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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released) — Page 11

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Yes!

Depending on the quality of the ROTJ Classic Edition, I may or may not take a stab at editing it. (Or use parts of it for my custom edit even)

Return of the Jedi is very tricky and aggrivating to edit, I've tried restoring it totally to the OOT and it's no walk in the park. Good luck on it, this is the one I want to see the most!

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Where can I find these covers, and hopefully, the disc labels, as well?...They're fantastic!!

Thanks,
Bob.
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the covers and disc art are posted above on this page by Coov.
hope this helps you out
DJ
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It prompted me to get off my lazy butt, and actually SEARCH in here for them!....Thanks for the push...)

Bob.
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Very cool images!
I'm tellin you, asoon as I can, I'm going to buy this set from ocmovie.
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For those who missed it in the other thread.



Chicago Tribune

`Star Wars' fans seek long, long ago edition

By Joshua Klein
Special to the Tribune

A little more than a year ago, millions of "Star Wars" fans finally got their wish granted with the release of the original "Star Wars" trilogy--"Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi"--on DVD. A vocal minority, however, merely grumbled, since what was sold was not the original trilogy at all but the so-called "special editions," released theatrically in 1997 with added scenes, new special effects and, some might argue, inferior results.

The real original trilogy--which is to say, the versions many fans grew up with--were nowhere to be found.

Short of a change of heart on creator George Lucas' part, the original "Star Wars" films are unlikely to ever appear on DVD, and needless to say, a few weeks before the DVD release of the final "Star Wars" installment "Revenge of the Sith," many fans remain frustrated.

"Look at the DVDs that are out now," says Garrett Gilchrist of Carlsbad, Calif., a 24-year-old film school grad responsible for "Deleted Magic," a remarkable compendium of seldom-seen deleted scenes, alternate takes and outtakes from the first "Star Wars." "They're not getting any respect anymore. These are classic movies that should be preserved, like `Bridge Over the River Kwai' or `Seven Samurai.' Not to get too pretentious about it, but these films should be given a bit of respect so that everyone can enjoy them, not force you to overlook how bad the release actually is."

To that end, some fans have repeatedly attempted to re-create and reconstruct--with home computers, professional software and various releases of Lucas' sci-fi epics, as well as plenty of time and money--their own versions of the director's sci-fi epics. Gilchrist's "Classic Edition" combines elements from the 2004 DVDs and the '93 laserdisc. His close approximation of 1977's "Star Wars" goes so far as to digitally paint out distracting special effects, correct real and perceived errors discovered on the official 2004 DVD versions and feature professional-looking DVD menus. Gilchrist even edited together his own commentary track. He calls his "Classic Edition" the "original" version of "Star Wars," "not the way it was, but the way you remember it." That's keeping in line with Lucas' stated views on film restoration.

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them," said Lucas, referring to the colorization movement.

That quote is the first thing you see at www.originaltrilogy.com, where fans commiserate over changes Lucas made to their favorite films as well as discuss, attempt and trade remedies. There's also a petition addressed to Lucas.

"Obviously, all the chain-rattling one person on the Internet can do is about as effective as the world's smallest violin," says Justin Bielawa of Connecticut, a Web site regular and friend of Gilchrist. "The question is now what can we do to get him to change his mind."

These homemade "preservations" provide to the unsatisfied (and perhaps unsatisfiable) the next best thing. Yet the proliferation of so many different versions of the films, from Lucas' own to the dozens of bootlegs and ambitious re-creations, shows that a solution may now be impossible.

"I don't know if that'd be possible, due to the many sources of the original trilogy and how differently each person tackles their preservation project," says Rid Hughes of Gloucestershire, England, who has worked diligently on his own laserdisc to DVD transfers of a universally embraced DVD edition. "Everyone has their own idea on how it should look, and they're all different."

Hughes' version of the first "Star Wars" was made from three different laserdisc sources: the U.S. Definitive Collection, the French THX collection and the German THX collection. It's cost him more than 200 British pounds (about $350), "utilizing parts of all three versions to combine them into something I'm happy with."

Ben Payton of Great Falls, Mont., who has embarked with four friends on what he calls the "X0 Project," is a freelance Web designer whose "Star Wars" obsessions drew him to the pricey Pioneer HLD-X0 laserdisc player in hopes of preserving the best possible image.

"It is perhaps the best laserdisc player ever made, and still demands a hefty asking price on eBay--$2,800 last time I checked," he says. "We have centered our preservation around using this player, and the early results are about the best we've ever seen in an LD-to-computer transfer."

"I have had a lot of fun doing what I'm doing, and someday might even like to do something like this for a living," adds Payton, who is serving in the military. "I'd say even if by some miracle Lucas decides to release the original `Original Trilogy' right in the middle of our project, I think I'd still finish it, just to see how well it stacks up to the real thing."

Gilchrist, who recently completed a version of "The Empire Strikes Back" and is pondering attempting "Return of the Jedi", stresses that as angry as fans sometimes seem, this is largely a fun exercise. He also points our that until Lucas makes the original trilogy available again, in its original form, he sees no harm being done.

"The `Classic Edition' was about revisiting a movie that doesn't exist anymore," Gilchrist says. "The movie you're creating is the movie you grew up with, and the movie you want to see again. It gets harder and harder to watch ["Star Wars"] the way Lucas has it now . . . .He's interested in what he can do now, but we're not as interested. And if these films are being ruined, and [his versions are] all that's coming out, then that's no fun."

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OCP, congrats on the press article and completion of the project ! I can honestly say this looks like the ESB I've been waiting for since I was a kid...Does anyone know if this release is reaching NG or torrent circles anytime soon ?
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OMG---it's already up on NG ! Looks like Xmas came early this year!
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if NG means newsgroups then it was uploaded last week.
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"OMG---it's already up on NG ! Looks like Xmas came early this year!"

I guess we have fans everywhere...

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Yeah, I might have been a bit late to the party since it only got on newzbin yesterday. Sorry if I brought up old news!
(pun intended)
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Heck, i must have missed any Post announcement, but i was looking in the alt.binaries.starwars,
and was happy to see both discs. Havent had time to do much, but briefly check them out, but
they do look fantastic. Thanks a' plenty to OCP for spending the time to make such creative
items.!!!

Win
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Originally posted by: Coov
SHEESH!!! I better get these out before a riot hits...


wood disk
deleted disk
deleted2 disk
esb styleA disk


you are the master! ...but one request. could you make those disc labels without the center hole? and also the picture on the disc label could be square instead of round. i´m having hard time with printing the label on a verbatim wide printable media. there is always a thin white stripe somewhere on the center rim. printer in use is canon ip4000 and i know that it doesn´t print to 119mm - verbatim media has the printing area from 119mm to 21mm. so there is always a white line on the outer rim, but the center bugs me. not a biggy but....

info about the media if someone is interested in can be found here.
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wood disk : I always love how Luke is grabbing Leia's ass in that pic!

(It kinda gives this link a whole new name. )

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Just wanted to give everyone my take on this release..... Impressive... Most impressive!! I finally sat down and watched the whole thing yesterday morning. If you're going to watch a 2004 derivation, this is THE ONE! Ocpmovie's skill in editing is obvious to anyone who's watched any of his releases, especially Deleted Magic and SW Classic Edition. ESB CE is no different. In fact, I think it's better than SW CE. It really is seamless and a pure joy to watch. I'm honored that I was able to help with some source material for this project. Ocpmovie, if you need anything for ROTJ CE, you know who to contact. Bravo! I also enjoyed your short films. Thanks!

You can go about your business. Move along, move along.

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ocpmovie's edits are so good, it is hard to believe he does'nt work for a major hollywood film studio. If george ever intended to release the original, original versions star wars trilogy he would be right at home at lucasfilms, in a perfect world.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Nice work but why would you not fix Vader's bubblegum lightsaber? I hate the 2004 version....it just looks BAD.

Lot of shots in ROTJ also look very bad (both Luke's and Vader's sabers).
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
ocpmovie's edits are so good, it is hard to believe he does'nt work for a major hollywood film studio. If george ever intended to release the original, original versions star wars trilogy he would be right at home at lucasfilms, in a perfect world.


Agreed. I got my copy of ESB:Classic Edition and started watching it. Great job! Now I'm patiently waiting for Return of the Jedi Classic Edition. Keep up the good work!
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I did fix Vader's lightsaber.


The color of his saber in the entire Classic Edition is very different from his color on the 2004 DVDs. If it looks "bubblegum" in my release to you than I suppose the original release will also look "bubblegum" to you. To my eyes it generally looks a pretty good red.



I haven't touched ROTJ. But it's something I might well do.
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with what a great job you did with a new hope and empire strikes back ocpmovie, you should be thanked not criticized, two thumbs up man.

P.S. I am eagerly awaiting what results you do with return of the jedi since it is my favorite of the original trilogy. There are way too many jedi bashers out there, of course it does'nt come close to empire but so don't hundreds of others films.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Thank you for a great job Ocpmovie with Star Wars, Empire and also Deleted Magic really enjoyed all of them,


I also hope that one day a ROTJ will be available to complete the Trilogy
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I originally started a few weeks ago looking on eBay for the OT since the new RotS dvd was coming out. I happen to run across an entry by Rik (Blaksvn) mentioning that the boots were just rips of fanwork online. A simple email to him has brought me a wealth of knowledge (and lost bandwidth ) catching up with so many of you. I love the work on the Classic Editions and just snagged Deleted Magic (very nice of what I have watched so far). And I am very thankful to all of those fans who have been at this for so long now. My own collection now enjoys the Cowclops v.2 version, the Wookie Groomer split-screen version, the OCPMovie version, and three of the Rowman supplemental discs so far with more to come (ADM's DL edits of 1-6 and a good OT SE version).

Gratzie for all the effort.
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opcmovie,

I just sent you an e-mail. I can't wait to have a copy of ESB: CE in my collection. Keep up the good work, man!