVD especially.

I wanted to know if anybody noticed that one of the featured characters belonged to the “Wolf Man” race that Lucas excised from ANH in the SEs. Am I the only one who picked up on that? The fact that this race would be singled out in such a manner perhaps hints to some serious O-OT coolness on the part of Genndy Tartakovsky. But I never saw this mentioned anywhere.

 

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Yes, I noticed that. What about that Jedi in Chapter 20 who looked remarkably like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo?

But, as far as the series goes, I believe that season 3 is the best.
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I came lately into the Clone Wars series but have come to regard it as, in my opinion, the best SW work that has come out since, well, the original films. Every frame seems to scream 'I was created by artists who CARE about this work and this story!'. Makes me wish that the mantle of newer films would have been passed to more creators like that.

Yoda vs. the Invasion has to be flat out the most bad-ass moment of Star Wars-ism in 20 years. THAT is the Yoda I imagined- few words and mighty mind-over-matter Force manipulation. Gave me goosebumps!
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I hate the Clone Wars. Really dull and pathetic. The voice acting and dialogue is awful. the animation is weird and the love stupid scenes between Anakin and padme are just plain creepy.
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Originally posted by: kev
I hate the Clone Wars. Really dull and pathetic. The voice acting and dialogue is awful. the animation is weird and the love stupid scenes between Anakin and padme are just plain creepy.


How can you say that?
I must tell that the first time I've seen a picture of Clone Wars (not an animated sample) I was shocked and very disappointed. At this time, I've had imagined a reallistic design, and instead, I see some kind of weird characters. But when I've seen the first 10 seconds of the 1st chapter, I was... WOW! It's really cool! Great animation! And I've even loved the design... That could seems pretty weird to have changed my mind on that, and I can't explain how. After all, I've had the same reactions about the Simpsons, many years ago. First: "What a weird design! The characters are awfull!"... then: "I love it! And the design is genius!".

All that to say that all you've mentioned can be though before seeing it, but after? I don't get it...
I think you've missed the important fact about Clone Wars: it's a caricature! All in it is exagerated. The jedi can do some things that can never be showned in a movie (Mace Windu against a whole army of Super Battle Droids, Yoda pushing back Trade Fed barges,...). You have to see it as a caricature, but it's serious (I mean it's not a parody).

It's too bad you're seeing like you do... Of course, you have the right to not like it, but I really think that's one of the best EU part that have be done in this new SW era. Just my opinion...

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Originally posted by: kev
I hate the Clone Wars. Really dull and pathetic. The voice acting and dialogue is awful. the animation is weird and the love stupid scenes between Anakin and padme are just plain creepy.


What's the deal with you? You hate everything eccept the OOT. Can't you even try to enjoy something once in a while?
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I dont think much of the cartoons, i found the animation to be quite good, i just found some of the Jedi powers stupid compared to the films, and found the cartoons on the whole a bit boring( and i like animated features) especially Vol 1, as it seemed to just action without much story.

To be fair to Kev i am sure there are many many others and is not only one who hates everything except the O.O.T if thats true.....
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Luke: Leia, do you remember the Clone Wars, the animated Clone Wars.

Leia: Visions, they were on Cartoon Network but I was very young

Luke: I have no memory of the Clone Wars


I noticed that if you are into EU, you are more apt to like the Clone Wars Series. Personally I could never get into them, because I hate when Lucas has to include something interesting that he didn't have time to put in the prequel movies. But he can spend the first hour of TPM developing Jar Jar. It is one more reason why the prequels get my blood boiling when I think about them.

To me, it would have been if Lucas made a cartoon of Luke training on Dagoabah cause he didn't have time to put it in ESB.
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You have to divorce Lucas from Clone Wars (and any EU for that matter). Remember Lucasfilm Ltd is a big corporation. Oh he may have a hand in stamping approval on greenlighting this or that project but I'd imagine that George will approve just about anything that doesn't overtly harm the franchise. That said I think what makes Clone Wars work is, like I mentioned, are the actual CREATORS of the series who had little influence from George and had a love for the source material. George only had a hand in the PT and we all have our opinions of those. I see the PT as mainly a marketing driven entity helmed by not a filmmaker and a creator but by a CEO interested in keeping a cashflow alive. Clone Wars was produced by a bunch of guys in a small studio with action figures all over their desks- people who love what they're doing and would *probably* be doing it even if no one was even to see the finished product.
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Yes, I noticed that. What about that Jedi in Chapter 20 who looked remarkably like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo?


Ha ha! You noticed that too?! I was laughing so hard when I saw it! And then, of all things, that live action Scooby-Doo movie came on next. I just about burst my lungs.


But I'm not a real big fan of the Clone Wars. I just kept watching it thinking "wow, the fact that this is better than the movie...is really depressing." I mean, General Grevous is super bad-ass in the cartoon. Totally awesome. But in the movie, well, I just want to claw my face off whenever he is on screen (I just fast forward the DVD. It makes the movie about half as long when I do that.)
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I don't think I've seen the Clone Wars chapter in question, but I came across the Jedi you're talking about in the Databank yesterday. I threw up in my mouth a little and swallowed it back down. Then I figured, why the hell not? Let's fill Star Wars up with pop culture references and genre in-jokes. It's not like I'm getting my weekly Futurama fix anymore, and there's only so much "modern mythmaking" you can do before you run out of the sublime and there's nothing left to rip off but the ridiculous. I hope we get a big muscular Jedi in furry briefs named Heem'an in the next series. And for a sweeps let's tear down the fourth wall and let Jay Sherman review it.
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The databank even says his name is Sha' Gi.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
The databank even says his name is Sha' Gi.





Oh NO!! Dear God, I honostly believe that it was just a coincidence. I mean, animation is animation. Eventually you are going to make an homage of some sorts with out going over the line, because in animation stuff like that is easily over looked and forgiveable. But now that I know this. Well...that is just too funny. And sad. Yet cute.
At least the director didn't try to make it too obvious. I think that is kinda neat. I mean, he is the director after all. Why not make a small cameo of one of your favorite characters.
Who's to say that I wouldn't do the same? If given the chance I would totally put in The Professor (from the PowerPuff Girls) as a minor background character. Why? Because I can. I won't give him any dialogue or anything, but I would totally put him in a Jedi outfit.
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I half expected him to be from the planet "Zoinks."
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Hey, that could be a posibility.
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
If given the chance I would totally put in The Professor (from the PowerPuff Girls) as a minor background character. Why? Because I can. I won't give him any dialogue or anything, but I would totally put him in a Jedi outfit.


Oh c'mon- next thing you'll tell me that you'd put N'Sync in as Jedi... just because you can. Utter nonsense!

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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
If given the chance I would totally put in The Professor (from the PowerPuff Girls) as a minor background character. Why? Because I can. I won't give him any dialogue or anything, but I would totally put him in a Jedi outfit.


Oh c'mon- next thing you'll tell me that you'd put N'Sync in as Jedi... just because you can. Utter nonsense!



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucas was almost crazy enough to put those guys in AOTC. Thankfully, he didn't.
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Really, is Sha'Gi THAT big of a deal?

Clone Wars Chapter 20 Spoiler...



I mean he's only alive for 3 minutes...
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucas was almost crazy enough to put those guys in AOTC. Thankfully, he didn't.


Actually, he did. I forgot which band member, but one of them tosses Anakin a lightsaber in the arena. I cried.

Originally posted by: Knolly
Really, is Sha'Gi THAT big of a deal?




No, it's not. I don't have a problem with it. It's not like he really WAS the Shaggy character. It was an homage. And that is fine.
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Honest Trailers finally got around to doing a video on this show - almost worth necrobumping this thread for… 😃

‘Honest Trailers | Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003)’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3CxQ-OmLkU (5 mins)

 

 

 
A few decent reviews and info pieces for the oft-overlooked 2003 Clone Wars series, with a couple of articles which persuaded me to give it a re-watch (and am glad I did - it was a blast!):-

 

‘Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars Review’ (2019):-

https://tatooinetimes.com/reviews/tartakovskys-clone-wars-review

 

‘Star Wars Day: The Best ‘Star Wars’ Movie is the One Nobody Talks About’ (2017):-

https://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/star-wars-clone-wars-genndy-tartakovsky-1201812614

 

‘Why Genndy Tartakovsky’s CLONE WARS is still the best Star Wars anything EVER!’ (2019):-

https://www.comicsbeat.com/genndy-tartakovsky-clone-wars

 

‘Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars Is Low-Key the Best Star Wars TV Series’ (2020):-

https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-clone-wars-2003-low-key-best-tv-series

 

'Why Genndy Tartakovsky’s ‘Clone Wars’ Has the Best Action in All of Star Wars’ (2020):-

https://collider.com/why-clone-wars-genndy-tartakovsky-has-the-best-star-wars-action/#jedi-myth

 

‘Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars Remains Great’ (2020):-

https://www.farfarawaynews.com/2020/02/14/genndy-tartakovskys-clone-wars-remains-great

 

‘Star Wars on TV: The Original Clone Wars - The greatest modern Star Wars adventure? Yep’ (2008):-

https://www.ign.com/articles/2008/10/02/star-wars-on-tv-the-original-clone-wars

 

‘Why Genndy Tartakovsky’s Star Wars: Clone Wars Isn’t Canon’ (2019):-

https://screenrant.com/genndy-tartakovsky-star-wars-clone-war-not-canon

 

‘Star Wars needs to acknowledge Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars once and for all’ (2020):-

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-wars-clone-wars-genndy-tartakovsky-canon

 

'STAR WARS: CLONE WARS and the Failure of the Expanded Universe’ (2019):-

https://davidmdaut.com/2019/01/06/star-wars-clone-wars - as part of his superb ‘The Chronological Star Wars’ reappraisals

 

DavidMDaut’s Recreating the TV Edits of the 2003 Clone Wars Series (HD) preservation project thread (2018)

 

 

Some good old fashioned animated Star Wars fun - turn the brain off (or switch to ‘low power’ mode), sit back, relax and experience a much under-rated series - that was unfortunately just too short… (unless you watch it as a 130 minute film; which is also a great watch too! And ‘canon’ be damned!)

 

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I can’t get into this series. Each episode is just 5 minutes of non stop action with barely any story. I also don’t think the animation style really works for Star Wars. I much prefer the cgi clone wars.

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Hokk gazette!

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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Didn’t know what you were saying at first, then the memory hit me like a freight train.