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SilverWook said:

Samsung’s departure is being overblown. It’s a crowded market, and they’re better known for their tv sets anyway.

Not everyone can stream to their heart’s content even if they wanted to. Conversation I had with the phone company guy installing my new DSL said it would take an act of Congress to get high speed fiber optic cables installed in areas like where I live. Physical media isn’t going anywhere.

Wake me when they stop making Compact Discs. 😉

And as I understand it, Sony’s, Panasonic’s, Pioneer’s, etc. repossess to Oppo’s and Samsung’s exit from the market was to step up their game.

Also worth noting that Samsung didn’t just quit 4K, they quit optical media players outright. So it looks more of a shift to focus on TV sets than a statement about any particular format.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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SilverWook said:

Samsung’s departure is being overblown. It’s a crowded market, and they’re better known for their tv sets anyway.

Not everyone can stream to their heart’s content even if they wanted to. Conversation I had with the phone company guy installing my new DSL said it would take an act of Congress to get high speed fiber optic cables installed in areas like where I live. Physical media isn’t going anywhere.

Wake me when they stop making Compact Discs. 😉

I really hope you’re right. I too am an old fashioned physical media kind of guy. However, I do realize that most people these days watch movies and TV shows on streaming services and on digital. Plus, many people have made a solid argument that physical media takes up space in their homes. The same can be said for video games too. Most people are now purchasing new games on their consoles than going out to a store like GameStop to buy the game. My brother now buys new releases on his PlayStation 4 these days. Personally, I have more faith in physical media than I do in digital devices, because I feel that just one accidental click can remove all my content.

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Or one on purpose from the publisher? They can’t erase your hard drive, at least not yet.

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SilverWook said:

Or one on purpose from the publisher? They can’t erase your hard drive, at least not yet.

That’s true, but I think we went too far off topic from what this thread is about. Ultimately, I can’t wait to see the Episode IX title and trailer on Friday. I’ll be watching the live stream of the panel on YouTube this Friday.

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I’m disappointed Ralph Brown isn’t appearing for the 20th anniversary of TPM. 😦

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SilverWook said:

I’m disappointed Ralph Brown isn’t appearing for the 20th anniversary of TPM. 😦

You catch on pretty quick! 😉

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Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

All of the Star Trek shows and movies were up on CBS All Access from the get-go IIRC.

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Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

All of the Star Trek shows and movies were up on CBS All Access from the get-go IIRC.

I’m sure all the films will be added to Disney Plus once it launches.

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nl0428 said:

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

All of the Star Trek shows and movies were up on CBS All Access from the get-go IIRC.

I’m sure all the films will be added to Disney Plus once it launches.

Which begs the question of whether the OT will finally be from the newer 4k master or if it will be the now ancient 2004 Lowry master yet again. I don’t know if there’s been talk yet about Disney+ having any 4k content, but the Lowry’s are stuck in 1080p.

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Fang Zei said:

nl0428 said:

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

All of the Star Trek shows and movies were up on CBS All Access from the get-go IIRC.

I’m sure all the films will be added to Disney Plus once it launches.

Which begs the question of whether the OT will finally be from the newer 4k master or if it will be the now ancient 2004 Lowry master yet again. I don’t know if there’s been talk yet about Disney+ having any 4k content, but the Lowry’s are stuck in 1080p.

I’m sorry, but what does “Lowry” mean? I’ve never heard of it. Does this mean the re-color timed DVD and Blu-ray masters?

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nl0428 said:

Fang Zei said:

nl0428 said:

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

All of the Star Trek shows and movies were up on CBS All Access from the get-go IIRC.

I’m sure all the films will be added to Disney Plus once it launches.

Which begs the question of whether the OT will finally be from the newer 4k master or if it will be the now ancient 2004 Lowry master yet again. I don’t know if there’s been talk yet about Disney+ having any 4k content, but the Lowry’s are stuck in 1080p.

I’m sorry, but what does “Lowry” mean? I’ve never heard of it. Does this mean the re-color timed DVD and Blu-ray masters?

Yes.

Lowry Digital did the HD cleanup of the OT in 2004 working with 2k scans of the original camera negative (which has been conformed to the SE ever since 1997). The resulting HD master (not 2048 by 858 2k but 1920 by 817 HD, the Lowry guys actually specified this in 2004) was used for the 2004 dvd, the hd broadcasts, the 2011 bd and the 2015 digital release. It was already starting to look outdated in 2011 and it’s ridiculously outdated now.

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Fang Zei said:

nl0428 said:

Fang Zei said:

nl0428 said:

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

All of the Star Trek shows and movies were up on CBS All Access from the get-go IIRC.

I’m sure all the films will be added to Disney Plus once it launches.

Which begs the question of whether the OT will finally be from the newer 4k master or if it will be the now ancient 2004 Lowry master yet again. I don’t know if there’s been talk yet about Disney+ having any 4k content, but the Lowry’s are stuck in 1080p.

I’m sorry, but what does “Lowry” mean? I’ve never heard of it. Does this mean the re-color timed DVD and Blu-ray masters?

Yes.

Lowry Digital did the HD cleanup of the OT in 2004 working with 2k scans of the original camera negative (which has been conformed to the SE ever since 1997). The resulting HD master (not 2048 by 858 2k but 1920 by 817 HD, the Lowry guys actually specified this in 2004) was used for the 2004 dvd, the hd broadcasts, the 2011 bd and the 2015 digital release. It was already starting to look outdated in 2011 and it’s ridiculously outdated now.

Yeah, you’re right. If the original trilogy does get a 4K Blu-ray release this year, it will end up being the Special Editions, but it would be great if Disney and Lucasfilm remastered the trilogy and color corrected them to match their theatrical looks.

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Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

Ironically, the rights are still tied up - Disney did a TV deal with TNT/TBS that is supposed to last through 2024 I think.

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Is there anyone here in this thread who is going to Celebration this weekend? I will unfortunately not be attending.

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DominicCobb said:

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

Ironically, the rights are still tied up - Disney did a TV deal with TNT/TBS that is supposed to last through 2024 I think.

Seems about the same as the length of the old SpikeTv deal. Of course there were only six movies then. Were TLJ and IX part of the current deal?

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SilverWook said:

DominicCobb said:

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

Ironically, the rights are still tied up - Disney did a TV deal with TNT/TBS that is supposed to last through 2024 I think.

Seems about the same as the length of the old SpikeTv deal. Of course there were only six movies then. Were TLJ and IX part of the current deal?

Unclear I think. I’d guess no for IX at least.

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The TBS/TNT deal might just be for broadcast rights, though.

IX will definitely show up on Disney+ first, probably by the middle of next year after the blu-ray’s been out a couple months, but won’t show up on tbs/tnt until the end of 2021 at the earliest. Yeah, you can also watch them online, but that’s technically going through your cable provider first since I don’t think you can get those channels without a cable subscription of some sort.

For purposes of legality, “streaming” is considered something entirely different from the tnt/tbs deal.

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Fang Zei said:

The TBS/TNT deal might just be for broadcast rights, though.

IX will definitely show up on Disney+ first, probably by the middle of next year after the blu-ray’s been out a couple months, but won’t show up on tbs/tnt until the end of 2021 at the earliest. Yeah, you can also watch them online, but that’s technically going through your cable provider first since I don’t think you can get those channels without a cable subscription of some sort.

For purposes of legality, “streaming” is considered something entirely different from the tnt/tbs deal.

Source? From what’s been reported it seems like “streaming” falls under “TV”: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/disney-is-said-to-seek-star-wars-rights-back-from-tbs-tnt

Has RO played on TNT/TBS?

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Seen RO on TNT a couple times in the past few months.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

TLJ, Solo, RO, and TFA have all been on Netflix at one point or another.

The only Star Wars content on Netflix are The Clone Wars (both the movie and show), The Last Jedi and Rogue One. They’re going to be leaving Netflix very soon since Disney+ is launching this Fall.

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nl0428 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

TLJ, Solo, RO, and TFA have all been on Netflix at one point or another.

The only Star Wars content on Netflix are The Clone Wars (both the movie and show), The Last Jedi and Rogue One. They’re going to be leaving Netflix very soon since Disney+ is launching this Fall.

Just saying it is not necessarily true that they can’t be on streaming and cable simultaneously.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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nl0428 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

TLJ, Solo, RO, and TFA have all been on Netflix at one point or another.

The only Star Wars content on Netflix are The Clone Wars (both the movie and show), The Last Jedi and Rogue One. They’re going to be leaving Netflix very soon since Disney+ is launching this Fall.

Didn’t TCW recently get removed?

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ChainsawAsh said:

nl0428 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

TLJ, Solo, RO, and TFA have all been on Netflix at one point or another.

The only Star Wars content on Netflix are The Clone Wars (both the movie and show), The Last Jedi and Rogue One. They’re going to be leaving Netflix very soon since Disney+ is launching this Fall.

Didn’t TCW recently get removed?

I believe so.

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