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Cash cow-abanga shit, another SW OT dvd repackaging for the holidays! Luca$$$

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Star Wars Trilogy: Collector’s Tin Edition - £39.99 RRP – Limited in quantity to 30,000 copies, the 4-Disc Star Wars Trilogy is packaged in a specially created and embossed tin for this release.

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/protectedimage.php?image=CoverArt/starwarstrilogy_r2tin.jpg_25102007

Sorry if this is old news or a repost. Nothing new, as usual, just the same old shitty discs from 2004 I think. Like the member bassbar on dvdtimes so perfectly put it: 'a new holiday season, a new star wars boxset................' They didn't even take the time to come up with a new cover, they just used the 04 edition and made it tin bwhahaha...pathetic.

Fuckin' cash cow-abanga shit! :/

Source: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=66197
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That's nice.

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Wasn't this available from Best Buy when they were released with the GOUT discs?
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For a "limited edition," I've sure seen a lot of copies of the GOUT around the stores.

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Originally posted by: kmcherry
Wasn't this available from Best Buy when they were released with the GOUT discs?


It looks like the same one to me. I guess it was limited during the time frame they specified last year. So it'll be limited again to this holiday season. And the next...and the next...
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Hmm..guys, this isn't a GOUT release, it's the 2004 release (special special edition? lol) put into a tin box instead of the carton one we got back then. It even has the same cover as the 2004 release...I don't think it's the best buy cover you're all talking about (I'm not american, so I'm not sure though, but I thought that tin box only came with the GOUT films).

Just check the link I provided in the original post and you'll see what I'm talking about, if you haven't already, heh.

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This sounds like a way to get rid of any extra SE disks they have in stock, and if they repackage them in a new case, the completists out there will eat them up.

I see the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles is being released on DVD this fall for the Christmas Season, as I think Lucas is taking a break with any new SW release to pump up interest in Indy IV. That means Indy IV & the new Indy Boxset will come to DVD next fall, so I am starting to believe the rumored boxset may not come til 2009. Think about it, Lucas puts out one new release every year on DVD:

TPM - 2001
AOTC - 2002
Indy Boxset - 2003
OT/SE - 2004
ROTS - 2005
GOUT - 2006
Young Indy Chronicles - 2007
Indy IV - 2008

Sorry guys, but even though it is not confirmed they will ever remaster the OOT, we may have to wait till the HD/BluRay format war is ended to see something new from SW. IMO
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Originally posted by: CO
This sounds like a way to get rid of any extra SE disks they have in stock, and if they repackage them in a new case, the completists out there will eat them up.

I see the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles is being released on DVD this fall for the Christmas Season, as I think Lucas is taking a break with any new SW release to pump up interest in Indy IV. That means Indy IV & the new Indy Boxset will come to DVD next fall, so I am starting to believe the rumored boxset may not come til 2009. Think about it, Lucas puts out one new release every year on DVD:

TPM - 2001
AOTC - 2002
Indy Boxset - 2003
OT/SE - 2004
ROTS - 2005
GOUT - 2006
Young Indy Chronicles - 2007
Indy IV - 2008

Sorry guys, but even though it is not confirmed they will ever remaster the OOT, we may have to wait till the HD/BluRay format war is ended to see something new from SW. IMO


I think another issue is that how many copies of Star Wars does the average person want? I mean, you have the the '04 release, the '05 re-release without bonus disc, then the GOUT with non-remastered laserdisc rip OOT. Most people who wanted Star Wars has it by now. I'd be suprised if the completist-collector's market has enough to make another release profitable. So Lucasfilm might be waiting for the format war to end, and the winning format to get into a certain number of homes for the new release with new bonus features, etc.
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Perhaps the format war will give them plenty of time to remaster the original trilogy... HA!
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I think we can at least hope to see the OOT remastered in the hi-def release, whenever that happens. Lucas only got away with the GOUT because everyone watching it on a 4:3 tv can't tell the difference. If he tries to pull the same stunt on the hi-def release, everyone will notice. He has less of an excuse now than ever, with Close Encounters and Blade Runner right around the corner and the Kubrick remasters on the shelves now (ok, Eyes Wide Shut isn't the theater version, but then again the theater version was the version with digitally added people so there ya go). As for the format war affecting this, I feel inclined to point out that the earliest home video releases of the OT were on both vhs and betamax. Yes, I know Lucasfilm has already said they're supporting BRD and we'll probably only see Star Wars on that format anyway since it's 20th Century Fox, but have you thought of what's going to happen with Indy IV? Spielberg is of course exempt from Paramount's hddvd exclusivity, but I'm wondering if that means he can choose not to release Indy IV on hddvd at all. If it doesn't, that means we'll see it on all three formats next fall and maybe it'll end up being the same for Star Wars whenever that gets released. People are saying that the gap between the rival formats is still too close to call. The fact that Lucasfilm took any stance on the format war says to me that we will see Star Wars on BRD eventually if not on both formats. If he released it sooner rather than later, releasing it on both formats would be a bit pointless since it would only widen the confrontation while going with only one format - especially if the release included a remastered OOT - would crush the format war with one swift stroke. If he waits any longer then he might as well just sit back and wait until the format war is over, but that could be more time than even he is willing to wait, not to mention the fans. Ultimately it boils down to how many people have hi-def players in the first place. Lucas might have to wait a while before he'll even have enough people able to even play the hi-def release to justify releasing it.
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What is so bothersome about the format wars, and the holding out by Lucas/Spielberg of many of their movies during the early days of DVD is that it never used to be like that with VHS & Laserdisk.

What holds these formats back from really taking off is great titles, and the reason you bought a VCR in the 80's was because the OT was one of the first movies out there. The reason you would buy a Laserdisk Player was because you could get the OT in widescreen. Now it seems like you have to wait for these formats to mature to the masses, THEN we will see the big titles.

Just think if SW, Jaws, Indiana Jones, LOTR, Back to the Future were all out right now on one universal HD format, I would be Best Buy right now and saying bye-bye to DVD, but why would I want to even venture into a new format with two competing products, and only a handful of 'A' titles?
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CO, the Star Wars movies weren't released on vhs/beta or laserdisc until several years into those formats' lifetimes. I wasn't around back then so I'll ask the question. Was there really next to nothing on those formats beforehand, as in no 'A' titles at all?
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I can't give a specific time to when VHS/Beta/Laserdisk exactly came on the market, but I do remember most of my friends families bought their first VCR between 1983-1985, so The Original SW came out on the market in 1982 in all 3 formats, so it is definitely earlier then the SW DVD's or future BluRay HD-DVD's
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Release Format: VHS, Betamax

Release Date: May 1982

Studio: 20th Century Fox Video

Technical Comments: This is the first official video transfer of the film, presented in 1.33:1 pan and scan. The audio is the theatrical stereo mix presented in two-channel stereo (mono compatible). It has been brought to my attention that an alternate version of this initial release may also exist, this one featuring a mono-only audio track. Mind you, this is not the theatrical mono mix. Rather, a mono-only presentation of the stereo mix. The theatrical mono mix has never been released on video. If anyone has any more information on this alternate mono release (and a scan of the box cover), please let me know. For more info on the three audio mixes created for the theatrical release of "Star Wars," please click here.

Comments: This first home video release was meant for rental only. Despite that, it could be purchased for its retail price of approximately $120

Other Comments: Comes in a plastic case with "Video Rental Library" stickered labels on the front, back and spine

What You Didn't Know: Despite popular belief, this was not the only transfer made of Star Wars. At some point, a second fullscreen video transfer was created from a 16mm flat print source. Since an anamorphic (2.35:1) 35mm print had been reduced down to a flat (1.33:1) 16mm print, this 16mm source featured different pan & scan decisions made during the print reduction. One main difference in this transfer was that Luke's macrobinocular POV shot of the Banthas was squeezed to actually show the Tusken Raider walking to the side of the frame. This video transfer was only shown on HBO and was never offered for sale or rent [ Special Thanks to David C. Fein ]





Release Format: RCA CED

Release Date: 1982

Studio: 20th Century Fox Video & CBS/FOX

Technical Comments: 1.33:1 pan and scan transfer with Linear Stereo Audio (Mono Compatible)

Comments: One CED disc (Cat# 1130-90). Released first under the 20th Century Fox Video logo and then under the rarer CBS/FOX

Other Comments: The film is time-compressed at 118 min. to fit the 120 min. CED limit





Release Format: VHS, Betamax

Release Date: September 1982

Studio: 20th Century Fox Video

Technical Comments: 1.33:1 pan and scan transfer with Linear Stereo Audio (Mono Compatible)

Comments: Relabeled for consumer sale (although retail was still around $120) Click here for the announcement scanned from the September 1982 copy of "Video Review" magazine

Other Comments: Comes with a side-opening "drawer" slipcase





Release Format: Laserdisc

Release Date: September 1982

Studio: 20th Century Fox Video

Technical Comments: 1.33:1 pan and scan transfer (same as VHS) with CX-encoded Analog Stereo Sound

Comments: One Extended-Play CLV disc (Cat# 1130-80)

Other Comments: The film is time-compressed at 118 min. to fit the 120 min. CLV limit



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Originally posted by: CO
What is so bothersome about the format wars, and the holding out by Lucas/Spielberg of many of their movies during the early days of DVD is that it never used to be like that with VHS & Laserdisk.

What holds these formats back from really taking off is great titles, and the reason you bought a VCR in the 80's was because the OT was one of the first movies out there. The reason you would buy a Laserdisk Player was because you could get the OT in widescreen. Now it seems like you have to wait for these formats to mature to the masses, THEN we will see the big titles.

Just think if SW, Jaws, Indiana Jones, LOTR, Back to the Future were all out right now on one universal HD format, I would be Best Buy right now and saying bye-bye to DVD, but why would I want to even venture into a new format with two competing products, and only a handful of 'A' titles?


Blame the media companies for starting the war, not the studios. All those movies would be out right now on one universal HD format (well, maybe SW excepted ) if the hi-def media companies had actually worked together and created a single standard. Instead we got two and low consumer adoption because no one wants to get stuck with a dead format.
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Exactly. I believe it was really Toshiba and Microsoft--the makers of HD-DVD--who refused to collaborate, since there was a big push to combine the two formats into a singular format that would then be shared by the two sets of corporations--but corporate greed won out because why share half the profits when you could potentially have them all. The absolutely near-sightedness of this, the stupid thought that having two formats would somehow actually stimulate the marketplace instead of dividing it, is actually thought to be a deliberate act of deceit on the part of Mircosoft to create the format war and open a window for the direct-download market which it is creating to thrive. Well it worked! Thats fine for microsoft, but for all the other companies that backed that decision and don't stand to benefit I have to wonder what the hell were they thinking? Because honestly, even though they would share half the profit, that profit would be more than double today's sales because everyone would be buying.

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The photo I'm seeing in the first post doesn't look like the Best Buy tin I bought. The one I have has the color poster art with Luke holding the blaster.

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Yes, you mean the 2006 release with the OOT in crappy quality as bonus discs. This looks like a tin box version of the 2004 release. I wonder if the back of the tin box looks like this:
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Originally posted by: Mielr
The photo I'm seeing in the first post doesn't look like the Best Buy tin I bought. The one I have has the color poster art with Luke holding the blaster.


Yes, since that was the OOT they used vintage poster art. This one uses the 2004 SSE art, which I am taking as meaning it is another 2004 re-pressing (since it is 4 disk, this is really all it could be). I'm surprised that they are still selling these things given all the technical errors. Are they ever going to fix those or is this seriously how Star Wars is going to look forever simply because Lucas wasn't paying attention when he approved the transfer (which is exactly the case--he supervised the new color correction and approved it)

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Originally posted by: gethedgical
Perhaps the format war will give them plenty of time to remaster the original trilogy... HA!


Yeah. Right.

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Originally posted by: zombie84
I'm surprised that they are still selling these things given all the technical errors. Are they ever going to fix those or is this seriously how Star Wars is going to look forever simply because Lucas wasn't paying attention when he approved the transfer (which is exactly the case--he supervised the new color correction and approved it)


What "technical errors"? Don't you mean "deliberate artistic choices"? They're never going to fix something that they won't even admit is flawed.