Clive Revil — Page 2

Author: battlewars
Time: 16-Nov-2005 2:45 PM
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i just think this scene is wierd because wouldnt sidious be worried that vader and luke could supplant him? if i were the darth sidious of the prequels, creative mastermind, or whatever, i would send someone else after luke

Author: Number20
Time: 16-Nov-2005 3:16 PM
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I think there is several things going on in this scene. Sidious has grown so arrogant that perhaps he thinks he should have two apprentices. This is the view I've had from childhood. (Stupid prequels for introducing the rule of two thing) The other is that Sidious is playing Luke and Vader off each other. Sort of a test for the two of them. The survivor gets to be the apprentice. He is just after the most powerful one, whoever it may be. Of course, this brings up the question, why replace Vader, who Sidious had powerful control over, with Luke, who he has almost none?

Author: battlewars
Time: 16-Nov-2005 3:24 PM
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it doesnt make sense like all the plot holes that were created because of the prequels.

Author: sybeman
Time: 16-Nov-2005 5:51 PM
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You're right, too. When it was just the three films, you could make your own reasons for why things happened, and couldn't be told you were wrong. Now, GL has told us why things happened, but makes even less sense than we did.

Author: Yoda Is Your Father
Time: 17-Nov-2005 5:34 AM
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My main beef with the change is the fact that the new ESB Emperor looks no more like the ROTJ Emperor than the original ESB Emperor did. My secondary Beef is the crappy new dialogue, followed closely by Ian's below-par performance. If Lucas is so obsessed with continuity, why didn't he take the time to make The new Emperor match the ROTJ Emperor?

War does not make one great.

Author: Nanner Split
Time: 17-Nov-2005 8:27 AM
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Maybe because he intends to go back and change.......the.........ROTJ emperor......?

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Sweet Mother of God...........

Author: Adamwankenobi
Time: 17-Nov-2005 8:38 AM
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Have the editors determined yet whether or not the footage of Clive from the Wal-Mart bonus DVD is usuable for a fan edit?

Author: skyjedi2005
Time: 17-Nov-2005 8:49 AM
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that release was full screen and the quality is crap on that walmart disc I have it, worse than the vhs tapes I have for star wars.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

Author: Yoda Is Your Father
Time: 17-Nov-2005 9:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Maybe because he intends to go back and change.......the.........ROTJ emperor......?

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Sweet Mother of God...........

God help us.

War does not make one great.

Author: Adamwankenobi
Time: 17-Nov-2005 2:16 PM
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
that release was full screen and the quality is crap on that walmart disc I have it, worse than the vhs tapes I have for star wars.

Yeah, but I've heard of some of the editors here superimposing fullscreen over the part of the wisescreen that they wish. ocpmovie did used technique when recreating the original Jabba scene with that Irish guy as Jabba.

Author: Commander Courage
Time: 17-Nov-2005 2:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
that release was full screen and the quality is crap on that walmart disc I have it, worse than the vhs tapes I have for star wars.

It won't work and here's why: There's nowhere close to the full scene on the disc, and in the small section that is there the dialogue is not in sync with the visuals. This is a common practice on this disc to make the story as short as possible.