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Totally agree. Just because a group is oppressed in the past doesn't make it right to turn the tables today. Which is what I believe is happening and it needs to be stoped. I totally believe that society todays gives women and minority groups more rights. For example Affermative Action. Thats got to be the worst idea I have heard in while. The fact that Bush feels the same way about affermative action is one of the main reasons I support them. That doesn't mean I hate black people. I just don't want them to have more opportunity then a white guy like me. I am for equality. Everyone should have equal opportunity to succeed. Thats just my view. Im not someone who think womens bodies are everything. Though it is the most important factor.
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Also the bits does not post fanboy rumors. There rumor mill is industry speculation. If they say its confirmed is confirmed. I trust the bits.


jimbo would you take a class in reading... omg im sick of correcting your replies...

and i still believe man have some rights better than woman....
who do you think recieves a better pay in the workplace?

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Im not someone who think womens bodies are everything. Though it is the most important factor.


jimbo knows how to pick up the ladies...
especially with remarks like that...
lol

your gonna be practicing abstinence for a long time....
unless.... well ill just stop there...
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Originally posted by: Luke30
Does anyone know what changes (at lease for right now) are being made for the star wars trilogy on dvd?

As others have mentioned, nothing has been confirmed aside from the re-mastered sound. What changes we have heard about are merely rumor, despite what jimbo says. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Hayden thing turned out to be a hoax. It makes no sense, even in George's dilluted world.

I have a short clip of what is alleged to be the new Han/Greedo scene. I think it's legit. So I believe this change, at least, to be real.

Greedo shoots first? Not in my DVD player.
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Obi-Wan Spicoli Do you have a clip of the alleged to be the new Han/Greedo scene if you do can you post it?
Kenneth Kraly Jr.
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Yeah, I've got it. I'll post it shortly.
Greedo shoots first? Not in my DVD player.
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The Hayden thing sucks but it is real. The bits has confirmed it. The bits know what they are talking about. I have never heard the bits ever confirm something and then it turn out to false. They pride themselves on being legidement and wouldn't go stating it like a fact if they weren't sure. Also Luke Im not an idiot and I wouldn't never state this to a women I liked. Most individuels on this site seem to be guys to I can write it hear. Like Al Bundy said "Its only cheating if you get caught"
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Women should not be allowed to drive.

Find me any man who has been cut off, flipped off, or run over to disagree with me.
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My take on anything from digitalbits or aintitcool is that it's a wonderful advertisement for whichever DVD mentioned (right or wrong) . This is THE most anticipated DVD release ever. Period. People are getting excited and are sparking these fires of news bits and supposed changes. Personally, you cannot change the Sebatian Shaw scenes unless you do both. Lucas being a continuity freak has to know this. The nonsense about a jedi's soul just doesn't sound right (and if it is, I'll buy four more bootleg DVD sets).

Even though the digitalbits.com has the info, Lucasfilm hasn't said a thing. I know that the digitalbits is pretty reliable, but anyone here will agree with me...if there's a release they are shooting in the dark about in terms of news, it's this one. Lucasfilm is too busy restoring these classics to be meddling with stuff like that or confirming/debunking every rumor. The big set Lucas wants to do after Episode III will probably have all these changes (or variations of them). This release is for the public because we want it so bad. The SE's took about two years to make, and changes on the scale of the Hayden and Emperor thing were in them. The DVD's were announced in early 2004, so they couldn't have been working on them for too long before that. The time tables work in favor of the release being nearly unchanged. It's all speculation though until Lucasfilm says a word. I could be completely off my rocker and they've done even more than people think. If anyone has a time machine I'd use it because that's the only way we could ever know for sure hehe

Anyway, enough rambling on my part, I anxiously awat the 9/21 release date and finding out 100% for sure what was changed (or a nice press release from Lucasfilm in a few weeks going over the changes...that'd let me know how guilty I'd feel when buying the set).
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In other words lucasflim has'nt said anything offical yet so unless we here a press release before 9/21 nothing is being changed at the monment. People who are worrieing should'nt be because lucasflim has'nt said a thing yet.
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Originally posted by: Count Dushku
Women should not be allowed to drive.

Find me any man who has been cut off, flipped off, or run over to disagree with me.


Actually my mother's a far better driver than my father. Though he has improved since he became a bus driver.


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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Though he has improved since he became a bus driver.

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Also Luke Im not an idiot and I wouldn't never state this to a women I liked. Most individuels on this site seem to be guys to I can write it hear. Like Al Bundy said "Its only cheating if you get caught"


well said...
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker

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Im not someone who think womens bodies are everything. Though it is the most important factor.


jimbo knows how to pick up the ladies...
especially with remarks like that...
lol

your gonna be practicing abstinence for a long time....
unless.... well ill just stop there...


What? Unless what? Unless he practices some hard, furious sodomy? Awww did I say that out loud, geez, I always do that...
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And back to the original topic...

I won't leave this up for very long so get it while you can. Han vs. Greedo 3.0 (561KB)
Greedo shoots first? Not in my DVD player.
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Originally posted by: Obi-Wan Spicoli
And back to the original topic...

I won't leave this up for very long so get it while you can. Han vs. Greedo 3.0 (561KB)


Well, it certainly looks much better than in the 1997 Special Editions, even though Han shooting first would still be better.

This clip looks a bit different than the one I posted some time back (the one at ugo.com), so they probably changed it around since then. But now with the way they've changed it, it really looks like they filmed it that way.

Also, with the way it is, it now looks more like Greedo fired a warning shot and Han took that opportunity to blow his head off, rather than Greedo missing and Han shooting in self defense. So it's definitely better, although as I said, Han shooting first would be still be better.
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I agree that it looks better, but better looking crap is still crap as far as I'm concerned.

What clip at ugo.com are you talking about? Do you mean the april fools joke with the fake commentaries? Those clips were straight out of the Special Edition.
Greedo shoots first? Not in my DVD player.
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That's a vast improvement over the 97 version. I still like Han shooting first, but this looks...well not acceptable...but livable.
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Originally posted by: Obi-Wan Spicoli
What clip at ugo.com are you talking about? Do you mean the april fools joke with the fake commentaries? Those clips were straight out of the Special Edition.


Yes, those are the ones I was referring to. I know the others are from the SEs, but is the Han/Greedo one from them, too? It definitely looked different than the SE version to me, but I could be wrong.
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Well it does certenly look better than the special edtion from 1997. But I wish han whould shoot first again. Is this from the dvd of star wars (aka A New Hope)?
Kenneth Kraly Jr.
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It's still shite.

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Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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Upside: You'd think it was an alternate take from '77

Downside: You'd still think it was silly.
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It's still shite.

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
It's still shite.


Exactly. I never paid much attention to the scene before recently, but now it annoys the hell out of me. I saw this clip a couple of months ago, and I'm still wondering why they thought that making Han making a dainty little hop in his seat would change the fact that the current concept is full of crap, or shite, as Gundark so elegantly put it.

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What? Unless what? Unless he practices some hard, furious sodomy? Awww did I say that out loud, geez, I always do that...

LOL!!
i knew someone would have finished my sentence...
hehe glad it was you...

im with you guys though...
i would pick that over the SE version...
but i will still pick my bootlegs of han shooting first over this any day of the week....
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Actually, while it's better than before(Han's head says on his shouders), it looks to me like Greedo misfired, as his gun goes off before he's done raising it. I guess that could be chalked up to a warning shot or stupidity. I, too, don't get the "Solo hop" as well.


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